How to outfit a Fury Extreme 90

[marked23]

I won a Fury Extreme 90 in a fun-fly raffle last week. :D :D :D :D :!:

I'm a beginner and I still haven't done any forward flight with my Hawk Sport... and now this.

So since I still have to learn to fly (before I risk the Fury), I have plenty of time to make decisions and order just the right parts for this new bird.

I think I've decided on OS .91 SX-H C-Spec w/Pump as the engine. Good?

I'm a JR user so I'll probably buy a whole new JR flight pack. I'll use an 8700G on the tail, but I don't know what servos I should use on the swash. Ideas?

I have no idea what blades to pick... Or even the size. Local 30 size flyers like the Maverrick Pro blades. Are these still good in the 700~720 size? What is good (brand and size) for a beginner like me?

Thanks,

-Mark

[Russ McC]

Hi Mark?

Is this the Fury won at the Try City FF in Richland WA last weekend? Congratulations!!! I was there flying one of the Ion-Xs.

You will be happy with either the YS or OS 91s. OS use 8.18 to 1 with a Curtis MP2. YS use an MP2 on 8.18 or 8.45 to1 or an SB-16 on 8.45 to 1.

No 8700G!! You need a Futaba 601/9251. No won including JR has any gyros that consistently come close to the 601. You also need a Futaba GV-1 governor.

Blades, SAB 710 Best, BBT 710 and MAH are also very good. Tail blades, NHP 105s.

This is a professional grade heli and you can enjoy it very much when built, maintained and operated correctly. This is not for beginners! Pleas weight tell you can comfortably and confidently transition to forward flight and back with your small model before trying the Fury or any other 60/90 size model or have help with a buddy cord. The 60/90 can do considerably more damage to you or your friends then the 30 :)

[marked23]

Is this the Fury won at the Try City FF in Richland WA

Yes, that was me. I feel both very lucky and a little guilty for being the newb who won this top-class heli.

This model has the 8.18 gear... Good. I wanted an OS anyway.

No 8700G!! You need a Futaba 601/9251. No won including JR has any gyros that consistently come close to the 601. You also need a Futaba GV-1 governor.

I hadn't thought about the gyro. I'm using a JRG500T in my Hawk right now. The rumor I've heard is that this one-piece gyro is the best one by JR so far. If I can get-away with using a one-piece gyro, I probably will. However, I will certainly take a look at the 601 before I decide. My skills aren't there yet to be able to notice the difference at this point.

How does the Futaba GV-1 compare to the Throttle Jockey?

This is not for beginners! Pleas weight tell you can comfortably and confidently transition to forward flight and back with your small model before trying the Fury or any other 60/90 size model or have help with a buddy cord. The 60/90 can do considerably more damage to you or your friends then the 30 :)

I'm a member of the Cascade Model Heli Club. They keep a watchful eye over me. :) I'm definitely going to learn to control my Hawk first.

-Mark

[Russ McC]

No need to feel guilty, I prefer to see some one newer win those nice heli raffles; it can give the new pilot a great deal of inspiration/motivation to continue on in the hobby.

By the time you are able to fly this thing safely you will still be learning and improving your flying skills at a fairly fast rate, this is the point where you would benefit the most from the best equipment, the easer it is to handle the model the easer it will be for you to improve, No big deal if you want or need to use the JR gyro but the 601 works much better and at the point you will be at when flying the Fury you will be able to tell the difference.

I have no experience with the Throttle Jockey, it sounds good and I have heard many good things about its performance, I also herd that the TJ Pro had an option where it would ignite the glow plug if the engine RPM drops below a specified point, sounds kind of cool :)

[Marcus Kim]

Get the 8311 servos. Their real good, and if you can get the metal gears their tough as nails, havent stripped a servo yet after 2 appointments with the ground. That 500 gyro and 8700 servos holds real well, better than a 401, but its not a 601. Run 710 blades i like mah. Also get a good set of batteries for the reciever.

[fitenfyr]

Mark,
Congrats!

