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Stephen29
02-28-2009, 04:23 PM
Just wanted to see how much it costs to repair a Belt Cp after a typical crash ? I know there will be a alot of variables, but I just wanted a ball park answer. Maybe someone could list the typical parts that are most likely to break, and the cost of those parts.




Thanks Stephen

Donnie D
02-28-2009, 05:27 PM
:thumbup:Go to nutcaze.com and you will find what you are looking for.:YeaBaby:

Donnie D

Esky Dauphin
Esky HBFP (Super Skids)
Esky Belt CP (Super Skids)

kronin
02-28-2009, 05:45 PM
I've crashed my Belt CP V2 twice.

first time, I had to replace:
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=117_120_464&products_id=1104 $12.99 - Main blades
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=38_235_620&products_id=8543 $5.25 - Balancing pole
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=38_235_620&products_id=8546 $4.35 - Feathering shaft (only used 1 of them)
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=38_235_620&products_id=8570 $2.50 - Tail boom
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=30_307_312&products_id=7773 $6.50 - Main shaft (used 1 of the 3)
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=38_235_620&products_id=1751 $6.41 - Main gear (only used the main gear, not tail gear)

Total cost: $38 (with 2 main shafts, 1 feathering shaft, and lower gear left over)

second time, I had to replace:
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=117_120_464&products_id=1104 $12.99 - Main blades
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=38_235_620&products_id=8543 $5.25 - Balancing pole
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=38_235_620&products_id=8568 $4.00 - Flybar
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=38_235_620&products_id=2075 $5.15 - Tail boom supports
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=38_235_620&products_id=8546 $4.35 - Feathering shaft (used the second one from the first crash)
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=38_235_620&products_id=8570 $2.50 - Tail boom
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=30_307_312&products_id=7773 $6.50 - Main shaft (used 1 of the 3 from the first crash)
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=38_235_620&products_id=1751 $6.41 - Main gear (only used the main gear, not tail gear)

Total cost: $36.40 (with 1 main shaft still left over)

I've upgraded other stuff in the process, but not as a necessity of crash damage. Both of these crashes were also into hard surfaces. The first one was partially nose-in to an asphalt street. The second was partially nose-in inside a garage. I had the training gear on in both crashes.

Never having flown a helicopter before, I'm now on my 35th flight. Spreading those parts costs over all flights, it averages out to about $2.12 per flight (not taking into account the cost of the heli itself, charger and extra batteries).

If I include the heli base cost ($229), 3 x 2100 mAh esky batteries ($130.50), an e-station BC6 charger ($169.90), miscellaneous tools ($120), UBEC ($29.99), upgraded servos (SG90, $19.50) and tail (Align, $55), I'm at a grand total of $828.29.

So, it's cost me $23 per flight for 35 flights. I could have saved $$ on the charger, only bought one battery (or stuck with the 1800 mAh that came with the heli), scrimped on some of my tools, and stayed away from the Align tail upgrade. That'd probably cut $340 out of what I've spent so far.

Oh, and that ignores the Spektrum DX7 that's on its way... :DOH

I'm having a blast, though :thumbup:

B2TheEYo
02-28-2009, 05:59 PM
Well, I was a moron and hit the Idle up switch when I got my heli, so I didn't get to fly it - but I did smash it all to hell with the help of a collion to my cast iron ceiling fan.

I broke the main blades, main gear, main shaft, flybar case, paddles, horizontal stabilizer, one servo and my swash plate. Paind the average rate for everything.

Cost me $120 shipped.

But partly because I bought the whole Esky CNC head/tail upgrade combo with that order ($30 it was cheap I think it was worth it, may reduce a lot of plastic parts I'd have to replace - mind you to get the head as slop free as I have, it takes a lot of.. home brewing).

In total since I started this hobby I've spent $870 but I'm building a second heli (just need too order the Motor/Gryro/Receiver/Battery for it. Still likely another $200 no doubt the way the Canadian dollar is going!).

I have even flew my heli yet and I'm learning a lot and having a jolly'kick'ass time tunning and building - not to mention getting to spend some time with some great people on HeliFreak. :kiss

Cough.

mgjones
02-28-2009, 06:05 PM
I'm a complete noobie and haven't had many crashes, and the crashes I have had haven't been serious.. But.. on my BeltCP v2 I had one light boom strike that cost me about $30 and a hard landing that cost me about $20 (including shipping of parts)

The parts I have replaced so far:

Rotor Blades
Feathering Shaft
Flybar Holder
Ring Link

I can also see a main shaft and the main gears being an issue in a crash while the throttle is up - I've been lucky both crashes as I was off the throttle on impact.

Hope this helps.

