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Global K
05-26-2010, 10:27 AM
Hi All,
I have a question about tail Rudder control here...
Mine is mode 2.. rudder on the left with the elevator
I found that i only move the rudder stick about 1/3 from the central position, the tail have already reach the maximum of each side... the rest of the 2/3 stick is nothing.. :confused:
Are you all have the same ? Or my set up on my transmitter need to adjusted?
Please advise.. cos while i am learning abit of 3D it seem like abit of unintensional movement of the rudder can cause the heli tail to move a lot... !!
Please advise... :noteworthy
J-S-Q
05-26-2010, 11:31 AM
Haven't looked on mine to see exactly how it compares but that sounds reasonably normal to me for a gyro in heading hold mode.
R.Lim
05-26-2010, 11:56 AM
Mine is mode 2.. rudder on the left with the elevator
I found that i only move the rudder stick about 1/3 from the central position, the tail have already reach the maximum of each side... the rest of the 2/3 stick is nothing.. :confused:
That is not mode 2, mode 2 is the rudder and the throttle on the left stick. Yours is mode 4.
Regarding the rudder travel, you should set up the gyro accordingly, and to adjust the travels in such away that it will not have any binding. Moreover, you do need a full rudder travel in order to be able to control the heli
Global K
05-26-2010, 12:19 PM
That is not mode 2, mode 2 is the rudder and the throttle on the left stick. Yours is mode 4.
Regarding the rudder travel, you should set up the gyro accordingly, and to adjust the travels in such away that it will not have any binding. Moreover, you do need a full rudder travel in order to be able to control the heli
Opps.. wrong infor.. my in mode 2 ... rudder with throttle.. :oops:
I have set the gyro to non binding on either side... full to the max left and right no bindng..
What i mean about this issue is that ... when you move the rudder stick to left or right... about 1/3 of the total distance of the movement stick .. the tail rudder have already finish moving... which means the rest of the 2/3 distance movement of the stick is actually nothing...
Or in another word the tail move faster than the stick... can i say that ?:confused:
Is like this correct ?:confused:
R.Lim
05-26-2010, 12:46 PM
What i mean about this issue is that ... when you move the rudder stick to left or right... about 1/3 of the total distance of the movement stick .. the tail rudder have already finish moving... which means the rest of the 2/3 distance movement of the stick is actually nothing...
Or in another word the tail move faster than the stick... can i say that ?:confused:
Is like this correct ?:confused:
Yes, that is correct, but you are testing in an static situations (bench) and not on a dynamic (moving) situations. If the tail blades are moving with 4x faster then the main blade, the rudder blade have to compensate, and thus it will use the whole length of the tail sliders ;)
Lplate
05-27-2010, 01:27 AM
How i understood it is...
When your heli is not flying but u are testing on bench only, the gyro sees that you input rudder stick left or right and it starts to move the servo, trying to move your tail in the direction u want. Seeing that there is no response, since the tail blade is not spinning, it continues to move the servo even more. That's why it goes all the way to the end even when your transmitter stick is not at the end.
Imagine wheh heli is flying, if there is strong wind blowing the tail in the direcftion opposite of what u control with your transmitter. The gyro will sense that the tail is not moving as fast as you wanted, so it will move the servo even more to give more tail pitch so it can move the tail at the speed you wanted.
MartinS819
05-28-2010, 12:56 AM
If you watch the latest Spartan Gyro vids, for the Quark, Finless goes over an outline of how gyros work and static vs. field differences, etc. He really goes into stuff that's true about all gyros, not just the Quark. I think if you watch them, you'll understand everything a lot better. It sure helped me understand it all better!
Global K
05-28-2010, 04:04 AM
If you watch the latest Spartan Gyro vids, for the Quark, Finless goes over an outline of how gyros work and static vs. field differences, etc. He really goes into stuff that's true about all gyros, not just the Quark. I think if you watch them, you'll understand everything a lot better. It sure helped me understand it all better!
bro, can send me the link of the video?
thank-you
CTG1129
05-28-2010, 08:26 AM
here is the link (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=finless+quark+video)