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broke-again
10-28-2006, 08:32 PM
I found this today and wow...if i had a million dollars..didnt see how much it was (probably is a million), but this set up's fail safe is a parachute in the tail boom. Seems the military if a few countries like this set up too.

Angelo's next AP project perhaps, parachute fail safe deployment!

www.neural-robotics.com/Products.htm

MarkWebber
10-29-2006, 05:50 AM
A parachute sounds like a cool idea but I can't imagine there are too many instances when it would actually work. Too many things spinning at high speeds to add parachute cords to the mix. Maybe if you had a rotor brake.

SeaHawk
10-29-2006, 08:53 AM
I think they had posted a video of early tests where they showed it working, but have not seen anything recently.

MarkWebber
10-29-2006, 09:48 AM
I don't doubt under ideal conditions that it might work. My only crash resulted from t/r failure. The way it was spinning would seem to prevent a parachute from saving it.

Raven_darkcloud
10-29-2006, 04:10 PM
any one think of autorotation? hit thold and it wont be tail spinning then if an auto is not an option use the shute. Or design a ejection and shute system for the ap gear and auto the heli if posible. cuz I think your ap gear is you big worry.

Nitrospazzz
10-29-2006, 06:02 PM
I always wonder how many feet that thing needs to work properly. If you do most your shots from 100 feet is that enough for it to work right? Think I'd rather attempt an auto than rely on one of those

MicroMan
10-29-2006, 06:27 PM
I know Im bordering on the edge of fantasy but a rocket propelled parachute would be an iteresting way to deploy a parachute. Like Nitrospazzz mentioned 100 feet may not be a good height to deploy a parachute and hope to save your equipment.

But Im sure theres a fomula out there that will help calculate that.

MarkWebber
10-29-2006, 06:55 PM
I was between 50-75'. Even though I hit T-hold it was still spinning too much by the time it got close to the ground.

I'd say that all the reasons parachutes aren't on full scale probably are applicable to us.

askman
10-29-2006, 09:25 PM
I can see how it might work, if the chute is on the top of the blade, kinda like recon pod on the kiowa. still, regular maintenance, failsafe and practice. try not to be in that situation...

AZ ChopperCam
10-30-2006, 12:30 AM
wasn't there an experimental fullscale helo that had explosive jesus bolt and ejection seats?

I could swear I heard about that at some point in years past.

hey how about like they did in WWI by timing the firing of the machine gun through the prop.... same mechanism for the pilots ejection seats? no? :roll: :lol:

oscillator
10-30-2006, 11:42 PM
It is interesting to note the Cirrus fixed wing aircraft (SR20 and SR22 http://www.cirrusdesign.com/). This airplane has a "ballistic recovery chute" and was touted as the safest aircraft on the planet when it was introduced several years back. However, its fatal accident rate has been far less than stellar, and obtaining insurance for this craft is both difficult and expensive.

Maybe over time the emergency recovery parachute will prove a worthwhile safety feature on both fixed and rotar wing craft, but so far it has not.