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bigrcr
06-24-2004, 08:23 PM
Vibration and crash damage at some point can cause the lower aluminum frame rails to break at the front skid mounting points. Many have had this problem in the past. I have seen X-Cell gas machines being flown with the front strut moved back along the lower frame rails to gain a new purchase on the rail for the bolts. In most cases the cracking is directly related to something out of balance or a very lean condition on the motor. The motor being lean will show in the front skids as a vibration and this will quickly fail the bottom rails at the strut mounting holes.

Normal wear and tear over time will also fail the lower rails. They are not expensive to replace, but a very good fix is to be pro-active and make a front frame brace much like the ones used in most X-Cell kits of the past. It is best to do this modification to a new or intact set of rails! :D

I happened to have (from my Pre-Preg days) a carbon plate from which I cut a bottom frame brace to span across the bottom frame rails at the forward LG strut position. This allows for the frames to be tied together and the front LG strut to bear it's forces against a very strong flat plate which greatly reduces stress on the bottom rails.

If you do not have a source for carbon plate, you can substituted some carbon from a broken set of side frames (carbon or G-10), some aluminum or whatever you may have handy.

BTW. Use extreme caution when cutting any carbon fiber. The dust from cutting or grinding is very harmful to breathe! Use a respirator when doing any carbon cutting/grinding.

Later! :glasses2:

Billme
06-24-2004, 11:41 PM
Thats a good tip..How about cutting me some out John, hehe

Bill

bigrcr
06-28-2004, 08:58 PM
As soon as I get the time Bill, you got it.

Later,

ImRich
06-28-2004, 09:53 PM
John,

This is a perfect place to mount a GV-1 magenetic sensor. Have you seen my document on how to use the Magento magnets to trigger the GV-1? :D

Actually, MinAir has a part number for a carbon fiber reinforcement which looks just like yours.

I made a couple out of some scrap frame materiel, they look funny, but work.

bigrcr
06-28-2004, 10:42 PM
Sure did..I tried that route, but had a few issues with it working. So I got a Stator Gator and haven't looked back since. I am glad you got yours to work, though. It is insight and ingenuity like yours that makes this hobby great!!

ImRich
06-28-2004, 10:44 PM
Hmm.. what issues?

Mine has been perfect so far.

Of course the stator gator is the easy way out! There's nothing to do! ;)

bigrcr
06-30-2004, 08:24 AM
I would get a signal one time and not the next. I worked on it for a good while and thought I had it and then would not get the signal again. Mounting at the time was iffy also.

ImRich
07-01-2004, 09:52 AM
Was probably your mounting then. I have a great signal and it's been consistant. I'm starting to get lazy in my old age!

By the way, look at my doc, I think the X-Cell part number for this bracket which you made it 106-66. But check it before you spend money on it.

bigrcr
07-01-2004, 02:12 PM
The 106-66 will fit only the width of the glow machine frames. The gas frame set is much wider at the bottom. Also, the plate I made is long enough to handle bolts through the skids and another set of bolts through the frame rails further back. This is what makes the rails stronger and keeps the front "ears" of the frame rails from cracking and breaking off.

:glasses:

ImRich
07-01-2004, 04:02 PM
I hadn't checked the width. Thanks!