I was in your shoes (sort of) last summer.
I won my Extreme at the Brooks fun fly. :D

Listen to Russ. The Fury works best on the combination he described.
My Furby is running 9252's;
don't put anything less than GOOD digitals in there. The setup headaches are not worth the few dollars saved
GV-1;
I used the Throttle Jockey in my Sceadu. Works good, but I think the GV-1 holds better and on the Fury that is important. Overspeeding is SCAREY! :oops:
GY601;
.Just plain works. It is so plug and play that I wouldn't consider any other Gyro in the future. The Tail on the Fury is the one thing I don't take for granted. If it lets go (gyro or gearbox issues) it will be a wild ride especially if you are not 100% up to snuff on your autos.

I like the 710 V's I am running. VERY nice blades, but all the ones mentioned are good to go.
Todd B mentioned at Tri-Cities last year some bad tendencies with the Mavrikk blades. Never tried them myself as I figured I have a 2K heli no sense messing around with inexpensive blades. Get the good ones that are known to work and work well. :D

Other than that you are on the road. Crash..er I mean learn on that Hawk and take your time with the Fury.
Keith and the gang up there will keep you in line. :D

See ya in a few weeks in Oregon I hope. :D

[marked23]

I took a look at all the usual servo suspects.
Here they are:

Swash Servos:
FU S9254 .08 sec 47oz 109.99
JR DS8417 .10 sec 82oz 114.95
FU S9250 .11 sec 76oz 99.99
FU S9451 .13 sec 97oz 79.99
FU S9252 .14 sec 92oz 79.99
JR DS8311 .18 sec 130oz 99.99

Tail Servos:
FU S9251 .07 sec 51oz 119.99
JR 8700G .09 sec 49oz 129.99
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It seems that the FU S9451 is the big winner on price/performance for the swashplate. Even being a JR loyalist, I may actually consider using those.

The tail servos are a closer race. If I end up picking the Futabas for the swash, I might as well pick the FU S9251 too.

The throttle will simply get another of whatever goes on the swashplate.

If I trim off the key on the connector, I can use the Futaba servos with a JR s-PCM RX right?

-Mark

[Marcus Kim]

Futaba does work with jr receivers. I think the 9251 is suppose to be used specifically with the 601, i'm not totally sure though. There also is the new 9254 that is quick, i think i remember it being .06. You might as well get a 601 with 9251.
Enjoy your fury.

[fitenfyr]

Mark,
Well Futaba has a new servo coming out to replace the 9252 for heli applications, but that one is the tried and true for the CCPM ships.
Centers best and holds well especially for the price.
I have not heard of anyone using the 9451 on the cyclic.
The concern you will have with CCPM is centering. IF the servo doesn't do that well you will have all kinds of problems with it flying well.

[Russ McC]

Hi Mark,

I think Jason is trying to say to use 9252s and not the 9451s on the cyclic. He is probably right, I don’t know the specific application the 9451 is rated for but if it is not specifically rated for helis I would avoid it. I tried a set of servos on cyclic a wile back that where not specified for this application but there specs looked great on paper, well there is a lot more to it then specs on paper, it did not work out to well. Maybe the 9451 is ok, maybe some one can shed some light on its specified use, but we know the 9252 is very good in this application; it has a long track record of great performance and reliability. So unless some one can give us some history on the 9451 then go with the 9252s you will like them. If you like JR servos I cant tell you what to use, all the JR guys around hear are using 9252s. :)

[Andrew Shimabuku]

9251 is specifically for the gy601, it will not even function if you try to plug it directly into your receiver.

9252s are the way to go for futaba digital servos on the fury, you just can't go wrong wtih them.

-andrew

[fitenfyr]

Thanks Russ. That is exactly what I was saying.

The 8411's are being used in CCPM ships. I know of one pilot that is using them on a P-Max (or at least was) and they seem to be working well, but that set is not being 3D'd hard.

[vitek]

Just an FYI...

The JR 8411s are not recommended for helicopter use. There have been numerous documented problems with them in helicopters. That is why JR/Horizon was exchanging/replacing the 8411 with the 8411SA, which has been superseded by the 8311.

http://horizon.hobbyshopnow.com/products/description.asp?Prod=JRPS8411

Travis