What do I need to know about the CB100?

[djbgolf]

I am planing to buy the Walkera CB100. To me it seems to be one of the best and easiest single rotor micro helis on the market. I assume that the CB100 is collective pitch. Are there any upgrades I should buy to improve performance and durability? Any information and suggests would be great.

Thanks.

[KCMike]

I believe the CB100 is Fixed Pitch. I've read a little bit about them and so far it seems to be getting solid feedback.

[Steve Joblin]

The CB100 has indeed been getting great reviews. I obviously am partial to it over the mSR as I am a big Walkrea fan. Nine Eagles is currently releasing the Solo Pro which seems to also be a competitor to these two... The Nine Eagles is less expensive and ncludes a wall charger and an aluminum case.

[rcflyair]

I got one in the mail last Monday and its been great so far! Mine came from WowHobbies with an extra set of main blades and tail blades, which I haven't needed yet. I would definitely get some extra batteries and it would be nice to be able to charge more than one battery at a time with just the stock charger.

I have bonked it a few times - nothing serious. The only damage on the worst bonk was that a tail motor wire came un-soldered right at the motor. I re-attached it. Flies about 5 or 6 minutes on the WowHobbies 450mAh pack and about 6 or 7 on the stock Walkera 500mAh pack. Its a little lighter with the smaller pack and I like them better...

I've only got an hour or two on it so far, but I'd give it a cautious recommendation

rcflyair

[rcflyair]

Now that I'm thinking about it, I thought I better mention some of the stuff I don't like about the little bugger!

The spool up is not what I'd like. First I turn on the transmitter, and then I have about ten seconds to plug in the flight battery. If I take to long, I have to start over. Once the battery is plugged in, I wait until the transmitter finishes its startup stuff and beeps, then a few second later (after it binds, I guess), the main motor ESC arms and beeps. Now I set the heli down and gradually ease in some throttle. At about 1/4 throttle, the tail motor ESC arms and beeps, then just a bit more throttle and ZOOM off goes the main motor, and not slow - TOO FAST. There is not much of a soft start and unless I do it just exactly and precisely just so, the heli spins around counter clockwise when I spin it up. Oh, well, I just have got used to it - but it makes gentle take-offs off the coffee table dangerous. I need a smooth surface or it will catch and tip over....

The stock connectors aren't very good. They are VERY tight when new, and I had to get pliers out to unplug them at first. They're loosening up some now.

Its a little heavy for its size. Mine was at 52 grams without battery stock. I re-did the main motor wiring and eliminated the main motor connector and have it down to 50 grams now. Overall, the stock wiring wasn't all that impressive. It was correct and worked but a little heavy and clumsy for my likes.....

Thats about it for now - overall its not bad as long as you know what to expect from a FP motor driven tail heli.....

[ehirobo]

Ya, the stock walkera connectors are not very good and you should replace it with mirco deans as you will get long flight time and more power. For binding try to connect the battery to the heli first. Then turn on the tx. The heli will not arm until it got signal from the tx. This method is much quicker but becareful do not arm 2 walkera heli at the same time.

Happy flying!

[djbgolf]

I still can't figure out if the CB100 is a fixed or collective pitched heli. Secondly, what would be simliar heli in size and performance when compared to the CB100 as a second option? Any suggestions would be appreciated.

[Steve Joblin]

The CB100 is a fixed pitch. I am 10000000% confident.

The CB100 is comparable to the eFlight mSR and the Nine Eagles Solo PRO.

Similar to the CB100, but a bit more difficult, is the classic Walkera 4#3B. The CB100 is about the same size as the Walkera 4#3B, but the CB100 has an offset flybar that makes it much more stable.

[djbgolf]

Thank you!

[PittJitsu]

The CB100 is a fixed pitch. I am 10000000% confident.

The CB100 is comparable to the eFlight mSR and the Nine Eagles Solo PRO.

Similar to the CB100, but a bit more difficult, is the classic Walkera 4#3B. The CB100 is about the same size as the Walkera 4#3B, but the CB100 has an offset flybar that makes it much more stable.

Steve is correct as usual. It is a FP.

[djbgolf]

Hi Steve,

My son and I are moving up from the E-Flite CX2/3 models. We wanted to stay with a small heli that we could fly in our large basement. On paper, I very impressed with the CB100 and it's brushless motor set-up. Compared to the E-Flite MSR, would you still go with the CB100? Is the CB100 easier to fly?

[Steve Joblin]

Unfortunately, I need to complicate matters a bit for you, djbgolf.

Nine Eagles Solo Pro II is getting rave reviews and should also be considered in your analysis.

Everyone will have their opinions, but here is how I see things:

mSR: Easy to get parts for at your local hobby shop (if your lhs carries them, that is). Easy to fly... actually, very easy to fly... lots of fun, but it you are looking to develop "skills", you may find you will get bored quickly.

Nine Eagles: Solid, well built, and most economical. Clubheli for example, has a super deluxe package for just $140. Some say the forward flight is a bit better than the mSR, but I think it is still a bit too early to tell for sure.

Walkera CB100: A tinkerer's delight! Lots of fun if you enjoy both flying and "tuning" the heli. Of the three, probably the most challenging to fly (but they are all "easy" to fly). Folks (including me) that like Walkera have a very strong "cult-like" addiction and loyalty to them.

Personally, I would go either CB100 if you like to "tinker" or Nine Eagles if you don't.

[djbgolf]

Awesome! Thanks for your help. "Santa" now needs to find a dealer on-line.

[PittJitsu]

Unfortunately, I need to complicate matters a bit for you, djbgolf.

