Blade CPP on a 14MZ

[WilsonFlyer]

I'm totally new to helis. Given the crappy documentation provided with the 14 that assumes somebody knows everything about setting up a heli, I was wondering if someone here had maybe put their Blade CP or CP Pro on a 14MZ and would be willing to share it with me.

At least it would give me a starting point. Aside from assigning servos to the proper channels, I am totally lost. Seems like a waste to me to have to use the radio that came with the Blade since I have this great radio with all this functionality but have no idea how to set it up with my heli.

Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance guys.

-bob

[RCfan]

I don't have a Blade CP to share with you, but the one thing you'll find when setting up any heli model is that you should visit every screen under the Linkage and Model menus and adjust/verify all settings as appropriate. The 14MZ manual does a good job of describing the features and how to adjust each respectively. It would be nearly impossible to add "examples" for setting-up heli models in a generic fashion (too many combinations to make t feasable).

Anyway, get the channels setup right and moving correctly (reverse any servos as necessary). Setup as many Conditions as you deem necessary; I like to add one or more idle-ups, a hold condition, center and setup, in that order (priority). The center one forces servos to center position (throttle/pitch and AFR curves for aileron/elevator/rudder set to a horizontal line at 50%) with ATV/trim included (different than servo neutral), while setup enables full-travel on all channels (helps check for binding and adjusting ATV). For each or the normal, idle-ups and hold conditions, setup the Throttle, Pitch and AFR(D/R) as you seem fit. Setup Throttle-cut and gyro as necessary. If you had a heli with a Governor, you'd also go in and adjust that. One of the hardest thing is to determine how many settings you want to keep grouped or setup individually per condition (since it's an individual consideration).

Being new to helis can be daunting, especially if you're trying to setup a model on a feature-rich radio such as the 14MZ. However, in short time you'll notice how simple it really is (once you get used to where everything is at). You'll need to have patience and if you get stuck someplace, come back here for assistance (try running a search first in case what you're asking for has already been answered). Also, don't forget to research the Futaba 14MZ FAQ area ( http://www.14mz.com/faq/faq-14mz.html ).

Good luck,
--Felix

[WilsonFlyer]

Thanks Felix.

It's just frustrating since I can setup a fixed wing to do anything I want it to do but the heli doc with the 14 stinks IMO (so does the airplane doc for that matter but that's another story). since helis are all new to me, even some of the terminology Futaba uses on the screens alludes me. I don't even really know how/where to start. :(

BTW, if anybody has a Blade on a 12MZ, those .mdl files are compatable with the 14MZ as well.

Thanks guys!

[Rada70]

You seem to me very new to Helis. Therefor, I would suggest you let a Heli pilot go over the set up with you.

[WilsonFlyer]

You seem to me very new to Helis. Therefor, I would suggest you let a Heli pilot go over the set up with you.

That would be good advice except for the fact that there:

a. are basically no heli pilots around here; at least not any good enough to help me (though they think they ar too good to help anybody)

b. Nobody'll touch my 14MZ. People seem to get intimidated at the very sight of it

I've pretty much decided to teach myself one way or another. The couple of rank amatuer heli pilots around here brag about the fact that they can fly them (I use that term broadly.) and have made a career of trying to intimidate everyone in our club to be scared to death of helis.

Hell hath arrived in the form of me. I'm gonna learn on my own without anyone's interactive (live) assistance or bust hell wide open (and the bank) trying and I WILL succeed.

Somebody's gotta put these guys back in their boxes and since I've found out about the Blade, I've made it my life's mission to be that someone.

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll figure it out. :)

[spork]

The 14MZ isn't a bad little radio, but it's not enough for the Blade CP. You'll have to upgrade.

:mrgreen:

[Finless]

Man Spork that is BAD dude......

Maybe the JR14 ;)

Bob

[WilsonFlyer]

The 14MZ isn't a bad little radio, but it's not enough for the Blade CP. You'll have to upgrade.

:mrgreen:

Hehehehehehe... I was afraid of that. :(

[spork]

Hehehehehehe... I was afraid of that. :(

To be serious, I'd be glad to help you out, but I know nothing about the 14MZ programming menus. I think the only moderately tricky part will be setting up the CCPM mixing. To understand the concepts behind that you should definitely check out the free Finless video on CCPM setup for the T-Rex. I don't know if the 14MZ radio is anything like the 7CHP, but the concepts will be similar.

[WilsonFlyer]

In the "if anybody's interested" category...

I got the Blade working 100% on my 9CHP. The swash type is SR-3. I don't take credit for this, BTW. It was posted on RCU.

My 14MZ doesn't have a SR-3. Any suggestions.

When I moved all my airplanes over from the 9CHP to the 14MZ, I was able to transpose values as a starting point. With no equivilent swash type, that pretty much puts this methodology to a screeching halt until I can find out which swash is the equivilent of the SR-3 on the 9C.

Anybody know?

[spork]

I think you should be able to use whatever the swash type the 14MZ users use on the T-Rex. But you'll have to change the throw direction for pitch and roll since the blade elevator input is in the front instead of the back (as I recall).

Unfortunately, I don't know the 14MZ, so I don't know what settings are used on the Rex. But there should be plenty of people here that do.

Good luck.

[WilsonFlyer]

HR-3 seems to be the ticket.

The 9C has something called "Revo" that the guy that did the 9C on RCU used. Anybody know what the equivilent fcn might be on a 14MZ? I can't seem to find anything that resembles Revo.

Thanks. I'm getting there. I'll share my settings when I get it all working.

[spork]

Revo normally is a function that adds yaw as you add throttle/collective. Nowadays with most of us using heading-hold gyros Revo is almost a thing of the past (you don't want to use it with a gyro in HH mode).

[WilsonFlyer]

Revo normally is a function that adds yaw as you add throttle/collective. Nowadays with most of us using heading-hold gyros Revo is almost a thing of the past (you don't want to use it with a gyro in HH mode).

So it's more or less a throttle-->rudder mix? Gotcha. Yep. with my gyro, I don't need it, I hope. LOL

Thanks.