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kvnm27
03-28-2010, 09:10 AM
This is for the guy, can't remember his sign on name, that says he'll stick with his 500 because of battery cost and if he goes bigger he's going nitro because lipos for the BIG e heli's are too expensive. Now, I'll agree that I think battery costs are pretty ridiculous but let me tell ya about your nitro theory, your wrong! I didn't come on here to start beef, but I thought same as you about 8 mths ago and now, my trex 600 will be the only nitro in my fleet. I may sell it and 'replace' it with another nitro but I will only have one nitro. Reason?I went through two gallons of fuel in one week, know what that cost? 70$ that equates to 25 flights roughly. So if these guys are getting 100 cycles on a 70$ battery, well, from my mouth to your eyes reading this, here's your proof in writing right here! Going nitro is not the poor mans route and I'm one of them. So for guys like me and you, bite the bullet and go broke in the beginning because nitros will eat you outta house and home. Not to mention I've had two os engines fail. **as you know I didnt include that expenditure in here!

Felt
03-28-2010, 09:24 AM
This is for the guy, can't remember his sign on name, that says he'll stick with his 500 because of battery cost and if he goes bigger he's going nitro because lipos for the BIG e heli's are too expensive. Now, I'll agree that I think battery costs are pretty ridiculous but let me tell ya about your nitro theory, your wrong! I didn't come on here to start beef, but I thought same as you about 8 mths ago and now, my trex 600 will be the only nitro in my fleet. I may sell it and 'replace' it with another nitro but I will only have one nitro. Reason?I went through two gallons of fuel in one week, know what that cost? 70$ that equates to 25 flights roughly. So if these guys are getting 100 cycles on a 70$ battery, well, from my mouth to your eyes reading this, here's your proof in writing right here! Going nitro is not the poor mans route and I'm one of them. So for guys like me and you, bite the bullet and go broke in the beginning because nitros will eat you outta house and home. Not to mention I've had two os engines fail. **as you know I didnt include that expenditure in here!

Yes, plus you have to buy glow plugs, replace engine bearings, fuel tubing, etc etc. I have one nitro in my fleet and it gets flown the least. I seriously considering replacing it with the 550. I'm not bashing nitros by no means. just for me they are a PITA.

ILoveMicroHelis
03-28-2010, 11:10 AM
With Nitro's you buy your fuel as you fly.

With electric you buy you "fuel" up front. :thumbup:

Pete

aliboy
03-28-2010, 12:34 PM
Please, do not mention Zippy's and Turingy packs in the same sentence, as if they were the same (quality of) packs, because they are not. Turnigy batteries are way better. :thumbup:Pete

I guess it depends on luck as much as anything, but all my turnigy 6s 3000's puffed within 10 cycles, and I was way below stressing them. All the zippy 6s 3000 I bought are still going strong after about 40 cycles.:dontknow

Slyster
03-28-2010, 02:34 PM
Not me.. I would bet if you tried a Thunder Power 45C battery, your attitude would change. I now own 4, and going to order more.Could be. How much for 10 of them? If I can afford that I definitely would go that route! :thumbup:

Blades345
03-28-2010, 02:57 PM
I have almost 50 flights on a couple of my Turnigy packs right now and they are still going strong. Love the Turnigys! I did however just recently buy a Hyperion from a guy on Runryder for a great price. It is a 6S 5000 VX 35C and I've heard great things about them. I can't wait to try it. I was going to buy the Turnigy 40C, but they still aren't in stock and its driving me nuts.

kvnm27
03-28-2010, 03:47 PM
I really like the Hyperion packs but like thunder power... bring the price down. About 9 mths ago I was going to buy a tenergy pack from my LHS and it was 50$. Then I was introduced to hobbyking and it was over. I got 3 2200mah 20c packs sent to my door step for 70 bucks with prices like that who cares if one of those packs fail. I still have two for roughly the price of one!! I understand that TP packs have a huge success rate but money is money! You could potentially buy two 5000 mah packs from HK instead of just one from TD. I'll take that risk :) Whether nitro or electric this hobby is awesome!! Happy flying.

ronstancil
04-06-2010, 02:28 PM
What it comes down to is cost per flight - a 50 size nitro bird is $4/flight (8 tanks out of a $30 gallon of fuel). A $50 battery for that lasts only 50 flights is still a good deal.

Trex_Power
04-07-2010, 12:21 AM
Soon I'm hoping for something bigger than the 700. 800 maybe?

Slyster
04-07-2010, 10:46 AM
I doubt we will ever see a "main stream" r/c heli over 700. That's just TOO big.. and more for AP, crop dusting, etc.

