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supertrex2
06-23-2006, 09:07 PM
For example, who needs an unobtanium main shaft that requires a second on my house? Give me a high quality steel one!!

lol... I hear ya!

Well Bob unfortunateyl I didnt get a chance to buy that 14MZ due to its already Sold when im about to order it. but its ok... My 9Z can manage.

Anyways.... you still havent told us what Motor, ESC servos your gonna use on the lepton?

If I dont have a part time Job theres no way I can afford this.

You have no Idea Bob whenever I crash and I have to explain my new Bills to my wife :cool: :lol:

She said might as well crash the trex450 but not that Hirobo !!!! lolzzz

3 Months on this hobby.

and already spend more than $5,780 all in all included Trex600, lepton. Trex450 9Z, servos battery etc...

I cant immagine how much you veterans already spent lolz....

Finless
06-23-2006, 09:13 PM
OK OK I will tell ya.

FOr now I am gong HS85 MG (metal gears) and later will go digital with the Airtronics 94761's but for video purposes am using a servo many may use and they are cheap.

I am going 4S setup with a Hyperion 3025-10 and an Align 75 ESC.
Tail will be a 401 gyro with 9650 (later a frame mode for 9253).
4S Light Storm 20C 3700 packs... MAN was that a hit to the credit card for 4 packs!

What else you want to know?

Personally I think this will be a HOT electric heli I dont care the cost. HELL I own a Vibe 90 so if your going to fly the BEST your going to have to go for it!!!!!

Now I with hold my final opinion of this machine once I fly it but I have a feeling the Trex MAY become 2nd choice when I fly.... We shall see.

Bob

Gazzer
06-23-2006, 11:46 PM
Laurens

I can't compare lipo to nitro though, I get far more flights per euro from one lipo then fuel.

Care to share the details of your calculation on this :?

TerryBelanger
06-24-2006, 11:30 PM
Gazzer,
Heli fuel is MUCH more expensive in some coutnries. Those countries are a big part of why electric copters are getting so popular.

Gazzer
06-26-2006, 12:02 AM
Gazzer,
Heli fuel is MUCH more expensive in some coutnries. Those countries are a big part of why electric copters are getting so popular.

Terry, I'm sure that fuel prices do vary considerably but I've yet to see a real world calculation, from any country, that proves conclusively that electric is indeed cheaper than nitro flight. I mean considering flight times etc.... which seems to be about one nitro flight time is equivalent to about 2 e-heli flights. As to the popularity of e-heli's. I fully understand the reason for the popularity of the mini e-helis...... they do have distinct adavantages being small, light, easy to carry, fly anyhere. What I have problems with is understanding the advantage of 50 class e-helis :?

Ultraviolet
06-30-2006, 01:21 AM
I fully understand the reason for the popularity of the mini e-helis...... they do have distinct adavantages being small, light, easy to carry, fly anyhere. What I have problems with is understanding the advantage of 50 class e-helis


AND cheap to crash !!!!

Anthing bigger than a T Rex will result in an empty wallet very quick.
Unless you are well off, a T Rex cannot be beat.

I also fly very confidently knowing my T Rex did not break the bank,
and not having to worry about crashing.

Finless has probably been through 100 K in helis, if not more.

:wink:

Finless
06-30-2006, 01:39 AM
Finless has probably been through 100 K in helis, if not more.


Nope but maybe around 20K....

Bob

Ultraviolet
07-01-2006, 03:08 PM
What about the cost of the freebies ? :)

WillJames
07-02-2006, 08:48 AM
Finless has probably been through 100 K in helis, if not more.


We are actively working on getting him more helis to do his excellent build vids on. Look for some more soon. ;)

The TREX can be cheap in stock form, or it can cost quite a bit when you doink your hopped up blinged out TREX, it is all in how you equip and fly them just like most other helis. Overall, I think E-Helis are a good bit more expensive than Nitro helis, although they are coming down as they get more and more popular.

Rockohaulic
07-06-2006, 05:08 PM
OK, I know this has been beat to death... :DH

But I just got back from my LHS and they had the Align Trex 600 there for $619. I thought well, $650 for the Lepton is in the ballpark. The Trex 600 is a bigger kit, but the Hirobo is higher quality. Blah blah blah.

Then I found out the Trex 600 kit for $619 comes with a motor and ESC/BEC!! :!:

What gives Hirobo!! :?: :?:

On top of that, Finless & others are saying that the Hirobo kit needs some work (bigger tail blades and tail fin to start), but the Trex 600 is fine right out of the box! What's wrong with this picture??

