hurry 550 or trex 500

[shaggybirdman]

witch is the better pick? hurry 550, or the trex 500?

[mysticmead]

witch is the better pick? hurry 550, or the trex 500?


that all depends on what YOU are looking for...

do you want a big heli that out of the box will be very stable and have enough performance for sport flying and ,mild 3D? or do you want a heli that's a little bigger than a 450 but not quite .30 sized yet can do hardcore 3D out of the box?

asking which one is better can get you different answers based on the forum you post the question in as well as the person answering it..

you also would be better comparing heli's of the same size... like the Hurricane 425 and the Trex 500.. comparing the Hurri 550 to a trex 500 is kind of like comparing a raptor .30 to an Avant 90...the Hurri 550 is HUGE compared to the T500...

now, the Hurri has a lot to offer as long as you know what you want and it meets your expectations.. it's big... its stable... it's easy to see.. it's as cheap to crash as a 450... and the absolute best peoplein the world are right here in this forum... and they'll all help without telling you to do a search....

[jujiro]

All depends on what kind of flying you want to do . The T-rex 500 is designed totally for 3d and will do it all as it comes stock with no problems. THe 500 is a bit smaller than the Hurricane 550, but it's stock performance in power and flip roll rates outdoes the Hurricane 550, atleast comparing stock to stock .

The Hurricane 550 is a good flyer but wasnt' really desined for high power / hard flying . It does excellent in its stock form for sport flying , but the carbon framed version will do 3d but it costs a lot to get it and add the metal head on top of it. At the amount that it costs I'd go for an Outrage 550 that was more or less designed to be a crazy powered monster and would cost the same that a CNC Hurricane 550 does.

[mysticmead]

see... you'll get a wide range of answers... the ones that don't like the hurri or tried to push it to far will complain... those that did their research and knew what they were looking for will tell you that it's the best...

then you have people like Justin Chi or Kyle Stacey can fly the snot out of a Hurri and make it do any of the hard 3D moves... so take negative answers with a grain of salt..... and make sure you know the flying style you have...

[mcnabbwr]

The Hurricane is a great heli to learn on, very stable and cheap to repair. However as my skills improve I will go into a more 3D capable machine such as the Outrage or Align, not sure which but by the time I'm ready there will be more models to choose from.

[jujiro]

see... you'll get a wide range of answers... the ones that don't like the hurri or tried to push it to far will complain... those that did their research and knew what they were looking for will tell you that it's the best...

then you have people like Justin Chi or Kyle Stacey can fly the snot out of a Hurri and make it do any of the hard 3D moves... so take negative answers with a grain of salt..... and make sure you know the flying style you have...


Yea well now I know , but when I was in the market I had this same exact question between The T-rex 500 or the Hurricane 550 and everybody told me it could fly just like the T-rex 500 no problem and shoved Kyle Stacey and Justin Chi videos my way . Although this was early last year like around Febuary. I still don't know how they do it , but I haven't really seen any other videos of people flying the Hurricane even remotely close to them @_@.

I know I say a lot of negative things about the Hurricane 550 but I don't mean to bash the Hurry or anything I just want any potential buyer to know of the faults as well so they can make an informed descision and not be disappointed a few months down the line when they try to push it more and start seeing failures.

[bobbybe]

one thing is for sure across the board though and that is if you're looking for a heli to learn 3d on, then the hurri is a sure bet! it is possible to do hard 3d and unless you're doing 4pt tictocs and stick-banging, this heli will outperform your skills. you'd have to be pretty good to get to the point where it's not enough for you... some people say that the pitch/roll rates are slow, but put a $10 pair of ion-x paddles on and it will flip just as fast as the 500 :) so what are you looking for??

steve- will you chime in here? i remember you saying something about this and i know you're into the harder stuff :thumbup:

obviously we have alot of hurri loyalists here- it's definitely an easy heli to fall in love with....

[JaggedEdge]

Both. :cheers

500 is a bit cheaper to fly than the 550. Smaller servos, blades, and batteries.

[mysticmead]

Yea well now I know , but when I was in the market I had this same exact question between The T-rex 500 or the Hurricane 550 and everybody told me it could fly just like the T-rex 500 no problem and shoved Kyle Stacey and Justin Chi videos my way . Although this was early last year like around Febuary. I still don't know how they do it , but I haven't really seen any other videos of people flying the Hurricane even remotely close to them @_@.

