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shaggybirdman
03-13-2009, 06:21 PM
well the day finally arrived. i have all the parts needed to start assembly. only question i got now is if i need to put the rubber grommet, and brass insert in the servo mount? i'd think not, but the hole is bigger than the mounting screw. maybe just the grommets.

well off ta start centering the servos. went with futaba 9650's instead of the 255 BB's i originally bought. they were too short.

Ktbone
03-13-2009, 07:33 PM
Rubber gromets yes: brass bushings no.

Go build,assemble, adjust....repeat. And be sure to post pictures when you are done.

shaggybirdman
03-14-2009, 05:29 PM
do i put a strap over the gyro. i have one on my trex. some say yes, and others no. so witch is it?

Ktbone
03-14-2009, 05:49 PM
I have a strap on my gyro on my 450 but not on my 550; how much do you trust the adhesive?

JaggedEdge
03-14-2009, 06:30 PM
If this is the CHP frames, the Kit comes with "servo plates".

http://www.readyheli.com/v/vspfiles/photos/CHP-062-2T.jpg
http://www.readyheli.com/Custom_Heli_Parts_Carbon_Fiber_Servo_Plates_p/chp-062.htm

vicrc
03-14-2009, 08:37 PM
Those are in the heli that I sold you, the carbon plates Charlie mention above, just make sure you use loc-tite but don't put much pressure on them as they are little tiny screws.

shaggybirdman
03-16-2009, 05:15 PM
not what i meant. wasn't sure if i needed to put the brass inserts in or not. i only used the rubber grommets and the little CF servo plates over the grommets.

gotta find another screw for the tail servo, and a ball, and screw for it as well. also gotta find the manual.

If this is the CHP frames, the Kit comes with "servo plates".

http://www.readyheli.com/v/vspfiles/photos/CHP-062-2T.jpg
http://www.readyheli.com/Custom_Heli_Parts_Carbon_Fiber_Servo_Plates_p/chp-062.htm

JaggedEdge
03-16-2009, 06:57 PM
Use the servo plates. Not the rubber grommets.

not what i meant. wasn't sure if i needed to put the brass inserts in or not. i only used the rubber grommets and the little CF servo plates over the grommets.

gotta find another screw for the tail servo, and a ball, and screw for it as well. also gotta find the manual.

shaggybirdman
03-16-2009, 10:54 PM
i had to cut off the piece of rubber off the bottom of the servo ear (side against the frame). the screws i had were just a bit short. gotta hit up my lhs. the tail servo screws are a different size than the cyclic servo screws.

vicrc
03-16-2009, 11:10 PM
Oh yeah, did not use any rubber grommets or them brass inserts. I heard you need to use them on heli that are glow powered at least the rubber grommets. But I could be wrong never ran glow helis.

Good choice in servos, them 9650s are awesome.

shaggybirdman
03-16-2009, 11:12 PM
what pinion did you use? did you fly her with the scorpion? if so what gearing?

shaggybirdman
03-22-2009, 05:10 PM
well i dropped on a pinion (not even sure how many tooth it is), and spun her up without main blades.:thumbup::hug::Bang what a rush :banana i had to set the ele, and aler pitc rates down. i was almost wacking the boom. still in one piece. put the blades on, and spun her up. boy am i looking forward to flying her. still got some radio setup to do, but it's not long now till she is in the air :cheers

supper time. have a few issues though.

vicrc
03-22-2009, 06:03 PM
What motor, are you running? I forget what gears were on there. Last setup was Z30-800kv, running 9s around 2500 head speed with 500mm blades.

shaggybirdman
03-22-2009, 10:25 PM
the scorpion ya added to the deal.

shaggybirdman
03-24-2009, 12:12 PM
lucky me. here i sit at the court house waiting to see if i gotta sit for a trial. woopy :bomb: i'm in the last like 12 peeps to get interviewed. they sent us out for an extended lunch. was told that they aren't sure if they are going to prosicute or not. what a pisser but if i get let go i don't have to worry about doing this again for 8 years. i guess it must be a federal case. oh well. back to more important issues.

my hurri.

ok i got the aluminum blade grips, but why did they make them bigger than the blade end? i had to put a shim on top of the blade to take up the slack. then i went to tighten them down, but the grip is too stiff to tighten it down. do i dare squeeze them a bit, or what?

i ust saw that that the HK-3026 scorpion motors are for 425 to 450mm blade helis. am i going to come up short on power?

stock gaui 500mm blades used in the aluminum grips don't need the brass sleave. that's cool.

i gotta get a diferent bec now. the one i got would work with a 2-3s pack, but would fry with the one i bought http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=6233 correct. actualy i got it for my trex 450 but when i got it i found out it was too big. decided to use it on my hurri on 2 3s1p packs, but then thought it would drain one pack and creat problems. what a pisser. now that i'm going to use A123 on her i have too high a input voltage.

how much voltage will a spektrum 6200 take? i'm sure it won't take a 7s A123 battery. correct?

what's a good bec at a reasonable price, or i mite just use a rx pack. my friend has a rx pack he got with his dx7. a lipo ta boot.

Ktbone
03-24-2009, 01:03 PM
ok i got the aluminum blade grips, but why did they make them bigger than the blade end? i had to put a shim on top of the blade to take up the slack. then i went to tighten them down, but the grip is too stiff to tighten it down. do i dare squeeze them a bit, or what?

