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MaSt0RaS
03-23-2010, 02:45 PM
Hello guys i have ordered My 550 from Fast Lad..
i will start the building after 20 days because i am on Holidays..

My equipment
Scorpion 910
Jive 85HV
8900 tail servo
Spartan Quark
3xds610
Eagle tree Logger
Derlin Main Gear
13T pinion i think i will see:)
Turnigy batteries 2x4s 4000 40C
Edge 550 bades ( i didnt find the rotortech:( )

I havent order them Yet but i will order them tomorrow and i wanna ask what connectros to choose from Hobbycity or FastLad??
What do you think??
Is there something i Forgot?
Any tips?

Laposelemer
03-23-2010, 03:16 PM
Hi!

It seems good.

I use this connectors for the main battery http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=9283&Product_Name=HXT_4mm_Gold_Connector_w/_Protector_(10pcs/set) and this for BEC battery http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=9284&Product_Name=HXT_3.5mm_Gold_Connector_w/_Protector_(10pcs/set).

What about the tail blade? Yes it comes with the kit, but I never used that plastik 85mm blade. You can use 93mm-95mm size too.
I've got TIG 93mm tail blade. It's lightweight but very flexible.

I've got 2 pairs of main blade. Currently I use the NHP Razor Pro 550mm. And the other is SAB Red Devil 550mm. The weights are the same, but the SAB a little bit stiffer.
And once I want to try the TIG 550mm main blade too. And many others. :)

For the logger an RPM sensor.
Wire braid from HC in that color what you like. http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=9551&Product_Name=Wire_Mesh_Guard_Black_3mm_(1mtr)

Attila

MaSt0RaS
03-23-2010, 03:23 PM
For tail blades i will put 95MM align tail blades.

For the rpm sensor i will buy not the optical one right??

Also i wont buy an external bec as the Jive has a good internal Bec...(am i right??)

For the connectors i was thnking for them too because there is no need to change the stock from the batts...

But i have a plug to connect the 2x4s in series tha have deans On... :(

Laposelemer
03-23-2010, 03:39 PM
Yah, I almost forgot.

I bought a BANDO belt. And assembled with that, instead of stock belt.
I put on a cyclic ball upgrade. But I don't know currently it useful for me.
A motor shim plate for Scorpion motor, If you want to use the 3rd motor bearing.

If you familiar with these things, sorry. :)

I can't say anything from the Jive BEC.
My speed controller don't have internal (JETI Spin 77 Opto) and I switched from Turnigy UBEC to CC BEC Pro.

For RPM sensor buy this: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=4635&Product_Name=MicroPower_Brushless_Motor_RPM_Sensor
And you can buy a temp sensor too. If you need.
Or you can build one, very easy.

But i have a plug to connect the 2x4s in series tha have deans On...

Why do you want to use that deans connector? Split the connector what comes with the battery, and you can connect in series.

Winfred
03-23-2010, 04:20 PM
Running DS610 you will want to have an external BEC. The internal BEC in the Jive is rated for like 5A continious? That is not enough. When testing mine on the bench, with no tail servo or gyro pluggen in and only the 3 cyclic DS610 plugged in, the continious amp draw was like around 4 amps. Remember that this was with no load on the servos and the meter did not have enough resolution to pick up the amp peaks and spikes.

MaSt0RaS
03-23-2010, 05:25 PM
Running DS610 you will want to have an external BEC. The internal BEC in the Jive is rated for like 5A continious? That is not enough. When testing mine on the bench, with no tail servo or gyro pluggen in and only the 3 cyclic DS610 plugged in, the continious amp draw was like around 4 amps. Remember that this was with no load on the servos and the meter did not have enough resolution to pick up the amp peaks and spikes.

Οh No.... i didnt know that.. i will try and i will see how it is going... i think that it is 5A and 15A burst.. Thats ok..:)

Also about i have ordered the scoprion plate ...
For the 2 balls i have them for the velocity i know for them..

DominicD
03-23-2010, 07:04 PM
Might also want to take a look at using PowerPoles instead of deans, in the case of where you have to put them in series powerpoles really cleans things up.

seemore74
03-23-2010, 07:30 PM
For tail blades i will put 95MM align tail blades.

For the rpm sensor i will buy not the optical one right??

Also i wont buy an external bec as the Jive has a good internal Bec...(am i right??)



I would honestly suggest using an external bec & not rely on the ESC bec.

Slyster
03-23-2010, 09:43 PM
The CC BEC Pro is 20A and like $45. Worth it.. much cheaper than even ONE crash from a failure.

DominicD
03-23-2010, 09:50 PM
The CC BEC Pro is 20A and like $45. Worth it.. much cheaper than even ONE crash from a failure.

20A :roll::roll:

CPV2
03-23-2010, 10:00 PM
cc pro would be 11 amps continuous on 8s if I read it right and 20 amp burst/ max.

11 amps should be enough, should it not ?

Clarence

barzaun
03-23-2010, 10:57 PM
The CC BEC Pro is 20A and like $45. Worth it.. much cheaper than even ONE crash from a failure.

Read the specifications, folks. I don't particularly like how Castle advertises their products, but most of the facts that end users usually need to know are in the documentation.

Slyster
03-23-2010, 10:59 PM
Well.. regardless of their advertising.. the PRO is working perfectly on my 550... 6s.. vBar... doesn't even get warm...

barzaun
03-23-2010, 11:05 PM
Well.. regardless of their advertising.. the PRO is working perfectly on my 550... 6s.. vBar... doesn't even get warm...

My point was CC BEC Pro IS NOT 20A CONTINUOUS. Many people had their CC BEC (not talking about the PRO now) burst into flames and burn out all the other electronics in their heli because they thought the advertised 10A were enough... surprise, 10A were peak, not continuous. What I'm saying is people should read the documentation more carefully.

MaSt0RaS
03-25-2010, 01:20 PM
Might also want to take a look at using PowerPoles instead of deans, in the case of where you have to put them in series powerpoles really cleans things up.
what is this can you explain..!

Winfred
03-25-2010, 02:05 PM
Power poles are a type of connectors. You can build them together in any way you like, almost like lego.

http://helifreak.com/showpost.php?p=1910418&postcount=9

DominicD
03-25-2010, 02:44 PM
See above.

Slyster
03-25-2010, 02:45 PM
See the post above the one above this one.

MaSt0RaS
03-25-2010, 08:26 PM
and i can disconnect them and charge them or do i have to charge as 1 8s lipo??

Which exactly do i have to order...

I see a lot of connectors on the site:):) :(:(

DominicD
03-25-2010, 08:50 PM
We use the 45A PowerPoles. You can connect them as charge them as a big 8S pack or split them up and charge them as a pair of 4S.

MaSt0RaS
03-26-2010, 04:03 AM
We use the 45A PowerPoles. You can connect them as charge them as a big 8S pack or split them up and charge them as a pair of 4S.


Ok thank you....!

missle
03-26-2010, 08:54 AM
Just make sure you set your gear mesh TIGHT cause this baby on 8S is powerfull! I've had mines on 8s since the beginning and the only way I could get it to not strip was a really tight mesh. I will admit that my slamming the pitch too hard at times also heavily contibuted but I've gone probably 30+ flights now since my last strip :)

norcalbass
03-26-2010, 06:37 PM
Yeah. I pretty much have to cram the motor pinion up against the gear and tighten it down. Or it will strip. I figure the motor has got so much freakin power that it will seat itself in and be just fine... It's worked for me so far.