START HERE |
|
Register | FAQ | PM | Events | Groups | Blogs | Calendar | Mark Forums Read |
Unregistered
|
Hurricane 200 Discussion and support of the Gaui Hurricane 200 |
|
LinkBack | Thread Tools | Display Modes |
09-30-2009, 12:38 PM | #1 (permalink) |
Registered Users
|
3d Gaui 200sd
I recieved a used Gaui Hurricane 200 last Friday, it came as receiver ready, 45hb cyclic, stock esc and motor, futaba 401 gyro and matching s3154 micro servo. It did not hover very nicely, so I put about 2 hours of setup into it. It now hovers nicely, and foward flight, I put it into idle up mode and go to do a flip and the motor seems to be really bogged when it hits negative pitch, and the tail almost blows out. My pitch ranges are -10 0 10 in idle up, is this too much pitch? I run a 2s lipo 800mah, but then when I put a 3s in it kicks butt, but then the esc shuts off after about 1 min of flying. How do I fix my problem? I bought this specifically for 3d in small spaces. Nick Maxwell does 3d in his garage on youtube, anyone know what his setup is? It originally had a belt drive but the belt snapped after 4 min of flight, so he included a shaft conversion and I like it but my crown gears are stripping pretty quickly. HELP-thanks Josh
__________________
T-rex 450 Pro- 5065mg, JR370g/3500g, stock esc and motor- 3s 2250mah Rhino 25c Rotormast V-22- Skorpion 2221-10, Ice 50, 5085mg, GY520- 4s 2200mah GensAce 30c |
Sponsored Links | |||
Advertisement |
|
09-30-2009, 06:41 PM | #2 (permalink) |
Registered Users
Join Date: Jun 2008
|
are you running flybar weights? I know that when I had the largest flybar weights on mine, it would bog quite a bit but then I put the smaller ones on and it didn't bog down, but now I have the smaller weights as well as a bigger pinion, still on 2s
__________________
Forza 450 |
09-30-2009, 08:01 PM | #3 (permalink) |
Registered Users
Thread Starter
|
So went to fly again today, piece of crap. I decided screw shaft driven I HATE it, I going to try belt tomarrow, if it still sucks then I going to sell this piece of crap. I run no weights on my flybar. I used a 25c 800mah 2s battery and it is ok, still horiible inverted, but then the e-flite batteries 8c 800mah 2s that was included with it suck ARSSS. I love my t-rex 450 so if I cannot get this thing flying correctly by end of weekend, bye bye guai 200 and hello t-rex 250se.
__________________
T-rex 450 Pro- 5065mg, JR370g/3500g, stock esc and motor- 3s 2250mah Rhino 25c Rotormast V-22- Skorpion 2221-10, Ice 50, 5085mg, GY520- 4s 2200mah GensAce 30c |
09-30-2009, 10:01 PM | #4 (permalink) |
Registered Users
Join Date: Feb 2009
|
I have zero experience with the shaft drive. My SE with 5600kv motor has decent power with crappy Flightmax batteries. It will flip, roll, loop go inverted. Not sure why yours is not responding well. What blades are you running? What pitch gauge did you use to set it up?
__________________
Ivan |
10-01-2009, 12:28 AM | #5 (permalink) |
Registered Users
Thread Starter
|
I am using an e-flite pitch gauge that fits the blades and I use it very successfully with my t-rex 450. I am running the stock long wood blades. The guy included 7 pairs of it with the kit. He also included one set of the plastic blades. I talked to a guy up where I fly who is almost a professional rc helicopter pilot and he said for this size helicopter carbon blades are a waste of money. He uses plastics blades and says they work fine, I havent used my plastic blades because they are like 2 times more flexible than the wood blades. Is the plastic better than the wood for 3d? I am really thinking of trashing this helicopter and saving for a t-rex 250 unless this little guy starts to straighten up.
__________________
T-rex 450 Pro- 5065mg, JR370g/3500g, stock esc and motor- 3s 2250mah Rhino 25c Rotormast V-22- Skorpion 2221-10, Ice 50, 5085mg, GY520- 4s 2200mah GensAce 30c |
10-01-2009, 02:25 AM | #6 (permalink) |
Registered Users
|
It sounds like you have more negative pitch dialed in than positive. I'd double check to make sure you are really at 0 pitch at mid stick.
The cf blades on this heli do perform much better for 3-D than the plastic blades and they don't feel near as "spongy". The plastic blades will take a real beating, but if you don't crash often, the trade off isn't worth it imo. Can't comment on the wooden blades as i've never flown them. For $10 - $14 for cf blades, to me, it's well worth the investment and not a waste of money at all. I've spent some time flying the trex 250 and gaui 200 pretty hard.. and when set up correctly, they fly almost identical with the same blades and power setups - very hard to even tell the difference between the two helis so don't believe too much of the grass is greener hype. |
10-01-2009, 02:49 AM | #7 (permalink) |
Registered Users
Join Date: Dec 2006
|
If you want to go 3S then replace the 15 tooth pinion with a 10 tooth one and the esc should cope then, less load as rpms will now be approx the same but on 3S you should have less bogging.
