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06-11-2005, 09:16 AM
The link for the manual is not working anymore.... but below you'll find two pdf's with the manual in it. Scroll down in the PDF's for the Englisch version.
Furthermore I would suggest checking this link for the most cost-effective conversion to belt drive: http://www.helifreak.com/about3643.html
For less than $20,- you can't afford to stay with the gears.....
I have also glued two small carbon rods to the back of my tailfin in order to prevent vibrations, seems to work very well. The tail fin is a lot stiffer, see picture: http://www.helifreak.com/album_mod/upload/bf7d9d55567aa9059ca8e14f1e8c392a.jpg
10-06-2005, 06:20 PM
I have a problem with my zoom 400 !!! when i start to give power to the heli my tail rotor shaft will bend if i give more power them half stick. I have changue the rotor for one in titanium and the same problem! Any help?
09-22-2006, 02:16 PM
Hi Everyone, I have a question, will a Watt age super 400 cobalt motor from hobby people fit into my shogen v2 ? they say it will fit all 400 applications, and my stock shogun motor smells all hot and burnt after 10 min of flying, i think i burnt it up :) the Wattage super 400 is a brush motor, and cheap like me :) and a heat sink might make it last longer, a brushless would be better i know, but i just want to get a little more cheap training in with this shogun, before buying a century swift heli, I am to the point where i can tail in hover :) so far, it will be a while before i can fly upside down , if ever :) or does anyone know of a better brush motor that will fit the shogun and last longer than the stock motor, any help will be very very helpful, Thank you, Chellie.
11-06-2006, 01:47 PM
Could you please rephrase that?
As far as I read you, the shaft of the tailrotor bends when applying more than about 50% power? In other words, you have heavy vibrations on the tailrotor?
If that's it, it sounds like a non-balanced tailrotor to me, or a shaft that is already bent and therefore starts to wobble at higher RPM's. Or maybe a ball-bearing on the tailrotor's shaft has desintegrated...
Could be a lot of things, if you could give us a closer description, we might be able to point you right...
I never even tried that stock motor...
I read from in a MicroStar review (that's Graupner's clone of Shogun), that with stock you just get 2400RPM's out of it. Which will get lower with increased pitch and also diminishing battery-voltage...
I went straight-away to the motor that Graupner suggest for it: Brushless... (Compact320H 11,1V)
Maybe it's five times the price of the original, but believe me: it's worry-free.
I can see it from the BladeCP, that if's not really fun - simply not satisfying - to have a bogging RPM with full pitch...
If you run that motor at almost full power, you get around 13 minutes of hovering out of a 1700mAh pack, not really getting warm at all. With a Pitch of around +/-10°, when applying full pitch, it felt as if the heli was being held to the ground by a rubber band when in hover, and by applying full pitch, that band was being cut...
And just to confirm, I could've thrown in another 100$ for a more expensive ESC with governor-function... So I'm not really working the expensive way, just middle-class...
I guess I'm trying to say:
Do not only look for the cheapest way...
By buying something just a bit more expensive, you might have a hell of a lot more of fun.
In the end, getting several cheap motors and then buying a more expensive BL is still more expensive in the end than if you'd have bought the BL from start... ;) Not counting on nerves and maintenance-time...
Though I also just learnt hovering on the Zoom, it was reassuring to know (kind of worry-free) that my abilities could not exceed the models. Finding out it was the other way around sucks... At least in my opinion... ;)
And then again, looking at a heli that can easily exceed 600$, is it really worth to save money on a 100$ motor-combo? ;)
If still not convinced: I still have my original motor and its esc from Protech... You can have it for the costs of shipping... Interested?
Cheers from Daniel, sorta back in the saddle... :)
PS: I have now successfully upgraded now to belt-tail, can't wait to do some more exciting stuff than I did with the Blade... :)
12-26-2010, 12:11 PM
Main blade grips is a must if you're still using stock plastic ones.