- Michael

Jonnyheli
02-28-2009, 06:06 PM
As long as you don't buy that 100, 000 trex 600 then you should manage a few crashes every now and again

-Jonny

B2TheEYo
02-28-2009, 08:32 PM
As long as you don't buy that 100, 000 trex 600 then you should manage a few crashes every now and again

-Jonny

:YeaBaby: Agreed.

nasukaren
03-01-2009, 10:49 PM
I've crashed my Belt CP three times:

Crash 1 (Hopping):
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1x Feathering Bar
Skinned the white wrapping off the main rotor blades in the snow, but still usable.


Belt CP Crash 2 (First real flight):
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1x Tail blade holder
1x Tail blade
1x Flybar
1x Feathering Bar
1x Main gear
2x Control linkage
1x Main shaft

Belt CP Crash #3 Damage
====================
2 x Align Pro 325 blades
1 x Main boom
2 x Boom supports
1x EXI plastic tail rotor main casing
1x Main rotor control link
1x Flybar shaft
1x Main Gear
1x Tail Rotor Gear



So about $30-50 per crash so far. :-) :thumbup:

Karen

helihathnofury
03-02-2009, 09:23 AM
But that is one of the strengths of the Belt package - easy to crash, cheap and easy to fix. As soon as you start upgrading with "better" components, you won't crash so much, but when you do, it is more costly.

Stephen29
03-02-2009, 10:25 AM
I've crashed my Belt CP V2 twice.

first time, I had to replace:
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=117_120_464&products_id=1104 $12.99 - Main blades
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=38_235_620&products_id=8543 $5.25 - Balancing pole
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=38_235_620&products_id=8546 $4.35 - Feathering shaft (only used 1 of them)
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=38_235_620&products_id=8570 $2.50 - Tail boom
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=30_307_312&products_id=7773 $6.50 - Main shaft (used 1 of the 3)
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=38_235_620&products_id=1751 $6.41 - Main gear (only used the main gear, not tail gear)

Total cost: $38 (with 2 main shafts, 1 feathering shaft, and lower gear left over)

second time, I had to replace:
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=117_120_464&products_id=1104 $12.99 - Main blades
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=38_235_620&products_id=8543 $5.25 - Balancing pole
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=38_235_620&products_id=8568 $4.00 - Flybar
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=38_235_620&products_id=2075 $5.15 - Tail boom supports
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=38_235_620&products_id=8546 $4.35 - Feathering shaft (used the second one from the first crash)
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=38_235_620&products_id=8570 $2.50 - Tail boom
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=30_307_312&products_id=7773 $6.50 - Main shaft (used 1 of the 3 from the first crash)
http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=38_235_620&products_id=1751 $6.41 - Main gear (only used the main gear, not tail gear)

Total cost: $36.40 (with 1 main shaft still left over)

I've upgraded other stuff in the process, but not as a necessity of crash damage. Both of these crashes were also into hard surfaces. The first one was partially nose-in to an asphalt street. The second was partially nose-in inside a garage. I had the training gear on in both crashes.

Never having flown a helicopter before, I'm now on my 35th flight. Spreading those parts costs over all flights, it averages out to about $2.12 per flight (not taking into account the cost of the heli itself, charger and extra batteries).

If I include the heli base cost ($229), 3 x 2100 mAh esky batteries ($130.50), an e-station BC6 charger ($169.90), miscellaneous tools ($120), UBEC ($29.99), upgraded servos (SG90, $19.50) and tail (Align, $55), I'm at a grand total of $828.29.

So, it's cost me $23 per flight for 35 flights. I could have saved $$ on the charger, only bought one battery (or stuck with the 1800 mAh that came with the heli), scrimped on some of my tools, and stayed away from the Align tail upgrade. That'd probably cut $340 out of what I've spent so far.

Oh, and that ignores the Spektrum DX7 that's on its way... :DOH

I'm having a blast, though :thumbup:

thanks Kronin, as well as everyone else. Great info.

mnwizard
03-02-2009, 10:31 AM
But that is one of the strengths of the Belt package - easy to crash, cheap and easy to fix. As soon as you start upgrading with "better" components, you won't crash so much, but when you do, it is more costly.

As we've always said here, the better you get, the more expensive your crashes are! :YeaBaby:

Heli Yea!
03-02-2009, 01:08 PM
Most of the common parts you kill in a crash come in multi-packs such as booms, main shafts, flybars ect. So your first crash costs more than your second.:thumbup:

B2TheEYo
03-02-2009, 02:14 PM
Just a tip when buying those main shaft/boom/ flybar rod packages, always check to see if their straight when you get them! I've had one or two come out of the packaged, all wonkie - I was ticked! :thumbdown:

:P