Why is all I can say

[Gscott]

I saw one crash at the Hirobo Cup. It went in hard enough that I heard over 30 yards away over the sound of a Raptor 90. The frame survived but the blades, tail boom, and main shaft did not. All in all not bad considering the impact.

[z11355]

it's an extremely rigid frame given the machine's overall weight.

remember, the crash forces are proportional to the mass so it's not suprising
that the frame & structure survived well.

[AlpineCH.21]

I know this is off topic..but should have bought a 600 :D

[Finless]

OK Nick.... stop hijacking threads with Align ads ;)

The Lepton is a great heli and you cant compare it to a 600 (it's apples and oranges). Sure it appears to have a tail problem (blade size) but nothing that cant be fixed easy. I am sure people will find a few flaws in the 600 over time as nothing is PERFECT.

Anyway, go spam the 600 forum I made for ya ;)

bob

[hellacool]

you tell'em Bob...http://www.outlawrc.com/smilie-sign022.gif..I dont think so Biotch lOL!! :lol:

[AlpineCH.21]

yeah yeah, but honestly what was hirobo thinking with that full size pitch slider...flimzy tail fin..and scrawney tail blades...come on hirobo, i know you just getting into this electric biz but dont cut yourself short and ruin your electric sides name.

[Learn to Fly]

Im a little bummed. Sure the heli is pretty, we all have come to that conclusion. BUT if it dont fly it aint worth crap!!! I tried the Trex tail blades yesterday, SAME FREE PIRO!!! But mine locks into nose in for some reason so I landed nose in AGAIN!!! this time I cracked the landing gear...I guess they are pretty tough I whacked it hard enough to bend the antena tube mounts. :dontknow I had the heli looked over by MANY folks and they said it was not a set up issue. :arggg:

Bummed in Ct. :bomb:

Jeff

[Gscott]

yeah yeah, but honestly what was hirobo thinking with that full size pitch slider...flimzy tail fin..and scrawney tail blades...come on hirobo, i know you just getting into this electric biz but dont cut yourself short and ruin your electric sides name.

And what was Align thinking releasing a heli that the swash separated on. Or how about main gears that don't resemble anything round. Or tail belts that break easily. Perhaps you care to explain why the SE has already had several tail issues that are forcing people to go to 3rd party solutions. Should I go on? The more I think about it the more a 600 size Align heli scares the crap out of me.

[SteveL]

Are you saying the tail won't even hold while hovering? You have another problem then.

BTW. People putting on a sales pitch for anything Align should remove the "what were you thinking from thier vocabulary" especailly when it comes to tail pitch sliders.

[hellacool]

Funny Steve LOL!! Hey Jeff I feel your pain brother. Im actually afraid to fly it now. I mean sure I can bring it into a hover but I want to let it rip and there is no way in hell that it can fly like that. You are right though...its not a setup issue just the way it is right now. And the trex blades wont fix the problem :arggg:

[Gscott]

I sent a link to this thread to Jeff Green at MRC. I'm sure he can provide a positive resolution.

[Finless]

I sent a link to this thread to Jeff Green at MRC. I'm sure he can provide a positive resolution.

Thanks for doing that. I certainly would like to hear his thoughts since he has been flying and testing for awhile now.

Bob

[Learn to Fly]

Mine will hover fine, and spools up very nice( sounds like a jet), and I can push it around a little...slowly, but as soon as I give it a pitch pump...forget it, it piros. I felt it was a very easy build too. Im paitent, but still bummed.

I will wait for the conclusion.

Another Jeff :D

[AlpineCH.21]

yeah yeah, but honestly what was hirobo thinking with that full size pitch slider...flimzy tail fin..and scrawney tail blades...come on hirobo, i know you just getting into this electric biz but dont cut yourself short and ruin your electric sides name.

And what was Align thinking releasing a heli that the swash separated on. Or how about main gears that don't resemble anything round. Or tail belts that break easily. Perhaps you care to explain why the SE has already had several tail issues that are forcing people to go to 3rd party solutions. Should I go on? The more I think about it the more a 600 size Align heli scares the crap out of me.

Yeah, but this is an engineering problem...at least the trex can perform and even if there is tail problem it can still hold in a punch out. And for the belt, maybe you need help with adjusting your belt tension, Ive never hada problem and neither have any of my buddies. Yeah the swash separated...but that was an easy fix. Not like they need to reevaluate the heli. I'm not trying to get into it on a fourm but honestly the lepton is having problems from the Get-Go.