I know I say a lot of negative things about the Hurricane 550 but I don't mean to bash the Hurry or anything I just want any potential buyer to know of the faults as well so they can make an informed descision and not be disappointed a few months down the line when they try to push it more and start seeing failures.

well... the hurri can do al the 3D stuff... it just takes a lot of finesse and the right setup.. it doesn't need a head speed of 2500 rpm... 2200 is plenty.. remember that it's not a small heli and don't expect it to snap around like a 450 on crack and all is good.. as far as not seeing a lot of videos of the hurri, you're right.. it's a shame too.. to bad Align has a stable full of pilots... they don't make the best helis...

[jujiro]

well... the hurri can do al the 3D stuff... it just takes a lot of finesse and the right setup.. it doesn't need a head speed of 2500 rpm... 2200 is plenty.. remember that it's not a small heli and don't expect it to snap around like a 450 on crack and all is good.. as far as not seeing a lot of videos of the hurri, you're right.. it's a shame too.. to bad Align has a stable full of pilots... they don't make the best helis...

Well IMO they do make the best heli in the price they charge for their kits and parts .I have yet to ever be dissapointed with or have a mechanical failure with my Align helicopters. Except for the T-rex 250 I had a tail failure, but I was asking for that for having to have it when it was first realeased, Ohh well it's all fixed now and no problems =D.

It all depends on how you like to fly and feel of your helicopter. I like a more solid , crisp feeling and around 2200 rpms the Hurri still felt a bit mushy . *shrugs* THe videods of Kyle and Justin, their headspeed has to be around 2400-2500 to get that kind of performance. And that's around what the Logo 500 uses to get it's 3d performance as well.

A 550 won't snap around like a 450 , then I think somebody needs to tell the Outrage 550 that :shock:

[mjdee14]

One of the guys at my field went from a Blade 400 to the Trex 500...

He tosses it around the sky like a rag doll......trying tic tocs and other types of 3D...

Now I fly my 550 in circles with flips, wingovers....loops, stall turns, , etc....tried a few awkward tic tocs....

I have a Z30 cf, metal head, 530mm blades......and I'll take my smooth flying 550 over the trex 500 that looks like an angry bee on crack....

If your into hard 3d....then you might want the trex.....if it's learning, smooth flying, wind penetration, mild to moderate 3D then the 550 is a great ship....

If your older and have trouble seeing at a distance....then the 550 is for you....


and as mystic mentioned....with the 550 you get us for free.....

they are two different ships and fly much differently

decide what you want.....and your style..and go from there...

[mysticmead]

Well IMO they do make the best heli in the price they charge for their kits and parts .I have yet to ever be dissapointed with or have a mechanical failure with my Align helicopters. Except for the T-rex 250 I had a tail failure, but I was asking for that for having to have it when it was first realeased, Ohh well it's all fixed now and no problems =D.

It all depends on how you like to fly and feel of your helicopter. I like a more solid , crisp feeling and around 2200 rpms the Hurri still felt a bit mushy . *shrugs* THe videods of Kyle and Justin, their headspeed has to be around 2400-2500 to get that kind of performance. And that's around what the Logo 500 uses to get it's 3d performance as well.

A 550 won't snap around like a 450 , then I think somebody needs to tell the Outrage 550 that :shock:

you are certainly entitled to your opinion... mine is that there are other heli's that are better made... while it might cost more to get one, it'll be a much better heli.. Gaui isn't the best either... but in it's price range and SIZE, it's a great heli.. yes the outrage 550 will snap and crack... but compared to a outrage G5...or a Rave... it's not going to be near as quick..again it's apples to oranges...

as it's been said by others.. the hurri will serve just about anyone well, depending on the flying style and learning level..we'll be more than happy to suggest a heli other than a hurri if it would be a better fit for a pilot.. I would certainly hope that other's out there would do the same...

so... if a person is looking for a snappy 3D monster... they need to look at the 500 class heli's... Atom... Protos.. hurricane 435.. SJM 430 (I want this one)...Logo 400.. trex 500.. Vibe 500E (if ya have the money I bet it'll be one of the best)

if a person is looking for a larger stable heli... there's the Hurricane 550, Esky eSmart, Logo 500, Raptor e550, Century e550, Outrage 550 (possibly more that I'm forgetting...

but none of them except the hurri 550 have a bunch of crazy people to hang out with in the forums and have a good time all day long :D

[jujiro]

you are certainly entitled to your opinion... mine is that there are other heli's that are better made... while it might cost more to get one, it'll be a much better heli.. Gaui isn't the best either... but in it's price range and SIZE, it's a great heli.. yes the outrage 550 will snap and crack... but compared to a outrage G5...or a Rave... it's not going to be near as quick..again it's apples to oranges...

