Ion-X RIPPING it up on 5s1p Duralite EVO 20 Testing

[rfaster]

Well I'll pick up 2- 3700's and set my timer to 5 MIN and see how it goes. I'd be willing to pay the TP price if I could get 8 to 10 but will probably wait to see the results of Charlie's new packs.

[WillJames]

You will get an easy 9 minutes on the pro lite 8000's now. You pay the price in weight of the heli. With the Pro Lite 8000's you are looking at roughly 11.5 pounds. If you want I can sent you a set of well used Tanic 8880's to try on the machine a few flights once you get your 5s1p's just so you can see the difference between a 10# Ion and a 12# one.

**Edit - Sorry but the Tanic's finally sold, so I will not have them to send.

[rfaster]

That would be great - I hope to have the ION-X in the air by next weekend.

You wil lget an easy 9 minutes on teh pro lite 8000's now. You pay the price in weight of the heli. With the Pro Lite 8000's yoau relooking at over 11.5 pounds. If you want I can sent you a set of well used Tanic 8880's to try on the machine a few flights once you get your 5s1p's just so you can see the difference between a 10# Ion and a 12# one.

[BobbySmith]

Any body wanting Evo packs PM me here on the freak as Iam a Dealer now

[Helicrasher]

Thanks :D

I'll just wait for the MXR :cool:

Mario

[rfaster]

Bobby - Thanks - I just ordered 4 3600's

[skippy]

Not sure where everyone is getting the 11.5 pounds with TP-8000 but it's more like 11.00 pounds or less. The picture below is taken with the TP-8000 packs.

[WillJames]

Mine was actually 11.38 pounds looking at my old notes, sold the Pro Lites a few months ago, I am running an onboard RX Li-Po and a Duralite Regulator. With the Tanic 8880's the machine weighs 12.4 on the same notes You have a very light machine there flying the 8000's Scott. I bet it flys GREAT!! You going to IRCHA this year?

[skippy]

I do use the UBEC and that could account for some of the weight loss. I should be at IRCHA this year, make sure you stop in for a few beers. Will you be bringing the RV?

[WillJames]

Ahhh I bet mine weigh more to because I run the Stratus style flybar carrier and some heavy canopies with alot of paint on them at the time I weighed them.

I will be staying at the field but probably not bring my trailer, but you can bet by evening I will be ready for a beer with you. Looking forward to seeing you and Ron again!!

[rfaster]

Are "we" still as excited about the Evo 20 3700's as "we" were when this thread started? Sorry for going back on topic :lol:

[WillJames]

Not sure if "we" are or not... I know I am. ;)

Since I started the topic, I can have just a little leeway right? :D This is friends talking to friends, sorry. :hug:

[BobbySmith]

Yup they are still looking good!!

[rfaster]

Lol - :-)

Well I'll add my data set shortly... I plan to fly very mild "sport flying" - and hope to get the solid 5 to perhaps 6-7.

[epc2]

Yup they are still looking good!!

With better ones on the way :mrgreen:

epc2.

[rfaster]

Yeah - I figure that is the way it will always be. Charlie from TP posted that the new 6S2P's will have 50% more power than the prolites and 2X the cycles! Would imagine this would make an incredible 12S configuration for the Ion-X.

[BobbySmith]

Yup alot of good stuff going on in the Eworld!! :smokin: :smokin:

[rfaster]

Well so far so good on the Evo 20 3700 NF's... I'm still only at 3 to 4 cycles per set and keeping the flights at 5 minutes. I'd like to max cycle's -what's a safe amount to take out of these each flight?

[misskimo]

should be a rocking year at IRCHA ,

Tony 5 mins sound good to me , but I couldnt get but 4 min out of mine , 420 second with the TP 4400s , I think its the esc letting the motor get ALL it power from the batteries with a 100 95 100 vcurve

[WillJames]

WOW!!

Got home from IRCHA early this morning then went and flew today. The Flight Power 4350's are coming on, they ROCKED on the Ion-X with my borrowed 40.160 from Tony!!

I flew 4 flights this morning before going to work. 1 flights on the FP 4350 and 3700 and 2 flights on the TP 4600's. I am now starting to prefer the lighter feel of the Ion-X with the 3700 FP packs, and power wise the FP packs seem a little stronger during the first minute or so, then they are almost identical until the 3 to 5 minute mark with the 3700's and the 6.5 minute mark with the 4350's. The TP 4600's seem to hold the initial POP and SPANK for a little longer than the EVO's but not completely sure as I don't have enough flights on either brand to really tell. I am also trying a 40.160 for the first time, so that is a lot different than teh 77-O as well.

Dontcha just LOVE the new pack technology!!! THis is the year for electric machine to really make their move we now have more choices than ever.

Man I LOVE this Ion-X, my 4350's and 4600's seem to be getting HOT HOT HOT!!! I think I prefer the lighter packs to the heavier 4600's now both produce GREAT power. .35 pounds does not seem like much, but flying is different. WOW!! Downside of the 4350 EVO's is they are to fat for the Ion Canopy and can cause it to crack at the top seam near the swash plate, you may want to strengthen that area a little if you run them. Also, the frames of the MXR Razor need to be spread to run the EVO 4350's. The size and shape of the 4600's is PERFECT for the Ion and Razor.

[rfaster]

Will - how are your 3700's holding up over time - and how many minutes are you getting out of these? I'm thinking about picking up a few more sets but torn between going with some more 37's - or steping up to 43's.

[misskimo]

Will , that esc is your last one ever , he he , its hungry for the power , I sure like them , also a side note for you to try , a 5 point Vcurve , shallow in the middle and steap near the ends , 100 96 90 96 100 , since you dont have a gov on that esc , what you will see is a more consistent headspeed , like the HV video I posted of Bert flying the Ion , evcept I had a 100 95 87.5 95 100 , the 95 went up sharply to 100 at low and high 90% on the travel
also , 15% added ail and elev to throttle mix
here picture of mine from the video

[WillJames]

Get the 4350's faster, you will have to spread the battery tray on the MXR which is easily done, but if you fly Eric's Tango setup which Clint is flying now, you should get 7-8 minutes out of it easy. I am still testing the 3700's got some of the NF on the way to try. I have been through 2 sets of the 3700 old forumlation flying them on the Ion and over doing it with them. If you are very careful they will work, but the 4350's should give you a good bit better lifetime of the packs and also a little longer flying time if you are careful with them as well.

I am running straight line curves Tony as I don't want to strip my main gear or crown gear with the V-Curve. Even a shallow V IMHO is a lot harder on the geartrain and since I have over 220 flights on my Ion without any mechanical issues even with HC, Clint, Botos etc flying it, I am sticking with what I have found that works for me and is easiest on the machine. I appreciate the info though, I know there are many ways to run the curves, but for me, straight line is it.

I am still tweaking the setup, belive it or not, the power so far with the Schulze does not feel as strong as the Hacker 77-O I replaced with it. I am now going to try to run my Throttle ATV's to maximum which is 135 on the 14MZ and see if it makes any difference. May get to test fly today, but right now it is raining. :DOH I will definitely report back as soon as I get to fly.

[misskimo]

Will , it wont strip a gear , look at most of the hot starts the hacker has done , if its around 20% , and soft start disingagesand raps up now , it just spins the heli about 180 , and makes your butt pucker :shock:

[WillJames]

I have found straight line curves work for me especially on the more efficient ESC's and with the power setup I am running.

I have never had a hot start with a Hacker ESC, I found them to be very good actually lasting a long time and easy to program witht he box.

I really appreciate your advice, but I have to keep it simple and use what I have figured out works for me so murphey does not take over. :arggg: