CP or not to CP

[EdgeCrusher]

Hello guys,

I have come to a decision point, and i would like some advice. Ive really started flying helis about a month ago. It has been a very enjoyable experience. I'm usually hit RFG3 for a good hour+ a day practicing. Just cant seem to get away from it. In the last week or so Ive come to the point where im ready to move on from fast forward flight, and basic maneuvering. My question to you guys is. Ive seem to have alot of trouble with my blade cp to keep it flying at a respectable level. It seems to me that i spend more time fighting it then i do enjoying it now that i have made it past, what i would call basics. Is it worth my money to invest into this Heli and purchase what is necessary to make a 3D beginner or can my money be spent better elsewhere?

its been almost overwhelming the last few days trying to take in all the new information about building flying advanced helis so i would really appreciate any advice you are willing to give!!!

Thanks much

[Blade Ruiner]

I'm no expert (by a long shot) but I've played with Realfight G3 and also a Blade CX for quite a while. I can even flip into inverted flight in G3 and "survive" for a short time and then flip back to normal flight. For some silly reason though, I can't handle "nose-in" hovering on the real thing. I was told the Blade CP was the "next step" but after literally destroying 2 of them so far (hence my user name) I have to say there is nothing in G3 that flies anything like flying a real Blade CP, standard version or Pro. They are NOT beginner helis in my opinion. I've heard a lot of others say the same thing. I do think they are good little helis though and worth investing in. I'm not giving up on mine (not yet anyway). You didn't mention if you had the standard CP or Pro. If you have the Pro, you might consider getting the G90 heading hold gyro. It made a huge difference for me. Unfortunately, it still couldn't save my heli from a bad pilot. :roll:

By the way, the one I wrecked (badly) today was a brand new CP Pro with the G90 HH gyro. Ouch! I'm glad I have an understanding wife! :mrgreen:

[steve28]

your money is best spent on a T-rex 450 SE or some variant XL, CDE, or SA

the Blade CP is not all that easy to fly , its tougher than my T-REX SE . you can get an Align T-REX SA for 199 . its incomplete and you need a radio too , altogether it might cost 800 - 850 , but it will be the best heli you have ever had , and it will welcome you to the real world of helis , Blade CP's are fun but they are nothing compared to a T-REX , plus they are cheaper to repair after a crash than your BCP . getting a T-REX with a heading lock gyro ( futaba 401 ) and a real programmable radio will give you great satisfaction , more than your BCP can do .

[kenandmoose2]

I couldn't agree more with steve28

[EdgeCrusher]

Thanks alot guys.

I do believe i will take my loss on my 2 CP's and start fresh. After seeing some videos and pictures of the T-REX i have to say the quality looks superior to a large majority of electric helis and they seem to preform very well. I think that would be a better fit for me.


IF anyone is interested in 2cp's both are hurt and about half a hobby store of new in package replacement parts PM me or let me know.. I have everything and then some if your a cp die-hard!

[steve28]

one more thing your T-REX will impress more people than your BCP ever will .

Ive had people see my BCP and say " hey thats neato "
Ive had people see my T-REX and usually their jaws drop , they say "does that run on gas " " wow what is that thing " , I tell them its a prototype drone made by NASA to be used in I-RAQ , they gave me one to test out , :smokin: hehe

[Skiddz]

I've got a well modified CP and the Trex 450SE. COMPLETELY different animals. The CP requires a LOT more effort to fly than the Rexy. The Trex is SO much smoother and more stable I haven't flown my CP in a couple months - hell, I may just sell it so I can finish my Trex 600. :)

[EdgeCrusher]

I put a fresh pack on the heli and tried to hover it indoors to see if it was still acting up. Im pretty sure the 4-n-1 is toast which makes me pretty upset cause its never been remotely stressed. hope to be in a new ride shortly!

[Rick Rotorhead]

I agree that the Blade CP is no walk in the park. I have a Twister CP, which is a near identical BCP clone. Hovering requires constant corrections and it is prone to very sudden altitude changes. Of course it does fly, and if you are quick and accurate on the sticks it can be buzzed about quite well, but it does tend to do thing of its own accord at times. All not helped by poor tail hold and tail trim changing in flight. I spent £200 on mine and another £80 in spares and repairs - money that would have been better invested in a much better heli - so now I've got a Trex SE (still in the box). I'd say its best to leave the BCP until you are at a stage where you can give quick accurate inputs in any heli orientation to 'catch' its willful behavoir, but by then you won't want to go back to the underpowered BCP.
It does have some redeeming qualities though, it bounces more then breaks and you get a good 10-15 mins on a charge. Being smaller makes it more acceptable to fly in parks (as far as public perception goes). There is a sim model on XTR thats about a hard as a real BCP - the 'Piccolo pro' but its horrible to fight, er, I mean fly :lol:

[bluemooone]

Gona say this (ive got em both) If u can get a trex se , get one. If not , then go brushless with the cp ( or if u love its size)

[carlo_the_wonder_frog]

The T-Rex is definitely the better bird, no doubt, mine can do things much better than the BCP. The BCP isn't really all that bad though, it does take constant correction and yes the altitude does change a bit ( very little on mine) and yes the tail is kinda crappy. With that being said, I actually like flying my CP, it didnt cost much so I am more willing to try new things with it. Mine flies pretty well, I can keep it within a 1 foot box for a minute or so if the wind isn't blowing. Forward flight is pretty decent as long as you know it will weahervane if you go too fast. The bell mixer upgrade is well worth the $24, CP flies a good deal better with more responsive cyclic. I only run the symmetrical blades anymore, the flats have too much lift and IMO are the main cause of altitude changes. The gyro is a pile o junk on the 4 in 1 and I want to try out a HH gyro as soon as my brother lets me use his.

[EdgeCrusher]

Well i took to another extreme. I Just got home with a Raptor 60/YS61 and JR X8103. So i think i will hold off until the weather gets cold and ill build a T-REX or possible HDX?

Still have 2 Blade CP's (Need 4-n-1's) With lots of extra parts for sale if anyone wants to stock up, Just shoot me a pm and i will give you a list of what i have for a goood deal

Thanks for all you help guys!

[johnnyf]

interesting reading in this post- i have a cx which i can fly very well
bought an mx 400 pro-beautiful heli-can't fly it at all yet-spent $$$$ on broken blades twice-spent more$$ on parts that flew off- finally got it all ready to fly now,but it is too scary to get it higher than a few inches off the ground.
thinking about getting a cp pro to learn flying a collective pitch machine.i am thinking parts may be cheaper to replace?
but i do love the mx 400