Anybody Try Align 600mm or 425mm blades

[Markeydoo]

I just got my 550 togeather and I know that the enevatable crask is on the horizon. I checked a few hobby shops and no one carries 500mm blades. Has anyone tried 600mm from an Align 600 or 425mm from there 500?
Just looking for options
Thanks
Mark

[bobbybe]

hmm i'm not an expert because i've never tried either, but i do know that some people have flown as low as 475's and as high as 550s (however you should have the long boom to use these blades!!!). you can get cf and wood ones online for pretty cheap tho. here's a link to some decent blades:

$15 woodies here:
http://www.readyheli.com/204302_Main_Rotor_Blades_Pack_Wooden_500L_Gaui_H_p/204302.htm

here are some under $50 cf blades (550)
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=6595&Product_Name=TIG_550mm_Carbon_Fiber_Z-Weave_(type_2)

good luck and welcome! :hug: we're a big, dysfunctional family here

[mysticmead]

600mm blades run the risk of hitting the tail blades...not worth the risk... 425mm will work, that's what the Gaui 425 uses.. but it would look funny with a long boom... not to mention, the head speed would be way off.. and the handling would be completly different..

buy the blades online... readyheli carries a good selection... hobbycity is a cheap source...

if you have the plastic frame, you probably have a long boom.. if you have the CF frame, it comes stock with the short boom.. look at the belt, if it says 522xl..that's the short boom.. don't go over 515mm with that boom setup

[xodarap1]

The 600 blades are on my list of things to try on the hurris.

The Rex 600 boom and tail push rod should work. The only thing that has kept me from ordering the parts is belt for the setup.

Does anyone know of a belt that would fit and work to run the Rex 600 boom?

[Markeydoo]

Thanks. I will have to do my ording on line for the parts
Thanks again
Mark

[lootje]

the belt for the stock boom for the 550

[mysticmead]

the belt for the stock boom for the 550


if you're saying that the stock belt can be used with the T600 boom.. not exactly true....

it can be used IF you cut the boom down to stock 550 length.. but if left at stock 600 length, then no, it's not long enough to use 600mm blades and NOT risk a tail blade strike.

[Sonn113]

The cheapest place I found to buy some 500 woodies is there : http://shop.eflypower.com/shop/views.asp?hw_id=1215 : $9.74 ! :thumbup:

But you have to had the shipping cost from Taiwan...

For a european guy like me, it remains cheaper than buying them in France !

[Wazzer]

The 600 blades are on my list of things to try on the hurris.

The Rex 600 boom and tail push rod should work. The only thing that has kept me from ordering the parts is belt for the setup.

Does anyone know of a belt that would fit and work to run the Rex 600 boom?

I think the standard Trex belt will work out for you. Its the same pitch as the gaui one just a little narrower.

If you use the standard Trex gear box and output shafts then i would think the belt would fit on the Hurricane tail output shaft no problem.

Would be fairly cheap option to try you can always buy a custom length timing belt online but sadly i forget where.

This is pretty interesting I would like to hear how this goes if you try it out.

You would probably need to fly bigger packs though to keep your flight times up
due to the higher weight of the blades?

Keep us posted on this

Cheers

Ben

[lootje]

if you're saying that the stock belt can be used with the T600 boom.. not exactly true....

it can be used IF you cut the boom down to stock 550 length.. but if left at stock 600 length, then no, it's not long enough to use 600mm blades and NOT risk a tail blade strike.

I am using the red align t-rex 600 boom unmodifed with the stock 550 belt
i tested it with the 600mm blades it just works
but for the safe side i would use at most 570mm blades
but the hurri can't fly 3d with more the 530mm blades or you will risk to strip your gears to much
wen stickbanging

[xodarap1]

I am using the red align t-rex 600 boom unmodifed with the stock 550 belt
Now THAT i liked to hear. Could you please list your detailed boom, pushrod + tail case setup? If you could post some pics, that would be awesome.