To fly something bigger at a funfly with other pilots in other flight boxes would be crazy.

Mohnfeld
04-07-2010, 08:16 PM
Short information about Turnigy Packs.

We got a Helicopter Store here in Kassel-Germany and ordering other quantities. Our resumé:

- ordered 50 Turnigy 6s 5000mAh, more than 20 (in words twenty) Packs got dead cells or cells with a huge loss of voltage

- ordered more than 100 Zippy Flightmax and not more than 5 Packs got these Problems.

Conclusion: Zippy Flightmax are the superior packs. Turnigy got strong quality Problems.


Perhaps this helps!

Slyster
04-07-2010, 09:36 PM
Really? I ordered 12 Turnigy 5000's and 11 were perfect in every way. (1 they exchanged because it came to me with a puffed cell)... yours were almost 1/2 bad? You must have gotten an odd batch.

Mikej
04-08-2010, 03:29 AM
I have had 5 of the 6s 2650 Turigy packs - all perfect. However there does seem to have been a problem with the 3000 3S packs - a friend got 2 with bad cells (1 was repairable)

ACKopter
04-12-2010, 05:36 PM
What it comes down to is cost per flight - a 50 size nitro bird is $4/flight (8 tanks out of a $30 gallon of fuel). A $50 battery for that lasts only 50 flights is still a good deal.


:bs I dont know where you get your fuel or what 50 size nitro you fly but I'm closer to 12-13 flights per gallon and BTW, my 30% nitro is $22 a gallon. And lets not forget my nitro flights are in the neigborhood of 10 mins versus the 4-5 min flights of mine and most likely your electrics.

By no means am I saying that nitro is better than electric as it is IMO a personal choice based on varying reasons, but if you are going to make statements like you did try to keep them a little more honest.

Now, Back to our regularly scheduled program.
IS IT HERE YET?

rotaryguy
04-13-2010, 10:25 AM
I guess this is a battery thread...

ronstancil
04-13-2010, 10:29 AM
No just got off topic for a moment, back to our regularly sched thread . . .

I wonder if 500 mm blades will become more common? I think the 550 is too close to the 600, to be much of a difference. Maybe it's that the 600 doesn't run well on 6s, I just think this bird will be too close to the 600

Slyster
04-13-2010, 10:32 AM
True! That's the whole idea. There shouldn't be a 600. It just doesn't work well (at least on 6s).. too heavy and underpowered.. they shouldn't have made it at all but rather the 550 in the first place. Yet the 550 (at least my outrage and I assume align) looks just as big in the air! Much easier to see than the 500.

ronstancil
04-13-2010, 10:41 AM
I've got my 600e running on 8s, and it's a monster - I think at the front end of the charge, it's got more go than a 600n. I wonder what size batteries will power this? 3000 will barely fit in a tr 500, maybe 5000's? at 20c, that's 100 amps, or 2 kw, almost 3 hp. that would be awesome!

Slyster
04-13-2010, 10:46 AM
No doubt the 550 (like the outrages) will use 6s5000's... I run 30-40C and the thing is faster than my 500 was.. it's crazy.

And yeah.. I have a friend with a 12s Align 600... now THAT combo works... :shock:

ACKopter
04-13-2010, 06:28 PM
I seem to be the odd man out on battery choice for power. I really want to see it released as a 6S set-up provided they can keep the weight down and the performance up. If its going to be 8S or up then its a no-go for me.

Is there any gossip on the release date? I havent heard a thing as I've been a little out of touch lately.

emilware
04-13-2010, 07:10 PM
I want one NOW :arggg::arggg::arggg:..

jhheli
04-14-2010, 11:08 AM
I doubt we will ever see a "main stream" r/c heli over 700. That's just TOO big.. and more for AP, crop dusting, etc.

To fly something bigger at a funfly with other pilots in other flight boxes would be crazy.

There are pics of a trex 800 with 800mm blades, it is probably a camera ship, trex800 if it someone had the right power source I wouldn't be surprised, if you see them doing tic toc.:lol:. but a trex 800 wouldn't be as bad as you think, considering how big the 700 already is and people fly those in tight areas.

radicalheli
04-15-2010, 02:50 PM
That answers my dilemma, on whether to buy a 600e? I think I will wait for the 550! I hope they decide to use 550 blades too!!!!!!:rolling

ronstancil
04-15-2010, 03:02 PM
If its AUW is exactly between the 500 and the 600, that would be perfect. But, I'll bet it'll be closer to the 600, I want something in the middle,

steetyj
04-16-2010, 07:05 AM
even though this is the align 550 forum..i gotta ask...

T-Rex 550 VS. New Gaui X5 ive been seeing pictures of???

opinions?