Feature Request

[WillJames]

Make this machine work with the newer HS-65 Servos??? Please.

[DebianDog]

I think they will have to!

[Gary O]

With the 56's getting harder and harder to find he's probably going to either make new delrin parts to fit or some type of shim kit. Either way, it seems something will have to be done to keep them going.

[Rotorworkz]

Make this machine work with the newer HS-65 Servos??? Please.

They are in the re-design phase hope to have some by the end of the week :D

Charley

[SteveK]

Kind of a catch 22 right now with these servos. If you have the 56's you can get gears but new servos are being phased out. If you put in the 65's you need spacers but right now the gearsets for the 65's are not yet in the US in quantity. If you screw up a 65 right now you either have to get a new servo or put a 56 in it's place for awhile.

According to the HiTech forum over at RCGroups, the gearsets do not interchange.

I guess spacers would be the necessary item to have.

[WillJames]

Steve you are 100% right. I just had to replace a 65 in my TREX because we stripped a gearset a couple of days ago but nobody that I order from has the gearsets in stock. The 65's seem to have a LOT less slop than the S-75's and a decent amount less than the 56's I was running. They seem tougher as well as only one of them stripped instead of the usual all 3 when the TREX met the earth at speed a couple days ago.

[SteveL]

Where did you'll here they were doing away with the 56s?

I can't have nuthin!

I have a crap load of 56s (usually because I had to buy new ones when I could not find gear kits and a certain ditch ate my trex)
:arggg:

[WillJames]

OK just talked to Bill at Mac's.

He said the 56's ARE still being made as far as he knows, but they are not carrying them anymore because everybody wants the 65's because they are cheaper and have a lot better specs.

Hitec announces a new Micro class servo, the HS-65HB has long lasting and durable Karbonite gears and are Hitec’s most powerful servo’s in the micro class, with over 31oz/in of power at 6 volts. The HS-65HB was created for higher performance micro helicopters, electric park flyers, & 1/18 scale cars, and features a top ball-bearing for long life and positive centering
Motor Type : 3 Pole Neodynium magnet
Bearing Type : Top Ball Bearing
English Metric
Torque 4.8/6.0v: 25 / 31 oz 1.8 / 2.2 kg.
Speed 4.8/6.0v : 0.14 / 0.11 second
Size : .9"x .5"x .9" 24 x 12 x 24mm
Weight : .39oz.
11.2 g

Now the 56 Specs
The Hitec HS-56HB continues the Hitec tradition of affordable performance. Featuring our new revolutionary "Karbonite" gear train. Karbonite is four times stronger than our standard white nylon gears and even after hundreds of thousands of cycles it will not show any signs of wear. Combine that with precision components that have been engineered to provide long lasting trouble free service making the HS-56HB hard to beat!

Not only is it the perfect choice for any micro application from indoor R/C and hand launch gliders, to ultra small electric Park and Yard flyers, but it can handle the duties of larger electric 3D aerobatic aicraft as well. Mount it upright or flat; either mounting style is accepted with its unique case design. The new HS-56HB sets a new standard for heavy duty ultra micro servos.

Applications: Light weight models to 2lbs


Connector : Universal
33056S

Where To Buy


Motor Type : 3 Pole Ferrite
Bearing Type : Top Ball Bearing


English Metric
Torque 4.8/6.0v : 14 / 17 oz 1.0 / 1.2 kg.
Speed 4.8/6.0v : 0.12 / 0.10 second
Size : .9"x .5"x .9" 23 x 12 x 24mm
Weight : 0.37 oz.
10.7 g.

[Gary O]

I don't understand why these makers come out with servos that are similar to another in the same line. They make it just different enough that you have to modify something to use it and it just seems counter productive to me. Why make another servo when the 56 is doing just fine.

[WillJames]

65
Torque 4.8/6.0v: 25 / 31 oz 1.8 / 2.2 kg.
Speed 4.8/6.0v : 0.14 / 0.11 second

56
Torque 4.8/6.0v : 14 / 17 oz 1.0 / 1.2 kg
Speed 4.8/6.0v : 0.12 / 0.10 second

[SteveL]

I had 1 65 that made it a flight and a half on my tail. Luckily I was checking my blade tracking when it let go.

[Rotorworkz]

Well.............

After a couple hours on the CAD it looks like not only will a new mount be required but also upper side frames

example.

The green squares represent HS56's in their stock location on your current mounts

On the "outmount" picture the back corner of the servo hits the angled portion of the frame this mount choice is the best as it only requires the upper frame panels to be changed

On the "Inmount" picture look at circle 1 moving it in almost 3/16" causes the servo arm to hit the frame. Circle 2 shows the need to modify the servo to install it so my thoughts this way won't work.

Maybe Im just not seeing an easier or better way but Im open for opinions :?:

Charley

[Gary O]

If the 56's are not going to be dis-continued, why change anything? We already know the set up works with the 56's anyway. If they are not going to be available anymore, which is what I was told, then that's a different story. Changing it for the sake of running a newer servo doesn't seem cost effective. Keeping it as simple as possible is what's nice.

[SteveL]

I am with Gary.
Did I mention I still have a buch of 56s :lol:

[eheliflyer]

I agree. Until there is an official notice from Hitec saying the 56s are being discountinued it is not worth the headache of making new servo mounts. The 56s work perfectly.

[WayneBrown]

Ya know I had a thought.. the blue part looked familiar and it just dawned on me.. the adapter from 45 records was shaped like that..
damn I'm getting old..
frigging kids with ipods and Cd's.. I still have 78's and 45's laying around..
:D
I'll crawl back under my rock now... Me and my Nut Bra..

[CHOPPER D]

Has anyone gotten the 65's to work yet? I would like to know before i have to go buy some 56's to fit the frame as i have 65's in my heli now.

[Rotorworkz]

As of right now the HS65 project is on hold as it requires new upper frame panels and according to the sales manager of Hitec USA the HS56 is not going anywhere :noteworthy
Currently the problem with HS65's is if you crash and strip a gear set well you have to buy a new $25.00 servo and if the crash is bad enough that could be $75.00 worth of servos as they do not have replacement gear sets(yet) like the HS56 which is around $4.50 a set

[WillJames]

Yes... I have 5 HS-65's here with stripped gearsets. :arggg:

[TerryBelanger]

I'll personally stick with the 65's and just wait for you guys to produce a frame or adapter to fit those servos.

[eheliflyer]

Make this machine work with the newer HS-65 Servos??? Please.

Please do. I am sick of replacing those brittle karbonite gears. I want to use the HS-56 MG.