If it's anything like my metal grips it's not the grip that's keeping you from tightening the blade down; it's the bolt; you ran out of thread.
I put a small washer under the head of the bolt and that gave me enough thread to tention the blade grip.

mysticmead
03-24-2009, 01:21 PM
lucky me. here i sit at the court house waiting to see if i gotta sit for a trial. woopy :bomb: i'm in the last like 12 peeps to get interviewed. they sent us out for an extended lunch. was told that they aren't sure if they are going to prosicute or not. what a pisser but if i get let go i don't have to worry about doing this again for 8 years. i guess it must be a federal case. oh well. back to more important issues.
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I don't ever have to worry about it.. I'm a former cop.. the defense won't let me sit on a jury.


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my hurri.

ok i got the aluminum blade grips, but why did they make them bigger than the blade end? i had to put a shim on top of the blade to take up the slack. then i went to tighten them down, but the grip is too stiff to tighten it down. do i dare squeeze them a bit, or what?

i ust saw that that the HK-3026 scorpion motors are for 425 to 450mm blade helis. am i going to come up short on power?

stock gaui 500mm blades used in the aluminum grips don't need the brass sleave. that's cool.

i gotta get a diferent bec now. the one i got would work with a 2-3s pack, but would fry with the one i bought http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=6233 correct. actualy i got it for my trex 450 but when i got it i found out it was too big. decided to use it on my hurri on 2 3s1p packs, but then thought it would drain one pack and creat problems. what a pisser. now that i'm going to use A123 on her i have too high a input voltage.

how much voltage will a spektrum 6200 take? i'm sure it won't take a 7s A123 battery. correct?

what's a good bec at a reasonable price, or i mite just use a rx pack. my friend has a rx pack he got with his dx7. a lipo ta boot.


first of all... RELAX.. you worry and over think this way to much... the ar6200 will take 8v no problem.. no, it won't take a 7s a123... not that you should EVER connect a 5s-12s battery pack direct to the RXunless it was the one version that JR makes that is made to step down teh power.. it would serve no purpose.. the RX only needs enough juice to work.

the SIMPLE approach is this...use a 2s lipo with the Gaui BEC.. it's CHEAP and allows you to power the electronics without the blades spinning... you're already running a123 so you're not looking to make a super light heli and do extreme 3D.. or even use the one you already have and stick a 2s Lipo in there to power it and teh electronics.

or you can get a Dimension Engeineering Sport BEC or a CC Bec and wire the sucker in...

the important thing at this point is to step back... RELAX... and stop over thinking... it's a heli... it's not rocket science...

oh yeah... as far as the scorpion motor.. the blade size recommended means jack sh!t stop looking at those specs on their site.. if you went by the specs at scorpion, you'd be trying to stuff a 4020 or 4025 in the frame.. IF you got it to fit between the arms, you'd have to gear the sucker down so low to keep the head speed down and not eat the gears that it makes running that motor pointless... the 3026 fits perfect..you just really need a 1210 or better... OR the Z30-1110 I find that my Z20a-980 on 7s a123 is plenty for ME.,.. if I were to buy another motor... it'd be a Z30-1110... unless we could get the gear train to handle extreme torque... then I'd shoehorn a 4020 in there just because I like overkill :D (that will happen as soon as Gaui gets busy and makes some design changes that are long over due)

shaggybirdman
03-24-2009, 03:22 PM
i have 8 2s1p's sitting for my cx2. i mite just use one of them without the bec, or with. not sure at this point. i have a 5s AA pack strapped to the frame for initial madin spin up. witch went well. had to tone down the throw on the elevator, and aileron. the fly bar was close to whacking the boom :wow2:

lol over think? ya think? lol i just want to do it right the first time is all.

shaggybirdman
03-24-2009, 03:23 PM
now i gotta pop of the gears to see whats installed. if i remember correct i'm shooting for 1800 on the head speed?

mysticmead
03-24-2009, 03:58 PM
i have 8 2s1p's sitting for my cx2. i mite just use one of them without the bec, or with. not sure at this point. i have a 5s AA pack strapped to the frame for initial madin spin up. witch went well. had to tone down the throw on the elevator, and aileron. the fly bar was close to whacking the boom :wow2:

lol over think? ya think? lol i just want to do it right the first time is all.


a 2s Lipo will pump 8.4v into your electronics... causing your servos to die a quick death... use a BEC.... the UBEC you have is perfect for the job... set it to output 5v and then there's no need for a step down on the gyro or tail servo...

and yes, you over think.. I know you want it done right the first time...and it will be...just rela...drink a beer... kick back... and try to not over think it... you'll be surprised... it actually works...

shaggybirdman
03-24-2009, 04:02 PM
you da man mystic.

mysticmead
03-24-2009, 04:03 PM
oh yeah... no need to pop off the gears... the number is stamped on tehm... the 42T will have OK on it.. the 50T has a 50 molded in.. guess what the 60T has molded in it....

mysticmead
03-24-2009, 04:04 PM
you da man mystic.


no... I'm not da man... I know da man... but I'm not him...

but what da man taught me long ago was... life it to short to worry over everything...it's much more fun to slow down and enjoy it...

shaggybirdman
03-24-2009, 04:07 PM
i'll be able to see the numbers? i know about the molded in numbers. i just wasn't sure i could see them installed is all. is 1800 what i'm shooting for?

mysticmead
03-24-2009, 04:36 PM
what motor.. what battery? and 1800 is a number... might be what you're shooting for... might not... all depends on YOU... and what you expect.. I'm currently running around 2100... but was running 1800