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rceccleston
04-07-2010, 09:40 AM
Hi guys, also ordered 4 of the 35c turnigys and my scorpion 630 kv has just arrived in the post! Feel like it's Xmas !! All be it an expensive one, when I get my ice 80 hv can someone point me in the right direction to setting it up please, will I need the link cable for the pc for first set up? Thanks tony.
Yes, you'll need a Castle Link cable to setup the esc with ease and upgrade the firmware.

tonyblade
04-07-2010, 09:48 AM
Thanks mr eccleston :thumbup: something else from fa t lad! He must love me! Tony.

P.I.Engineer
04-07-2010, 02:04 PM
Which anderson power poles should I order?

What gage is the wire on the cc hv85 and what gage is the wire on the turnigy 30c 6s 3000 packs?

I don't have any batteries yet, and i'm not at home to see what size the esc wires are.

Also will i need to get motor/esc bullets? What should I get, where should i get them.

thanks a lot guys

jones007
04-07-2010, 03:52 PM
Which anderson power poles should I order?

What gage is the wire on the cc hv85 and what gage is the wire on the turnigy 30c 6s 3000 packs?

I don't have any batteries yet, and i'm not at home to see what size the esc wires are.

Also will i need to get motor/esc bullets? What should I get, where should i get them.

thanks a lot guys

HV85 has 10AWG. Not sure about Turnigy - most likely smaller.

--Kevin

rceccleston
04-07-2010, 04:43 PM
Which anderson power poles should I order?

What gage is the wire on the cc hv85 and what gage is the wire on the turnigy 30c 6s 3000 packs?

I don't have any batteries yet, and i'm not at home to see what size the esc wires are.

Also will i need to get motor/esc bullets? What should I get, where should i get them.

thanks a lot guys
Recommend 5.5mm bullets all round due to the 10 gauge wire on both the Castle Creations esc and Turnigy packs.

meatbob
04-07-2010, 06:07 PM
The Turnigy packs ship with 4mm bullets however. I just received 4 of the 35C 3000 packs, and I've decided to just use them for now. I built a series plug that has 4mm bullets on the battery ends and 5.5mm bullets on the ESC end.

tonyblade
04-08-2010, 03:50 AM
Hi rc., can I ask you about charging the lipos when they arrive, at the moment I charge my 6s on a graupner ultra duo 50, you mentioned in your previouse threads that you charge them both as a single 12s pack on 2 Hyperions, I can only do up to 8s on mine, so all I can do is charge the 3.0 turnigys both at the same time on my dual output but as a 6s. This should be ok shouldent it? Or is there some other means of doing it as a 12s? Just recently spent 350 on the duo 50 and a 60 amp power supply so buying another charger is not an option. Thanks tony.

sambest
04-08-2010, 05:33 AM
anyone try 4035-560KV or 4035-500KV with 12th pinion 115T mode1, planning to use either of this motor?i want power more than flight time 4min is enough for me and planning to used 3300mah 30C lipo...

rceccleston
04-08-2010, 12:57 PM
The Turnigy packs ship with 4mm bullets however. I just received 4 of the 35C 3000 packs, and I've decided to just use them for now. I built a series plug that has 4mm bullets on the battery ends and 5.5mm bullets on the ESC end.
To remove the additional connections a 'y' harness produces, recommend removing the red plastic housing, to expose the 4mm bullets and cover in heat shrink. When not in flight, use the red plastic housing to cover the male bullet.

This will allow the packs to be connected in series as pictured on the first page. :thumbup:

rceccleston
04-08-2010, 01:02 PM
Hi rc., can I ask you about charging the lipos when they arrive, at the moment I charge my 6s on a graupner ultra duo 50, you mentioned in your previouse threads that you charge them both as a single 12s pack on 2 Hyperions, I can only do up to 8s on mine, so all I can do is charge the 3.0 turnigys both at the same time on my dual output but as a 6s. This should be ok shouldent it? Or is there some other means of doing it as a 12s? Just recently spent 350 on the duo 50 and a 60 amp power supply so buying another charger is not an option. Thanks tony.

Not familiar with your charger, but wouldn't recommend charging any packs in parallel, if you would like them to last approximately 100 flights.

While it will take twice as long, recommend charging each pack individually, if you have a single 8s charger.

ady
04-08-2010, 01:39 PM
evening all , just to be different , i`m tryin low headspeed flights , first today with flybar , 6min used 1300mha at 65% throttle , and nothing was hot either , couldn`t go lower cos of head wobble on heli not me , so have re-fitted my 3G head with no 3g unit cos thats gone to align , but had major tracking problems , will pick some bearings up tomorrow n try again , but did manage to get the throttle down to 45% with no heat or wobble , plus flew this heli today , its a replica of our air ambulance , and its BIG with a petrol engine , 4 blade head , tail lacked but it was only its first circuit , will be flown during the year at events to raise money for the real thing

ady
04-08-2010, 02:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25R50qYL0QI not a 12s heli but i flew it and i gotta 12s rex ;)

zen97713@zen.co.uk
04-09-2010, 05:57 AM
Hi guys I have built a 12s 600esp thanks to the info on this thread. I am running a 4025-630kv with a 13t pinion running fixed endpoints with a 95% throttle.

