Anyone actually using CC HV110 in Ion with Neu Motor?

[xlpro]

Is anyone actually using the CC110HV in an ION with Neu motor with sucess? If so I need help. What firmware and settings are you using. I have tried the 1.23 with softest start and gov hi setting only. I tried low gov but it would not spool up past 800 or so rpm.

It works but the gov takes over and goes to 100% throttle almost all of the time in a hover, the red light is on. I did not want to try the airplane mode (fixed) because of the kick at startup is too violent from what I understand. If anyone is using the 1.51 software what settings are they using and does it work? I am hitting 1990 on head speed with this setup. I pulled the throttle down to 65% and no change in head speed.

Help, I have a hacker on standby!!

Thanks for the help!

[EricLarson]

I know the one Bobby was running had a Hacker hooked to it. On 10s I have also used the hacker with good results with the 1521.

[skippy]

Don't have any experience with the CC but have over 35 hours on my Hacker-77 with Hacker and NEU motors. No problems and still going strong.

[WillJames]

OK... you asked for it.... Both B and me have been running or trying to run the 1521/CC-110...

I found AIR mode much better on teh 110 myself on 10s. All you do is run a linear 0-100 default T curve in Normal and move the stick up like you would a glow then hit the straight line Idle up curve at 100% once the head is up to speed. It is friggin monster, I went through a lot of counter gears with a G3 RX, Bobby had a lot more luck using a 149/319 RX in AIR mode with this combo.

Unfortunately once I flashed to 1.51 I toated a set of packs in 3-4 minutes and now I cannot use the castle-link software to see or re-program the ESC at all. Stick with the 1.23 software and you should be fine, it worked fine for over 20 flights then once I flashed... puff packs and no more link. Bobby has had trouble with the 1.51 firmware as well, I think he lost 2 sets of packs. :DOH

That is the honest and real deal no sugar coating and also no bashing. The CC110 is a great ESC for the $$ and I really hope CC gets it sorted, as I would like to go 12s without mortgaging my house to get a 12s ESC. In the mean time both B and me have reverted back to our "old faithful" 77-O-H ESC's and all is well.

[bob00]

I'm running the HV-110 with the Neu in one Ion and an Actro 32-3 in the other. Based on the experience of others I have avoided v1.51. v1.23 seems to work ok.

Like Will I run the ESC in AIR mode. I've also programmed a delay value of 20 on the throttle channel when switching flight modes (14mz Tx) - much less stressful on the drivetrain when going from NORM to IDLEUP. Haven't stripped any gears yet - maybe I'm not trying hard enough :).

- Rob

[WillJames]

Air mode with this setup is VERY strong. I should have listened to Rob when he told me to program in the delay. :arggg:

[xlpro]

Tried the 1.51 and seemed ok only in hover, Neu motor still getting hot though. Mongo you can't have your Hacker back now, am warming up the soldering iron as I type (hehe!!!)

Just used the fixed heli setting only. WillJames were you using gov hi mode in 1.51 or fixed heli?

Thanks

[WillJames]

Yes very latest download of castle link, still no-joy. Have to send back to CC talked to a technician the other day on the phone.

No need to hand spin the blades first, soft start works fine in AIR mode, but you can't just move the stick to half stick like you can in GOV mode or you will be doing piros on the ground. If you very slowly advance the throttle, the AIR mode is just as soft or softer start than a 77-O using a 0-25-50-75-100 T curve.

GOV High, but B was using Fixed Heli mode and got a CC engineer to guide him through setting it up without the blades on the heli and using ATV's etc. Keep a VERY close eye on your temps with 1.51, our stuff ran WAY hotter way faster than with the 77-O and it obviously overamped our packs as they puffed. We are running 5s1p packs though and from a few conversations with CC, they say that higher p packs may have faired a lot better than the 1p's, but you know how that goes... With 1.23 our temps were very low, comparable to the 77-O after 6 minute flights.

Here is some video of B's machine on 12s at Port Charlotte Event using the 1.23 software. http://www.helifreak.com/viewtopic.php?t=10892&highlight=ionx

[Laurens]

Powerjazz, 340 euro. www.heli-pro.de And I guess there are more adresses to get it from (hoellein or so).

[bob00]

Like Will posted, no need to hand spin the blades (the other guys at the field would prob. laugh themselves silly if I had to :) ) - I fly it just like a nitro heli, slowly advance the throttle to get the blades up to speed - spoolup is smooth and you should be at flying speed in under 10 seconds.

I also run my blades REAL tight (for hovering autos etc.) so this may help too.

I think some sort of delay when switching modes is almost a must - the first time I flipped to IDLEUP the instant burst of power looked like it was going to tear the airframe apart. With the delay the transition from 1450 - 1900 is about 1.5 - 2 secs, again, much like a nitro heli.

- R

[WillJames]

The delay sound great, I am going to implement that on my 32-3 Ion. Thank you!!

[JonMann]

bob00,

the delay doesn't really soften the "action" of throwing the switch does it?? it just delays it happening for "20". If you are in normal and at mid-stick and your throttle curve is at 50%, without the delay if you hit the switch you jump to whatever you idle-up throttle curve value is (in my case 100%). If you add the delay in your radio, all you change is this happening for "20" something, but the same thing happens, you switch the throttle from 50% to 100%. the delay in your radio won't cause it to go from 50% - 60% - 70% - 100% throttle will it? that would be really cool feature if it worked that way.

-jon

[JonMann]

mongo,

that is cool. I am using the 14mz and definitely going to play with that now.

thanks - jon

[bob00]

Hi Jon,

I'm using a 14mz - the delay feature is designed to smooth out the transition between flight conditions. If the throttle was say 40 in NORM and 80 in IDLEUP it goes 40...50...60...70...80 - takes about 2secs - very cool feature.

I'd strongly advise that you verify proper operation of this function with a digital servo plugged into the throttle channel as my Tx would sometimes initially spike to 100 during the transition - ie. 40.100..90..80..70..60..70..80 :!: :dontknow . I'm not sure which firmware update fixed this but it doesn't happen anymore.

- Rob

[JonMann]

bob00,

tested it last nite, works gret! this is a very cool feature, another one that makes me glad I invested in the 14mz. I do have the latest firmware on my 14.

I wonder if this will solve the problem Bobby and Will were having with the G3 receiver?

mongo, thanks as well.

Thanks again guys - jon

[bob00]

I wonder if this will solve the problem Bobby and Will were having with the G3 receiver?

Interesting thought - I've run only G3 Rx's in my Ions since switching to Futaba last spring without any problems, but Bobby and Will fly put way more time on their Ions than I do so based on their advice I am keeping an eye on things.

- R