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garyl
08-16-2004, 10:15 AM
MHF Mike Fortin has stolen $75.00 and refuses to return it. I am not the only one he has done this too. Concider this a warning for everyone, do not deal with him.

ThBrtmn
08-16-2004, 11:27 AM
Explain...
Just posting an acusation whithout just details is not right to the other persons involved. And I'm Sure Mike would appreciate a chance to rebutt if he wishes.

DavidH
08-16-2004, 12:03 PM
I agree, let us hear what actually took place for you to make this accusation. Not saying something didn't happened. But from the post you made above there is not much substance from it to make any decisions.

David

jhodges
08-16-2004, 12:49 PM
I have had a bad run in with MHF as well. Several months ago I bought a 60B carb from him. After several weeks of excuses about how he shipped it and it was lost ...blah blah blah ... never returning emails ... yada yada ... I filed a paypal complaint and they refunded my money. Mike could never prove he shipped the carb .. no receipt, tracking, or insurance.

Be careful.

-J

ThBrtmn
08-16-2004, 01:15 PM
Thanks Johnny.
..any more?

garyl
08-16-2004, 02:06 PM
I paid for an EZ-UP that he was selling on the 14th of july. I asked for shipping information from him, I kept getting " oh I will get it " Never got it. He then said UPS returned it to him and would give me a refund. So far no refund. I have also issued a complaint with PayPal. He could not provide proof he shipped the item or any other information PayPal wanted.

I would like to hear Mike's reply on the following as well,
1. On 7/29/04 V-22 Osprey paid Mike $145.00 for an OS engine and has never recieved it to date.
2. On 8/8/04 Realtor Paid Mike $20.00 for a sullivan starter, he has not recieved that yet.

This is his standard method of operation as you all can see.

I am doing this so others will not be ripped off by him.

Mike Fortin
08-16-2004, 07:29 PM
I apologize to GaryL and V-22 Osprey for the mishap.

V-22 Osprey
08-16-2004, 08:38 PM
This is what I got from him today...a couple of min later he sent one saying I would get it! Real funny guy!

Hi V-22 Osprey
NO! I stole your money!

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V-22 Osprey wrote on 08-16-2004 08:01 PM:
Hi MHF
MHF, any chance I'll get my engine....I take cash also same as you when you took my $145.00 an the 26 of July!

garyl
08-16-2004, 09:40 PM
Mike, Until you actually refund the money this is just another one of your lies. Prove you are a man of your word, refund the money.

Mike Fortin
08-16-2004, 10:25 PM
I apologize to GaryL and V-22 Osprey for the mishap.

NolanManley
08-17-2004, 12:38 AM
Add me to the list
I bought a MP1 from MHF advertised on RR with header $35. After few weeks and a inquirey ...girl friend shipped to wrong place and it was sent back ...few weeks later I get the pipe in good shape...NO HEADER. follow up email ...can't find it.

OK, that same week his GIRL Friend (seneca says a *****) and he split. OK lifes a *****... so I say my loss. But I see now that this is a pattern and I don't like it.

Mike....It'll come back to you BAD 10 fold if you keep doing people wrong.

I see RunRyder has (Re Topic: MP-1 For Sale w/ Left Header [Deleted User])

Last PM I sent;

Re: MP-1 Header

Ok, Since your add stated it included the header and it's not avaliable, I'll send you back the pipe at my expense and you Paypal me back the $35 and I'll eat their charges.
If you do find the header, I'll still stay with our original deal ...just let me know and send it to me. I know how hard stuff is to find when I really want to find it and it's very aggrevating to not , but so is not getting what you pay for.
I have no hard feelings or anything. You've been very up front with me and I appreciate it.

Thanks
Nolan



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MHF wrote on 06-08-2004 06:46 PM:
Hi vetrider,
I have searched high and low for the header without success.



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vetrider wrote on 06-08-2004 07:18 PM:
I see you got my last PM a couple of days ago so I thought I'd ask to see if you had a chance to find the header yet?
I have no need of the pipe without the header.

Please let me know something, Michael.

Thanks
Nolan

Never heard another word from him.

Graeme
08-17-2004, 06:19 AM
"...didn't get in the RR Good Guy list several times over for nothing!"

"Prove you are a man of your word, refund the money."