Yea and I can agree to that, notice I have my Outrage G5 listed and not my T-rex 450 in my sig . ;p It does fly a lot better than my T-rex 450 because the Rex 450 is getting old and outdated in it's design and others are out doing it. That's why whenever somebody asks for a 550 I encourage them to look at the Outrage since it's the newest on the block and costs the same amount as the carbon Hurricane 550. It's no dis to the Gaui just that it has more potential so you could always beef up the motor system if you want more power down the road and not have to worry about the possibility of buying a new kit.. That and the replacement parts or the same cost as my t-rex 500 :shock::shock: !!

I thought about mentioning the other 550's but don't know much about the others so can't speak for them either way. Anyways I think it would be good if the competition from other companies got Gaui to make a 550 V2 like they did with the 200 =D .

[mysticmead]

one of the differences in the outrage 550 and Hurri 550 is the batteries... the outrage needs a LOT more in battery power than the Hurri.. the outrage needs at least a 4200 6s... and really shines with 8s

[Aerowizzard]

Sorry wrong place
:noteworthy

[mysticmead]

Sorry wrong place
:noteworthy


lol... you're a helifreak... it's always the right place

[xodarap1]

My short answer (yes, i have one lol) would be to get a used Rex 500 and a Hurri. :thumbup: Then sell one after a few months and lose next to nothing since the battery packs will fit either.

(uh oh.. now the long answer) :arggg:

As for the Outrage..yes, the battery specs are a big thing to consider. It was the main factor that kept me from buying it or a Rex 600.

I still like that i can run two 3s 2200 30C packs in the hurris and use those same packs in my 450's. Also that i can run all the 3300 6s 25C brick packs in my hurris and can use the same packs in a Rex 500.

Those are sweet options and are something you can't do if you have an Outrage 550 and/or Rex 600 and want to share the same packs with a Rex 500 or Hurri. It really is nice if you have 10 to 15 lipos and want to take only one heli for the day and can use all the packs you have in that one heli if you choose without limits.

And even though it was a killer deal at the time, i got my CF hurri with lots of extras (almost enough to build another hurri) for much less than a new fully outfitted CF Outrage 550 costs, so it was a win win and i had to jump on it.

In my case, it depended on what i wanted to spend for two rtf helis, lots of spares, a multiple charger setup and multiple battery packs because I knew how much i planned to fly each day. I wanted it all but for the lowest cost with minimal recharge/down time and it's still working well.

Of course the cost to feed the hurri it's batteries compared to many other helis (especially the Rex 600) is still refreshing when i see what other guys at the clubs are spending just to have 1 or 2 monster packs which take longer to charge, cost more when you taco em..and they can't even share Rex 500 and Rex 600 packs.

When i finally get rid of the 450s, i may go to the Rex 500 or the new larger Dragonus just because all the 6s packs will fit em all then (except the little honey bee lol.. A cheap scrap of a heli which i can't bring myself to part with cuz it was the first heli that i looped, rolled and learned low inverted stuff with heheh.. we got "history" man..). :YeaBaby: :cheers

[shaggybirdman]

WOW! thanks to everyone.

well i'm just starting out, and a total no0b. i don't see much 3D in my future short of inverted, or very basic 3D. sport flying, and obstical course flying is what i think i'll end up doing. maybe scale.

i'll be honest though. when i first saw the 550 i said that's my next heli. i like the fact that it uses the same packs as my trex 450. only pain is the short flight times.

where is the best deal on one? what motor/esc do i need? do i really need the c/f frame? is it a 30 size heli. i do believe it is, but not sure.

