idle up help please!!!

[recker69]

when i hit the idle up swash the motor spins up like normal but the swash does not go up when you apply throttle stick down but it does go down when you apply throttle stick only up. which means at about a five foot hover if you hit the idle up switch it goes skyward very quickly! def. the worst crash yet. the only thing that was different between when it used to work and now is that i had aline woodeis blades and when it hit the baseball fields back drop it had aline carbon blades. i was thinking swash plate height but its like the servos just wont push it up. with other input the servos will go past the point they stoped at on the throttle, and i havent messed with any thing in the remote......
Nick

[sokal]

when i hit the idle up swash the motor spins up like normal but the swash does not go up when you apply throttle stick down but it does go down when you apply throttle stick only up. which means at about a five foot hover if you hit the idle up switch it goes skyward very quickly! def. the worst crash yet. the only thing that was different between when it used to work and now is that i had aline woodeis blades and when it hit the baseball fields back drop it had aline carbon blades. i was thinking swash plate height but its like the servos just wont push it up. with other input the servos will go past the point they stoped at on the throttle, and i havent messed with any thing in the remote......
Nick

in the pitch cure make sure normal is
40-45-50-75-100
stunt is
0-25-50-75-100

throttle curve
normal
0-25-50-75-100
stunt
80-80-80-80-80

u will also need to set the heli up in stunt/idle up mode
and recheck your head setup

[recker69]

pitch curve.
my norm is
35-42.5-50-75-100
stunt is
the same as yours
but the throttle curve for stunt is 100-87.5-70-87.5-100
i will use all your setings though
what do you mean set up in stunt mode?

[sokal]

pitch curve.
my norm is
35-42.5-50-75-100
stunt is
the same as yours
but the throttle curve for stunt is 100-87.5-70-87.5-100
i will use all your setings though
what do you mean set up in stunt mode?
when u set up the head its best to be in a full range

ie

pitch curve
0-25-50-75-100
witch means in pitch degree
-10-/-5/0/5/10

if u set up in normal
using your curent curve
your range in degrees is
-3/-1/0/5/100

the full range mod will make sure your head is set perfectly as normal curve is just a limitied fullrange since u wont need -10 with a low stick position as low stick in normal mode is 0 motor rpm
idle up provides a close to constant motor speed through full pitch range

[recker69]

ok i got all that set but it still wont push the swash up, it will still just go down. when you push the stick up and down.

[1BADAIR]

hmmm
did you set the head up with Throttle hold turned on?
the switch in front of the trainer switch should be on 1(BE SURE to unhook 2 motor wires) when setting it up without throttle hold on.(unless you changed the throttle hold curve to match the idleup/stunt curver)

[sokal]

yes if u have your hold on it will always overide the other flight modes
so if hold curve is like normal than all you will see is normal

i set my th hold curve to be the same as idleup/stunt

[Jasmine2501]

yes if u have your hold on it will always overide the other flight modes
so if hold curve is like normal than all you will see is normal

i set my th hold curve to be the same as idleup/stunt

Yeah pretty important tip there... if the throttle hold pitch curve is set up like normal mode, you might not be able to do a successful auto-rotation. Also helps during setup, but pretty important for doing autos, if you ever have to.

[recker69]

well that might be the prob. in this case im so used to switching the throttle hold when im done trying to fly.... i got my main blades in so im setting every thing up now so i will make damn sure the throttle hold is not on sence it has already cost me about 55 dollers but i will find out tomorrow at lunch thanks for the help every one and wish my luck!

[Jasmine2501]

well that might be the prob. in this case im so used to switching the throttle hold when im done trying to fly.... i got my main blades in so im setting every thing up now so i will make damn sure the throttle hold is not on sence it has already cost me about 55 dollers but i will find out tomorrow at lunch thanks for the help every one and wish my luck!

No you want to have the throttle hold on. If it's off, the blades will spin up! Just make sure the pitch curve for the throttle hold mode is the same as the idle-up pitch curve, or you won't see the full range of pitch in throttle hold mode.