Heli Pod
07-10-2006, 11:54 PM
Check out Ebay! A few Hirobo Leptons bidding kinda low. Hmmmm......

Person
07-11-2006, 11:56 AM
Why is the lepton $650??

Well, not eveyone is selling the Lepton for $650. Ricks has them listed as $600, and Heliproz a little bit more than that.

I own a Lepton and now have 4-5 flights on it. Let me just say that it is an awesome little heli. My favorite in the fleet right now.

That being said, the Lepton is a tad over priced. I think that Ricks has it the right way for $600.

I almost feel robbed having preordered it and puting down a deposit only to have mine show up when everyone else got theirs and all retailers started carrying it for $50 less than what I paid.

DebianDog
07-11-2006, 02:29 PM
On top of that, Finless & others are saying that the Hirobo kit needs some work (bigger tail blades and tail fin to start), but the Trex 600 is fine right out of the box! What's wrong with this picture??

Align has deep pockets selling over 40,000+ T-Rex's and had the Szabos and Jason Kruase do the final test flights for it.

Just a guess :mrgreen:

Gscott
07-11-2006, 02:38 PM
On top of that, Finless & others are saying that the Hirobo kit needs some work (bigger tail blades and tail fin to start), but the Trex 600 is fine right out of the box! What's wrong with this picture??

The 600 is not without it's own issues. Take a look at the other forums and others have reported issues with the washout arms breaking, dampers not holding up for 3D, links being brittle, etc... No new heli is without issues.

Finless
07-11-2006, 05:34 PM
On top of that, Finless & others are saying that the Hirobo kit needs some work (bigger tail blades and tail fin to start), but the Trex 600 is fine right out of the box! What's wrong with this picture??

The 600 is not without it's own issues. Take a look at the other forums and others have reported issues with the washout arms breaking, dampers not holding up for 3D, links being brittle, etc... No new heli is without issues.

Yea I have seen the reports of the links breaking. I do as Align does think it is how the users are snapping them on! USE a ball link tool folks... I had no issues and used a tool for every link as i do with all my big helis. The 450SE gave people bad habits as those links can take abuse in how they are put on or removed.

I am not trying to say this is a PERFECT kit but I do believe after seeing 6 of these built that there is some user error here on these failures.

But bottom line after building and flying both what you are talking about here is different. I am saying the Trex600 is designed correct out of the box. The Lepton still needs some changes in DESIGN. e.g. The trex doesnt need new tail blades to hold the tail. The Lepton does. That was the intended point.

Bob

Gscott
07-11-2006, 07:40 PM
Bob,

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree because IMHO the 600 has one huge design flaw. The frames are too narrow to accept any motor except the Align. This really limits the power plant choices. I'd much rather have a kit were all I needed to do was add a pair of $10 tail blades.

Finless
07-11-2006, 08:06 PM
Hey understand for those wanting to try 10S or something but in my opinion thus far there is no need for another motor or combo. It was designed around this power plant and batt setup. For those that want to mess around with other motor and batt combo's then this heli isnt for you.

Again however that was not my point. The Trex comes DESIGNED to fly excellent out of the box with no design issues requiring users to have to go out and buy or tweak the thing, figure out where and what tail blades to get, and then have to figure out how to raise the bird up so the longer blades dont hit the ground. The stock blades almost hit the ground. So to do it right it is going to be a little more than just tail blades. So again my point is what is the best "out of the box" and sorry but the Trex is.

Dont get me wrong I love my Lepton and I will tweak it to get it better.... You wont see me selling mine off no way! It's a hot bird and with some minor little fixes will be even hotter.

Bob

pitounet
07-17-2006, 03:57 PM
In France A gallon of 25% worthes 50 US$ (the best price that i found)
In other words
- 1 Gallon = an affordable 3s Trex 450 pack
- 2 Gallons = 1 high end 4s Trex 450 pack
- 3 Gallons = 1 Lepton pack
- 4 Gallons = 1 Align trex 600 pack

I am not used to nitros so i don't know how long you will fly with a gallon, however my friend has a raptor 50 with an os 50 hyper. It is burning the fuel really quick. I suppose a 90 class is even worse. If you can have the same perfs with a smaller electric like the lepton then it might worth a try.
I however think the lepton is too expensive, the TREX 600 also to my taste (not the heli but the packs). I have a logo 10 but it is a bit too big for me. The lepton is the right size for an electric, but too expensive. If align came with a Trex the same size of the lepton, i would jump in immediately.