"I will, I ust can't give what I don't have at the moment. "

You, theoretically, had the goods. You took the money.

You, theoretically, still have the goods - and spent the money without honoring the commitment you made...

And you have the temerity to brag about bein' a "good guy"?!!! We've got a couple other names for it down home. They're usually used just before someone imitates Muhammad Ali.

Thanks for the warning, guys. I definitely won't be the one to test this guy's honesty.

WillJames
08-17-2004, 06:47 AM
OK Guys. Mike said he would make good. Especially if your not directly involved, please give him a chance to make good. This post is here out in the open for everybody to see. I'm sure the people directly involved will be keeping us all up to date, so if your not directly involvbed, please just sit back and see how it unfolds.

It is far better to let these guys work things out than for a bunch of people who are not involved to start in on Mike.

Thank you very much.

Talk it out and get this behind you guys please.

garyl
08-17-2004, 07:59 AM
Baja170,
I totaly agree with you, But getting this behind us is totally up to Mike (MHF).

Shannon Davis
08-17-2004, 08:25 AM
Baja is right--let those involved settle it.

I do think that if you owe someone money you need to make every effort to satisfy the debt. This may mean not buying fuel or parts for a while. I for one could not enjoy flying w/ fuel I bought w/ someone elses money. :?

ThBrtmn
08-17-2004, 08:25 AM
Thanks Will...
And I agree, if you are not involved and choose not to do business because what has been said...Great. But if you are not involved you are only 3rd party and we need only to hear from 2 parties....Thanks guys.

WillJames
08-17-2004, 09:27 AM
I know a lot of people are very excited about this thread and have a lot to say but please show respect for all the people involved. HF is here to help facilitate the working out of problems like this, and to be effective, this thread needs to be posted to by the people involved and not 3rd parties. This is the last you should hear from anyone other than the people directly involved.

Thank you very much everybody,

Mike Fortin
08-17-2004, 09:29 AM
Again,
I do apologize and have made every effort to make things right.

V-22 Osprey
08-20-2004, 09:21 PM
Well another week has gone by and still no engine from MHF. I sent him a PM earlier this week and he told me it was all good. He also wants me to tell everyone when the engine comes in…not sure how long I’m supposed to wait. I paid him $145.00 on the 26th and after a week of no replies I jumped into one of his post on RR to provoke a response. This upset him enough to reply saying it had been shipped last week, this was the 1st of Aug...shipped last week of july! According to MHF it is still in the mail. He has no tracking information and has done nothing since except say it’s in the mail. I have had hundreds of things shipped to me with no problems. I’m on a military base, if you get the zip right it will get to me. If it is lost (not very likely) he needs to step up and take responsibility.

Toad
08-21-2004, 10:00 AM
Thnx for the heads-up on this guy, I say he has shown his worth, and posting it here is the right thing, so others like myself (third party) dont become a "second party" to theifs like this. if ya sell something ya ship it the very next day, with tracking of some sort, simple, honest and fair, end of story.

Mike Fortin
08-21-2004, 04:25 PM
I apologize to GaryL and V-22 Osprey for the mishap.

Mike Fortin
08-21-2004, 04:28 PM
V-22,
I apolozigze and will do everything I can to make this mishap up to you.

jhodges
08-21-2004, 05:09 PM
Guys,

Same story he told me about the carb .... I do TONS of biz with the USPS with no problems. Of the hundreds of things I have shipped, the one time I had a problem I personally took care of the buyer.

It seems like everything he ships gets lost :?

NolanManley
08-21-2004, 08:01 PM
"Don't go calling people theives if you have no idea of the story."


Yeah.... but most who have delt with you have a story... usually BAD!

I've never had as much stuff lost as you seem to have thru any shipping service.

Do you think it just might be your haphazard way of living life. Shhheeett No I'm sure you couldn't think that! Guess your ex girl friend did.

cdrking
08-21-2004, 09:13 PM
I think if a guy wants to make a good deal he will. It seems like this guy doesn't want to make good deals. I for one am tired of getting shafted with internet deals and am glad someone is bringing this guy's name out in the open.

If helifreak.com wants us to lay off the guy then maybe you should hire MR as your moderator. He's the one who said to lay off Lior and not let the mob go after him.

Well I think the mob has spoken, DON'T SCREW PEOPLE OVER!

Jeff