MHF warning

[Mike Fortin]

Should anyone wish to contact me regarding these issues please don't hesitate to call me at 954-775-4596

[NolanManley]

Guess it was just the games you and seneca were playing then... huh.

That's ok since your both booted off RR.

Dipshit? Yep, that's what you name is on the net now. :lol:

[V-22 Osprey]

MHF, I can prove I paid you $145.00, how do I know you shipped anything? My responsibility was to pay for the engine and I did that the same day. What are you saying, your only responsibly was to take my money? You take no responsibility in answered your PMs. You average over 6 posts daily! I have sent you numerous PMs when you are online at RR with no response. The first time I thought maybe you’re not at the computer. After sending next few I went right to the RR “online list” and it shows you reading you’re PMs. So I know you just blow me off. This was before the post office “misplaced” the engine. Why would you not reply if you had nothing to hide? I Know I know you are on the “Good Guy” list. If this was an isolated case with you it would be easier to understand/more believable. This needs to end. How about this, you take half the responsibility. Paypal me $72.50 and I will post the lost money under lessons learned.

[Aaron L]

Sorry to Jump in here, but MHF, what you need is to gain people's respect, and getting mad and typing what you did sure as $hit isn't going to help you, be respectful, diplomatic, and helpful, and you'll be on the right track, you've got some people that are pretty pissed at you right now, and i think you should be trying to make it right; remember, it takes alot to build a good reputation, but it takes one second to completely destroy it.
Aaron

[Mike Fortin]

I have taken full responsibility for these issues and certainly apologize to the parties involved.

[NolanManley]

Fair enough.

[ThBrtmn]

Aaron...
I know you are just trying to make suggestions for MHFs character but as said early in this thread...If you have no dealings with MHF then you are 3rd party and all 3rd parties need to stay out of it and only read and be warned by those who post. This is only fair for all involved and fortunately us 3rd parties are not involved.

[mason15]

Damn Mike, Seneca is wondering whats up with this?

[Mike Fortin]

I could imagine! :roll:

[Toad]

Sometimes the USP or whatever shipping firm makes mistakes, I owned a hobby store for a long time, I can tell you that they do not lose pkg's on a regular basis. simple fact. and if something does go wrong, honest people correct it, RIGHT THEN, not weeks later. Yep I accuse MHF as being a theif. Too many deals gone bad with him within a year. Proof is there.
Good thing he is exposed.

[Mike Fortin]

I hate to see all the additional people involve in this matter. Many of the people are speaking without having full knowledge of what has actually taken place and are therfore making assumptions.

Please let me make this right with the involved parties without any other interactions from the outside.


...If you have no dealings with MHF then you are 3rd party and all 3rd parties need to stay out of it and only read and be warned by those who post. This is only fair for all involved and fortunately us 3rd parties are not involved.

[cdrking]

Or what, will we be deleted?

Jeff

[Mike Fortin]

Again, I only ask that you don't comment on something you are unfamiliar with.

[Toad]

Well, it is a public forum, and people have posted about a seller not being above board, so. I state what I believe in. I read the warnings. IF this thread was not meant to warn others, it should have been handled via emails between those involved. I see this as a heads-up to others when dealing with MHF on a public board. Ban away if they want to. that would show incredible integrity also, to ban someone for being honest in their oppinion?
However it comes out is fine with me. :cool:

[Toad]

Just noticed something here, actually it was brought to my attention.
MHF seems to say here he doesn't have the coin to make all this right, but it seems he can chase after items on RR?
http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/t125806p1/
Integrity?? priorities out of whack??

[ThBrtmn]

Toad and all...
We are not going to ban anyone for posting here incorrectly. We just want the dirty laundry aired by those that are qualified. If you choose to post when you have no dealings with MHF then YOUR integrity as risk. Someone who jumps on a bandwagon against someone else when they have no firsthand interaction or dealings with the accused is just as bad as the person being accused.
We dont want a witchhunt here.... We just want good HONEST input from THOSE INVOLVED. IF MHF has done you Good or bad PERSONALLY, post away. If you have never dealt with him personally but feel you need to voice your opinion...well...like the old saying goes "Its better to be thought of as a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." :hug:

.....and as far as the RR info is concerned.....INTERESTING!

