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sookainian
03-11-2006, 05:29 AM
anyway know how to set up the 14mz so it will work nicely on my G3, i m onyl 15 years old =( i dont know anything. can someone help me ?
DavidH
03-11-2006, 08:35 AM
Your going to need to change the modulation from PCM to PPM to get the 14MZ to work with G3. Then you will be able to set it up. G3 will not recognize the radio if the modulation is set to PCM.
David
R-4-L
03-11-2006, 09:04 AM
i didn't know 14mz has the same square plug as the 9z/9c ,, good move by futaba.
sookainian
03-11-2006, 11:38 AM
yes, i did that, i change it to PPM, but i not sure on setting the stick all that, or can someone send me their 14mz set up ? then i can copy and past into my radio :?:
vitek
03-11-2006, 01:58 PM
It depends on how you want to use the transmitter. If you just want to use it for the sticks, you should not have to change much in the radio. You will probably want to start out with a default model in the 14MZ. You can use the Controller | Channel Mapping dialog in G3 to change the mapping between channels on the radio and those in the simulator.
If you want to use the radio programming in the 14MZ, you will want to make an edited version of each of the helicopters you want to use. You'll want to change the Radio Type parameter to Pass Through in the Aircraft Editor. You'll also need to do the channel mapping as mentioned above. Then any programming you want will need to be done in the radio.
Travis
sookainian
03-11-2006, 02:46 PM
nope, i dont understand is this part, my when i connect my 14 mz,
On my radio i set:
-PPM mode
-Swash type, pure function
On my G3 Channel Mapping
-channel 1 , throttle
-channel 2 , yaw
-channel 4 , roll
-channel 5 , pitch
But when i move my throttle stick, it control both channel 1 and 6. So how to disable the channel 6, so my radio will not control both channel ?
sookainian
03-11-2006, 02:50 PM
the next thing i dont know is, how to make my radio Switch-E ( idel up ) so that it will work on my G3 ? when i switch all the switch, there is like no respon on the Channel mapping, for channel 3, 6, 7, 8. I tried moving everything, but only channel 1, 2, 4, 5 will move ( which is my throttle, aliron, ele, all those ). The rest dont move.
So how to program so that my switch can control channel 3 ? or the other not moving channel
furycham
03-11-2006, 03:02 PM
The best thing you can do is get close to someone who already owns one so he might help you, or download one of Ericīs programs, it could be a good start on your settings.
:D
sookainian
03-11-2006, 03:09 PM
haha, i am only the few kid in singapore owning a 14mz =.=' very hard to get people i know.
Anyway i figure it out alredy !!!! i didnt know i have to go into the Function page in my radio to do the settings =)
thanks you guys for helpping
O.. yar, next thing, how do i set up Idel up ? should i set it in my radio ? or go into G3 menual to set it ?
sookainian
03-11-2006, 03:25 PM
how do i go to the pitch curve page n throttle curve page on G3 ?
Rada70
03-12-2006, 07:11 PM
Go to Aircraft, then go to Edit you will see all the modification you can make
vitek
03-12-2006, 11:27 PM
RealFlight G3 can only detect signals that come out of your radio. If you don't have any of your switches hooked up to output channels, RealFlight will never know you flipped a switch.
If you want the idle up switch to control the governor speed.. You need to first setup the 14mz to output a signal for the switch. I've used a 14mz a little bit, but I can't recall how to do it off the top of my head. You'll know you've got it setup correctly when you look at the servo monitor screen on the 14mz and a channel [other than throttle] moves when you move the idle up switch.
Then you need to use the channel mapping dialog to map the switch to channel 8 in RealFlight. That channel controls the governor RPM selection.
When you move the throttle stick on a helicopter radio, two channels [usually 1 and 6 on Futabas] should move. Channel 1 is usually throttle and 6 is collective pitch.
Travis
vitek
03-12-2006, 11:28 PM
Is there a reason you aren't just using the interlink controller?
sookainian
03-13-2006, 12:08 AM
i dont really like the interlink controller, coz i cant make the control stick to my liking. when i open it up, the only thing i can do is to change from mode 1 to mode 2. beside that, there is nothing i can do. etc, making the spring softer, the stick can be lower then the 14mz stick.
ok thanks guys, tonight when i got from, i will try to set it. :noteworthy
scriber
10-02-2006, 11:28 PM
Sorry to bring back from the grave but does anyone have a guide on how to set this up.
I changed the channel mapping in G3 but can't get the elevator to work, I am only left with dual rates.
I'd also like to set the idle up switches and throttle hold.
vitek
10-03-2006, 12:44 PM
You would need to map the channels correctly for your 14mz, and it should all work. If you just want to use the default models, then channel order in G3 for helicopters is...
aileron
elevator
throttle
rudder
dual rates
pitch
throttle hold
governor rpm
You would need to map a dual-rate switch to channel 5, hold switch to channel 7 and the idle up switch to channel 8. That should get everything working. If you edit the models and change the setup to pass through, the channel mapping is slightly different.
aileron
elevator
throttle
rudder
pitch
governor rpm
If you edit the models and change the radio type parameter to pass through, you would need to map the idle up switch to channel 7.
I have no idea why it was done this way. I would expect the channel mappings to be the same for both configurations, but it is not. I guess it doesn't really matter very much because it should only take a few seconds to figure out what is going on, but it may be confusing to those who don't understand what is being done behind the scenes.
scriber
10-03-2006, 01:24 PM
Still confused...am I making these changes in G3 or on the transmitter?
rkeith2
10-03-2006, 04:35 PM
I mapped mine per 14MZ standards =
Throttle
Rudder
Gyro
Ail
Ele
Pit
scriber
10-03-2006, 06:16 PM
I mapped mine per 14MZ standards =
Throttle
Rudder
Gyro
Ail
Ele
Pit
I tried that also but the only thing left for channel 5 is dual rates. There isn't an elevator selection as an option.
vitek
10-04-2006, 12:07 PM
am I making these changes in G3 or on the transmitter
The switch assignment has to be done in your transmitter. I expected that you'd make the other changes in the transmitter also. Truth is it doesn't really matter which order you map the channels, as long as they are mapped the same in both places.
Also, in the RealFlight G3 Channel Mapping dialog, the elevator control is called pitch [as in roll, pitch, yaw]. The collective pitch channel is called Knob.
scriber
10-04-2006, 02:36 PM
am I making these changes in G3 or on the transmitter
The switch assignment has to be done in your transmitter. I expected that you'd make the other changes in the transmitter also. Truth is it doesn't really matter which order you map the channels, as long as they are mapped the same in both places.
Also, in the RealFlight G3 Channel Mapping dialog, the elevator control is called pitch [as in roll, pitch, yaw]. The collective pitch channel is called Knob.
Will mapping the channels on the transmitter affect the other models I have setup on the 14mz? I want to be sure, I will before I try it tonight. Thanks.