Nine Eagles Solo Pro II is getting rave reviews and should also be considered in your analysis.

Everyone will have their opinions, but here is how I see things:

mSR: Easy to get parts for at your local hobby shop (if your lhs carries them, that is). Easy to fly... actually, very easy to fly... lots of fun, but it you are looking to develop "skills", you may find you will get bored quickly.

Nine Eagles: Solid, well built, and most economical. Clubheli for example, has a super deluxe package for just $140. Some say the forward flight is a bit better than the mSR, but I think it is still a bit too early to tell for sure.

Walkera CB100: A tinkerer's delight! Lots of fun if you enjoy both flying and "tuning" the heli. Of the three, probably the most challenging to fly (but they are all "easy" to fly). Folks (including me) that like Walkera have a very strong "cult-like" addiction and loyalty to them.

Personally, I would go either CB100 if you like to "tinker" or Nine Eagles if you don't.

+1 I agree completely. :thumbup:

[Steve Joblin]

Awesome! Thanks for your help. "Santa" now needs to find a dealer on-line.

Closest on-line dealer that carries both would be ClubHeli.com in Pennslyvania.

[gamjamm]

Now that I'm thinking about it, I thought I better mention some of the stuff I don't like about the little bugger!

The spool up is not what I'd like. First I turn on the transmitter, and then I have about ten seconds to plug in the flight battery. If I take to long, I have to start over. Once the battery is plugged in, I wait until the transmitter finishes its startup stuff and beeps, then a few second later (after it binds, I guess), the main motor ESC arms and beeps. Now I set the heli down and gradually ease in some throttle. At about 1/4 throttle, the tail motor ESC arms and beeps, then just a bit more throttle and ZOOM off goes the main motor, and not slow - TOO FAST. There is not much of a soft start and unless I do it just exactly and precisely just so, the heli spins around counter clockwise when I spin it up. Oh, well, I just have got used to it - but it makes gentle take-offs off the coffee table dangerous. I need a smooth surface or it will catch and tip over....

The stock connectors aren't very good. They are VERY tight when new, and I had to get pliers out to unplug them at first. They're loosening up some now.

Its a little heavy for its size. Mine was at 52 grams without battery stock. I re-did the main motor wiring and eliminated the main motor connector and have it down to 50 grams now. Overall, the stock wiring wasn't all that impressive. It was correct and worked but a little heavy and clumsy for my likes.....

Thats about it for now - overall its not bad as long as you know what to expect from a FP motor driven tail heli.....
I also found the stock walkera batt. connectors a pain at first but they do loosen after some use.Micro-Deans connectors are best though. You can "manually" start the connection being careful to not let the prongs touch so all you have to do is push it together after you turn the TX on. The LG can be replaced with a taller one from one of the other walkera models-can't remember which,sorry.Thanks for the tip on how to get the weight down. A lot of cb100 users report the spinning around on spool-up. Try this: Use right rudder and forward cyclic. "Burp" the throttle a little to "wake" up the tail rotor. The right rudder helps offset the spin when it does engage. The forward cyclic prop wash seems to get the tail to respond faster. The "burp" surges the tail-rotor into action. Then just go from there. The hobby city 2g tail motors are a "stock" replacement and users say respond a little better than the walkera 2g. They also cost MUCH less and no weight gain unlike the 2.9g upgrade. I must say this heli can take a good lickin and keep on tickin as long as I get off the power fast and just let it drop. Don't and you'll lose blades,main gear tooth/teeth or worse. I smacked the wall pretty hard and it was no worse for wear but I shut it down before impact.

[shaggybirdman]

well i'll put it this way. in my micro helis i had a mcx, msr, cb100, and a 4g6. when i first got my msr it felt WAY to stable, and too easy to fly. i then got my cb100, and 2 weeks later i decided it had to go. not that the msr is bad, but far from the heli i wanted. i wanted something to keep me learning, so when the good weather comes again i'll just hopfully be able to do nose in with my trex 450, and hurricane 550. the msr in my opinion would not help me keep learning.

extra parts would be:
main blades
lots of batteries i tend to fly 10+ when i fly.
micro deans plugs

if you have a computer charger either make, or buy a multiple battery balance plug. between the 3 chargers i have i can charge 8 batteries at once.

my cb100 takes just as much abuse as my mcx, and msr will take. the added plus is that the cb100 looks like a larger heli, and in my opinion it flies like my 450 does.

bottom line? just get the cb100. trust me you will love it.

Jerry

[Silverexpress01]

Unfortunately, I need to complicate matters a bit for you, djbgolf.

Nine Eagles Solo Pro II is getting rave reviews and should also be considered in your analysis.

Everyone will have their opinions, but here is how I see things:

mSR: Easy to get parts for at your local hobby shop (if your lhs carries them, that is). Easy to fly... actually, very easy to fly... lots of fun, but it you are looking to develop "skills", you may find you will get bored quickly.

Nine Eagles: Solid, well built, and most economical. Clubheli for example, has a super deluxe package for just $140. Some say the forward flight is a bit better than the mSR, but I think it is still a bit too early to tell for sure.

Walkera CB100: A tinkerer's delight! Lots of fun if you enjoy both flying and "tuning" the heli. Of the three, probably the most challenging to fly (but they are all "easy" to fly). Folks (including me) that like Walkera have a very strong "cult-like" addiction and loyalty to them.

Personally, I would go either CB100 if you like to "tinker" or Nine Eagles if you don't.

OP! You will be much happier if you get all three or else if you get only one you will forever be wondering what the others are really like.