I am happy with the headspeed but want to try the govenor mode to make the headspeed a bit more consistent. Can someone share their castle creations esc settings with me so I can give it a try? I know thus will be at the expense of battery life but want to see what it is like :) . To be honest I really need to get some turnigys as my current 3000mah 6s packs are a bit tired which I bet us the reason for the loss of head speed and slight bogging.

ady
04-09-2010, 06:38 AM
you1ll find the 85HV settings on this thread several times , but as i have the same as you , except batts , i think thats all you need , i use 35/45c turnigys and they don`t bog at all even with my thumbs

caralmar
04-09-2010, 09:19 AM
you1ll find the 85HV settings on this thread several times , but as i have the same as you , except batts , i think thats all you need , i use 35/45c turnigys and they don`t bog at all even with my thumbs

I use the same packs. They make all the difference! Before I got my packs, I tried my 12s setup using my 500ESP packs (20C 3000mAh packs) and had bogging and low headspeed. Those packs were quite tired too. Changed over to the 35C packs and its a new monster bird!

jacobmarble
04-09-2010, 12:18 PM
I use the same packs. They make all the difference! Before I got my packs, I tried my 12s setup using my 500ESP packs (20C 3000mAh packs) and had bogging and low headspeed. Those packs were quite tired too. Changed over to the 35C packs and its a new monster bird!

I'm going to share (carefully) 40C Turnigy packs between my 500 ESP and 600E on 12s. The 40C packs can charge at up to 5C, which would be a dream.

I know they're hard to get, as I've been waiting for almost a month for the 40C 3000mAh packs to be restocked. No one on this thread seems to be using 40C Turnigy/Flightmax packs, can someone enlighten me?

ady
04-09-2010, 12:25 PM
i`m down to a 40% throttle level , sits in a hover nicely and the cyclics still work , will go to the field to find the optimum lowest point flyable , no heat in either in any thing :)

rceccleston
04-09-2010, 12:57 PM
I'm going to share (carefully) 40C Turnigy packs between my 500 ESP and 600E on 12s. The 40C packs can charge at up to 5C, which would be a dream.

I know they're hard to get, as I've been waiting for almost a month for the 40C 3000mAh packs to be restocked. No one on this thread seems to be using 40C Turnigy/Flightmax packs, can someone enlighten me?
Basically, the additional weight would make the heli nose heavy, cost alot more than 30c packs and wouldn't really benefit a 12s setup.

jacobmarble
04-09-2010, 01:14 PM
Basically, the additional weight would make the heli nose heavy, cost alot more than 30c packs and wouldn't really benefit a 12s setup.

6s 3000mAh Turnigy:
at 30C = 507g, $49.31, 3C charge
at 35C = 514g, $59.73, 2C charge
at 40C = 522g, $58.10, 5C charge

I think I can live with these differences in price and weight, given the shorter charge times. Are there other reasons?

rceccleston
04-09-2010, 01:25 PM
6s 3000mAh Turnigy:
at 30C = 507g, $49.31, 3C charge
at 35C = 514g, $59.73, 2C charge
at 40C = 522g, $58.10, 5C charge

I think I can live with these differences in price and weight, given the shorter charge times. Are there other reasons?
Ye, a T-Rex 500 is nose heavy with 3000Mah 30c packs and a DS8900G on the tail, but that's a question for the T-500 threads.

More weight equals less power regardless of the scale.

zen97713@zen.co.uk
04-09-2010, 01:26 PM
Ok I wil get the 35c turnigy when they come back in stock :)

Can I ask do you guys lube the bearings in your 4025 or 4035 scorpion motors? I used to do it for my scorpion in the 500. How long do the bearings last with or without oiling?

rceccleston
04-09-2010, 01:32 PM
Ok I wil get the 35c turnigy when they come back in stock :)

Can I ask do you guys lube the bearings in your 4025 or 4035 scorpion motors? I used to do it for my scorpion in the 500. How long do the bearings last with or without oiling?
Still running the original bearings, with over 300 flights, using the Scorpion lubricant.

twistedgrim
04-09-2010, 02:27 PM
My ATOM 500 balances perfectly with my 6s 30C 3000 packs. they are Perfect for it and give great power. I expect the 600E with 12s 30C will be just fine.

ady
04-10-2010, 04:52 PM
2 more fantastic flights , this time FBL but without electronics , all i`ll say is BRILLIANT , and i now realise how restrictive the 3G is , this beast is like a rex 500 on a 2500 headspeed , roll rate , flip rate and general blast about rate was ballistic , used 2200 each 6min flight , which now seems the norm . only thing was near the end of flight 2 while doing a piro wall or death drop thing , don`t know correct name , but i stick heli on its side at a high altitude , and piro very fast and let her drop very fast , but as she fell and i pulled out , the tail gears stipped and she kept spinning fast , so hit throttle hold and got her down after a spinning auto , but she fell over and bust the blades at a near zero headspeed :arggg: oh well , crash number 123456 this year and i love it :thumbup:

meatbob
04-10-2010, 05:09 PM
After lurking on this thread for about two months, I'd like to offer thanks to rceccleston and the others for showing how easy a 12S 600 setup really is. I just put two sets of packs through my new 600 ESP in FFF and basic aerobatics, and I must say "WOW". The reserve power is nothing short of overwhelming. I'm coming from a .50-powered Century Falcon, and the quiet flight belies the strength of this combination. My wife even noticed that the heli does not really need to "wind up" to tap into the excess power; this has been a behavior I've associated with nitro birds when the engine might not be optimally tuned.

I have a 600 ESP, with CC 110HV, CC BEC Pro, 4025-630, and 35C 3000 mAh Turnigy packs. I'm using the Align GP780 (for now), and have noticed that this gyro likes higher headspeeds. Down the road, I may get a Skookum to achieve the FBL configuration. I have DS610s on the cyclics, and a DS650 on the tail. The ESP was purchased from Kirk at PerformancePlusRC, who was very accommodating in providing the exact kit I needed to achieve this.

Thanks for continuing my addiction! :)