[Gscott]

And the T-Rex didn't? Perhaps you need to go back and research the original T-Rex and then come back and speak intelligently. Give me a break. How many revisions before a swash that didn't separate was available? How exactly is this an engineering problem but Align's aren't? It's simply a matter of the included blades being too small for hard 3D. All it takes is a simple review of some of the other T-Rex forums to realize many will say the SE is not capable of hard 3D without a tail upgrade as well. At least with the Lepton it's only the blades and not the entire tail assembly that needs fixed :roll:

I haven't even gotten to the motors that separate or the ESC with heatsinks held on with double sided tape.

[AlpineCH.21]

oh give me a break...listen to you..Im sorry your the most intelligent person that flys heli's...maybe you should fix the problem yourself. This comming from Hirobo. They have engineers that get payed alot of money to design and test this stuff. They already had a name out there unlike align with there first heli, I would expect nothing but the best from Hirobo. Honestly heli critics have shreaded that heli apart. So how about you come back with an intelligent answere for this lepton problem. If not it might be an intelligent idea to not say anything at all...

[ethinger]

Alpine, you can only list 2 negative things about the lepton(which i agree)... haha cmon, u can get bigger tail fins, and also the bigger tail blades... how much is that gonna cost?
as for the Trex, I have one also, and there are alot of problems with it, BUT, if you do things such as locktite the whole heli, the next thing u know u can't get it out, you'll strip the screws... the full size pitch is MUCH better than what Align offers Imo.

[AlpineCH.21]

Well then you might need to watch Bob's locktite video...you dont need to glob the lock tight on there...lmao.

Besides the fins, whats up with the full size tail pitch slider, thats over kill. If i actually sat and thourly went over this heli I'm sure i could find more lol.

But my question...from a production standpoint, they got the tail blades wrong...how do you get those numbers wrong!? They should have asked you Bob :noteworthy

[buster1]

Guys, I don't like making any negative comments about a manufacturer - but the fact is - I bought a trex SE and had to spend another $300 to get it to fly the way I wanted for 3D - that is a good portion of the price of another kit.
I went to the Lepton for this reason and can live with a tail blade problem. All kits have issues - thats this hobby.
But to replace so many parts on the trex, because it didn't run true - that is a big issue for me.
You can defend a kit because you like flying it - but not becuase your ego tells you to do so and there were no problems. - you made the purchase, live with it!!

[Gscott]

Honestly heli critics have shreaded that heli apart. So how about you come back with an intelligent answere for this lepton problem. If not it might be an intelligent idea to not say anything at all...

Perhaps you would care to point out all these critics. I can just as easily point to the critics that have already ripped apart the 600 and it isn't even available yet. I guess you missed the simple solution that's already been covered...REPLACE THE TAIL BLADES FOR EXTREME 3D. Did you get it this time?

[Learn to Fly]

I made a set of blades out of another set I had. If they were balanced and true the tail will hold perfect( they are about 70mm). NO FREE PIRO. But I got a vibration since my skills at cutting tail blades are not up to par.http://www.helifreak.com/images/smiles/icon_eek.gif

So I am in search of blades since FX-AM is out of them.

How big are the Voyager tails?

Jeff

[Finless]

OK OK all... enough arguing about Hirobo vs Align. This is a Lepton thread can we keep it to that please.....
Thanks.

Bob

[hellacool]

I second that!! Just about all of us hear can tell you every nut, bolt, and resolution for the trex issues there is. This thread needs to stay on topic because I for one want to work together to get this thing setup perfect. The few of us that have this heli are paving the way for the rest of you (provided you get one in the future of course) to have a great heli. Therefore please refrain from mentioning the trex, align, helicopter company xyz, etc. unless it is to provide a solution for the current problem at hand. Once we get past this issue we can start to really use our new helis because I think this is the only problem I can really see at this time. My new kit just arrived today and I will have the repair done by tonight. The new extended tail fins showed up as well. I should have the venture blades by friday at the latest. However until Im for sure that it will work Im very afraid to try to fly it now. I've got some pretty big balls, but my pocket book cant take buying another kit since I just bought two in a week. So lets figure this thing out right!!!

[hellacool]

Hey Bob...the friend of yours that will be evaluating his lepton this weekend....what tail blades was he going to be bringing? I cant remember what you had said. Btw. I think those venture blades were something like 68-69mm. I may be wrong though. Even if they are not as long as 72mm if they are wider in the cord that could still help..right?

[Learn to Fly]

I got the Viper carbons from FX-AM. Its all I could find and I want to fly this beast!!! I think this will be the ONLY issue with this heli too. I put a spacer under my landing gear to raise up the back, it worked great. Mr Postman will be bringing me an envelope tomorrow, I will let you know how it goes.:glasses2:

Jeff