[Markeydoo]

Also what type of frame
Thanks

[lootje]

it's the plastic version with the 1500w gaui motor thurigy 80a esc 8s a123 carbon blades 500mm
gears 14 50 20 61
and some upgrade parts

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/5939/dsc04135vs0.th.jpg (http://img57.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc04135vs0.jpg)
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/968/dsc04139cp1.th.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc04139cp1.jpg)

[mysticmead]

it's the plastic version with the 1500w gaui motor thurigy 80a esc 8s a123 carbon blades 500mm
gears 14 50 20 61
and some upgrade parts

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/5939/dsc04135vs0.th.jpg (http://img57.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc04135vs0.jpg)
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/968/dsc04139cp1.th.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc04139cp1.jpg)

is that a custom length push rod for the tail? or the stock 550 push rod?

[xodarap1]

Thanks for posting those pics.
The first thing that i noticed was how far back the 500mm blades come in that position. That would mean they would come even further back if the blade grip and blade were fully extended towards the tail.

Could you please post one more pic of the main blade fully extended back towards the tail with the tail blades fully extended? :thumbup:

I'm not sure why, but for some reason, those pics look very similar to a hurri with 500mm and the long boom.

I guess it could be possible that the Rex 600 boom mounting blocks and frame location are further back than the hurri's, but it's not looking like enough room for 600mm blades to me from those pics.

[chrise2]

According to dimensions on Helidirects site, the Trex 600 boom is 625 mm long and the Hurri 550 boom is 630 mm. Weird. I guess the frame is a lot bigger on the Trex.

[mysticmead]

that's why I was asking about the push rod for the tail... it looks like the stock 550 push rod... that's why the stock belt works... it's the same length... it also explains why 600mm blades barely cleared... if you add in the trex 600 tail and K&B blades on the tail and you have a blade strike..600mm blades won't fit SAFELY...

[xodarap1]

I think he said that in the photo they were 500mm blades. I don't think 600mm's would clear with the Rex 600 or Gaui long boom even with the stock Gaui tail case. Please correct me if someone has already tested this. It sure would be nice to have a long enough boom and belt so you could run 475mm all the way up to 600mm blades on our hurris without ever having to switch boom sizes again.
That setup would do wonders for CG and would also allow for 4900+mAh 6S packs.. and a 600 canopy is easy to fit and wouldn't look bad with the larger 600mm blades and longer boom.
So close..and yet so far.. :)

[bobbybe]

you could get one of those tails that like bend up at the end and see if that fits. i've been trying to find a pic of it but i cant... i think alot of britts have those. its like a normal tail then at the end it bends upward like 45 degrees for another few inches. that would definitely clear 600s

[xodarap1]

Hi,
I was just looking around on HD's site and was wondering if you think this (cut to the correct length):
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=38_282_283&products_id=5818
would fit perfectly over a cut off section of this (which would be used to anchor the longer boom to the boom block):
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=38_238_281&products_id=3714
then using this belt:
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=38_282_283&products_id=5802
instead of this:
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=38_238_281&products_id=3772
in order to run these:
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=117_120_464&products_id=4979
powered by this (or similar):
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=31_377&products_id=2545
enclosed in this (or similar):
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=421_427&products_id=8325
Thoughts? :dontknow

[mjdee14]

Thoughts? :dontknow



WHY?.....it would really "strain" the drivetrain....other than making it look bigger what would you hope to accomplish? Other than spending more money on a heli that already flies good.......

[xodarap1]

Well, i've heard some folks on here saying that the 550 blades make the hurri more stable than it is with 500mm's. So, if i was gonna spend $ to go to 550 blades and get the longer boom setup, i figured it would make sense to spend about the same and go to 600mm with it and then run a larger pack.. and gear the motor to lower the rpms.
I didn't plan to run the 600mm's at the same HS i am now with 500mm's to put any additional strain on the train, just thought that a larger disk at around 2000 would have been even better than 500mm's at 2250. I thought it might even be less stress on everything overall.. but i'm not expert so couldn't tell ya.
I thought geared differently, i might not even need to run 2000 HS at 100% TC to get similar performance out of the ship.
Was just an idea since the 600 i flew was more stable than the 500 blades i'm running now and i still can't believe that it's the frame, motor and other parts on the rex 600 that is making it "feel" so different in the air.

[bobbybe]

oooh looks cool. however, it is an expensive experiment... but if it works you may have the very first "hurricane 600" :)

[BR2200]

The creation of a hurri 600.Can't wait.

[bpd964]

Sounds interesting.. I'm curious myself..

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