[Toad]

Ok, strange how you can say that to me and still find the rr link interesting. I am glad to be able to read about crooks so I too dont get stung by them, and I see that is what started this thread, a warning to others.
If you think I am as bad as the accused for stating how I see this, that is fine with me, I will take my interests in this hobby to a different board.
I felt this thread really did have some value, as proof was provided by the victims and the thread did help to warn others of dealings with this individual. sorry if you dont see it that way.

[ThBrtmn]

Toad...
What I meant was....
Fairness...where is it fair for you (who have no dealings with the accused) to start bashing him. Would it be Fair if you were the one being accused where there was a possibility that you were innocent yet someone comes on here accusing you that you are wrong when that person has had no direct dealings with you but wants to jump in on the bandwagon. Where is that fair...Treat others how you would like to be treated. Whether MHF is a bad dealer or not is NOT for ME or YOU to state. Period. I have had no dealings with him. HAVE YOU? You are right this thread is a good thread but only when it is FAIR to ALL DIRECTLY INVOLVED. The true colors are coming out about MHF-per this thread-but you DONT have to post about your decision to buy or not to buy from MHF in the Future if you have not dealt with him in the past.
As far as you leaving...its your choice. We dont want anyone to leave we just want everyone to BE FAIR! :hug: Its that simple.

[V-22 Osprey]

Toad, thanks for posting the link…interesting, but not surprising. Also I enjoyed reading your posts…you don’t need to step outside to know its raining. This closes another week with no engine, no money…once more, not surprised! Like a lot of folks I need to stretch my money and buying used is a big part of that. It lets me enjoy the hobby/addiction. This is a setback but after almost a month it’s not so much the money anymore it’s just very disappointing.

[Mike Fortin]

Toad,
I just wish you were better informed as to thr proceedings instead of badgering my name with you accusations.

[WillJames]

Mike - It is easy for people to assume if you set yourself up for it. Telling guys here that you don't have $$ to take care of bad debts, but posting you are looking for a VH that costs money on RR is setting yourself up for a lot more trouble.

My personal advice to you is to make good on these bad deals BEFORE you buy anything. If you don't this is going to dog you for a long time man.

Nothing Personal Mike. It is what youa re going to have to do if you want this to go away. From what I have seen it is not going to cost you very much to make these deals good then move on.

[Mike Fortin]

Thanks Baja!

None the less, I have stated that I plan on making these deals good and would demand nothing less should I be in their shoes. What these few seems to realize is that this community is one that is very small and people attempting fraudulent activities are almost always ousted to the masses.

In my opinion these deals never went bad, yet! Should I have been completly ignorant of the deals that would be one thing but I did in fact take ownership and claim responisibility. Never once have I denied anyone what is coming to them.

False promises and lies is not the way I do nor ever done business with anyone.

[NolanManley]

"If people only new the truth and didn't speculate! It's too bad! Assumption is the Mother of all F%&$ Ups!"
"Never once have I denied anyone what is coming to them."

Yes, that's true but just ignoring what is/was not right in these deals is making you a Mother of all F%&$ Ups!"

Remember, we're not assuming anything.....we delt with you and got burned.

It's all suppose to be about fun and R&R but when some one makes deals with carelessness of their fellow hobbiest, we all suffer. I lost very little (a header pipe) and have gotten my moneys worth just supporting what others have started here bringing it out in the open :!:

So far you have not been a man of your word. We know you said you'ed make things right but that seems hardly the case with your "Viper wanted add". :roll:

[Mike Fortin]

Yes, that's true but just ignoring what is/was not right in these deals


I have never ignored the issue, I am a man of my word.

[garyl]

Mike, I am not trying to slander you in anyway. All I have done was stated the facts and only the facts. Now you are trying to tell me maybe you should not pay me because you think I am trying to slander you. This was not the case. I am realy a nice guy until things like this happen. When you return the funds, I will be sure to let everyone know about it. As I have stated before, If this was an isolated case I would not have gone this far. I just feel it was my duty to fellow helifreaks to warn.