On shaft drive, you are stuck with little pinion choice so you can get a zpower 3300kv motor from flying-hobby and use the std 15/9 pinion and use 3S
__________________
DX7 Mode-1 | 450 pro 6s | 450 pro | Schweizer 300C Gasser Scale | T-Rex550e | Aeolus 50 | HeliX T-Rex700 fbl Gasser | HWC600 Gasser | Henseleit MPXLe | Henseleit 3DNT | Suzi-Janis 700 | Gaui NX4 | Gaui X5 | Blade 350QX |
10-01-2009, 09:22 AM | #8 (permalink) |
Registered Users
Thread Starter
|
Well I decided to ditch the shaft drive. The one thing I CANNOT STAND about the gaui 200 is the tail boom clamb. If you tighten just slightly too much it strips it out, so if I decide to keep it I am going to get the cnc boom mount. I am running the tail belt now, and get back this afternoon to tell you guys how it runs. The wood blades seem a lot stiffer than the plastic. I am running -10=0=10 pitches +-1 pitch because my pitch gauage a little big so its hard to get it exact.
__________________
T-rex 450 Pro- 5065mg, JR370g/3500g, stock esc and motor- 3s 2250mah Rhino 25c Rotormast V-22- Skorpion 2221-10, Ice 50, 5085mg, GY520- 4s 2200mah GensAce 30c |
10-01-2009, 11:54 AM | #9 (permalink) |
Registered Users
Thread Starter
|
So I decided I need to upscale not downscale, with the belt it flies much nicer! It is actually pretty good, but I want a 500. It is now up for sale in the electric helis for sale section
__________________
T-rex 450 Pro- 5065mg, JR370g/3500g, stock esc and motor- 3s 2250mah Rhino 25c Rotormast V-22- Skorpion 2221-10, Ice 50, 5085mg, GY520- 4s 2200mah GensAce 30c |
10-01-2009, 01:23 PM | #10 (permalink) |
Registered Users
Join Date: Apr 2004
|
You got off on the wrong foot.
You didn't say if it was a V1 or a V2. Original Gaui motor or something else. Plugging a 3S in to a heli with 15 tooth pinion and then trying to throttle it back will cause the ESC to shut down. Especially if it is the original 12 amp ESC. The plastic blades didn't help. They have too much drag. Changing to the belt drive was a good move. |
10-01-2009, 01:32 PM | #11 (permalink) |
Registered Users
Thread Starter
|
I think it is the v1, dont know bought it used. It has all metal head and tail, its original motor and esc, no throttle back or anything, I just dont like the 2s setup, I would much rather prefer 3s.
__________________
T-rex 450 Pro- 5065mg, JR370g/3500g, stock esc and motor- 3s 2250mah Rhino 25c Rotormast V-22- Skorpion 2221-10, Ice 50, 5085mg, GY520- 4s 2200mah GensAce 30c |
10-01-2009, 01:38 PM | #12 (permalink) |
Registered Users
Join Date: Apr 2004
|
No throttle back? Man that thing must have been screaming!
We also prefer the 3S set up on a belt system. But to do it well you need a 10 tooth pinion and the new Gaui motor and a good 3S pack. Wood or CF blades will also be good for additional performance. |
10-01-2009, 02:00 PM | #13 (permalink) |
Registered Users
Thread Starter
|
well I don't want to spend anymore money on this heli so I selling it and yes it was screaming but still couldn't go inverted well
__________________
T-rex 450 Pro- 5065mg, JR370g/3500g, stock esc and motor- 3s 2250mah Rhino 25c Rotormast V-22- Skorpion 2221-10, Ice 50, 5085mg, GY520- 4s 2200mah GensAce 30c |
10-01-2009, 02:27 PM | #14 (permalink) |
Registered Users
Join Date: Apr 2004
|
I understand the frustration. We could have fixed it.
There are many videos of the 200 floating around. It does pretty well |
10-01-2009, 03:19 PM | #15 (permalink) |
Registered Users
|
I don't fly 3D, but meeny people do it very well with this little heli, with stock setup also.
|
10-02-2009, 06:43 PM | #16 (permalink) |
Registered Users
Thread Starter
|
So good news, I am having a little more hope in the gaui 200, I took the shaft conversion that was included in the extra parts, took the metal piece that the vertical stabilizer and the tail case connects to, I took that off and replaced it with one of the plastic tail holders. The tail is finally not moving anymore, and the belt stays tight! I went to fly it today, with wood blades, it flew good, could go inverted, got the gain as high as possible without wag, but on full collective both positive and negative, the tail drifts badly. If I give full collective then th tail drifts about half a rotation in 1 second. I thought I had too much pitch so I lowered the pitch but no matter how much I lower the pitch, it still drifts, or it just wont takeoff. HELP
__________________
T-rex 450 Pro- 5065mg, JR370g/3500g, stock esc and motor- 3s 2250mah Rhino 25c Rotormast V-22- Skorpion 2221-10, Ice 50, 5085mg, GY520- 4s 2200mah GensAce 30c |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|