[jujiro]

WOW! thanks to everyone.

well i'm just starting out, and a total no0b. i don't see much 3D in my future short of inverted, or very basic 3D. sport flying, and obstical course flying is what i think i'll end up doing. maybe scale.

i'll be honest though. when i first saw the 550 i said that's my next heli. i like the fact that it uses the same packs as my trex 450. only pain is the short flight times.

where is the best deal on one? what motor/esc do i need? do i really need the c/f frame? is it a 30 size heli. i do believe it is, but not sure.

Yes the Hurricane 550 is basically a 30 size heli. For what you want the Hurricane 550 would actually be better, and for the flying style you want getting the CF version isn't necessary , actually the stock setup on the plastic frame version would probably be very good. Might want to see if you can get whoever you order the heli from to swap out the gaui motor with a z20 980 as it's more efficient than the stock motor.

My only quarrel with the Plastic frame is setting up the gear mesh since it requires that you remove the whole motor late to adjust the gear mesh instead of simpy sliding the motor back @_@.

The other guys should be able to help you out more with the flying time you can get with the Z20 setup but I think some were getting around 5 -6 minutes give or take with a 3300 mah battery .

[mjdee14]

When I first started and had a low HS....1800....I could easily get 7 -8 min of cruzin with my 3300 20c Zippys.

If you go for the 550, which I think you'll enjoy at your level....get the plastic frame as mentioned....it's cheap to replace and flys well for what you want to do.

The Z20 -980kv is the motor of choice for many....I run that in my plastic frame and a Z30 in my cf frame....

Helidirect and readyheli are two good sources....as is flying hobby overseas....

be careful with the 450 lipos.....if they are of a low C rating and your using the stock Gaui motor.....you might puff them.....I had no luck with 2200 18c lipos.....puffed them both.

Zippys can be had for about $49 for 3300 20c...and they work as good or better than polyquest costing twice as much....

[Jerrymac]

I got my Hurri from Ka-Planes 'N' Copters, same place I got my Blackhawk 450. They are great people to do business with. If you have a question , you can email them ( use the AOL address ) and they usually reply in a few hours. Shipping is fast too. Got mine from Florida to Pa. in 3 days. They carry alot of the parts too.

And since I sell stuff on ebay and take paypal, the nice thing about Ka-Planes is that they accept paypal payments too.

I have gotten some parts from Helidirect and Readyheli and their service was good too, but last time Iooked I think they were out of stock on the Hurri 550.

http://www.ka-planes.com/helicopters?b=1

[kahn10]

and if you get a 2mm drill bit and drill a hole thru the head of the motor cap screws you can poke a 2mm allen key thru em and mesh to yer hearts content :smokin:

[mysticmead]

ka-planes is a good shop... readyheli and helidirect are great shops... flying-hobby.com has a custom hurri builder...

on my CF hurri, I get 6 mins on 2200mah 25c packs.. that's using the Z20a-980 with 14/20/50/61 gearing... that's a nice slow head speed and gentle flying...with a 3300mah pack I could get even more flight time..

that's one of the strong points about the Hurri... you can gear it from mild to wild.. the plastic frame will be fine for you.. I went with the CF frame because I like the way it looks...

[shaggybirdman]

and if you get a 2mm drill bit and drill a hole thru the head of the motor cap screws you can poke a 2mm allen key thru em and mesh to yer hearts content :smokin:

ok i'm lost. a hole in the motor screws to set your gear mesh? i must have missed something.

[shaggybirdman]

ka-planes is a good shop... readyheli and helidirect are great shops... flying-hobby.com has a custom hurri builder...

on my CF hurri, I get 6 mins on 2200mah 25c packs.. that's using the Z20a-980 with 14/20/50/61 gearing... that's a nice slow head speed and gentle flying...with a 3300mah pack I could get even more flight time..

that's one of the strong points about the Hurri... you can gear it from mild to wild.. the plastic frame will be fine for you.. I went with the CF frame because I like the way it looks...

i'm sold on the hurri, but what motor/esc do i need, or is the stock ones fine for sport/mild 3D flying?

also what's the best bang for the buck on batteries? i'd like 25C or better. i had a 20C, and it had no snap to it like the 25C's. who has them as well?

i do have 1 problem though. i need a winch servo for my AC sailboat. it's either the servo, or the hurri. i know your guys thoughts, but i really would like to get the boat in the water this season. sorry for a boat pic on a heli forum, but i thought ya mite like to see my moneys competition.