RotorWorkz G10 Frame Review

[Awamori]

I would also like to hear if anyone has found a flanged bearing for the G-10 frames. My carbon frames have now survived two hard thumpings, and I'm not really eager to trash bearings just to try the frames I have out. Any help with a source would be appreciated.

[RyanW]

Awamori-
The bearings aren't flanged. The bearings are found in this package from Align- H60088T (4 in a package). The bearing holder is what the big fuss is about. It is the part that is pressed and mechanically secured to the frame.

-Ryan

[Mercuriell]

Awamori-
The bearings aren't flanged. The bearings are found in this package from Align- H60088T (4 in a package). The bearing holder is what the big fuss is about. It is the part that is pressed and mechanically secured to the frame.

-Ryan

I think that's the problem- if you could get a flanged bearing to stick in the frame direct you wouldn't need to extricate the holder to mount it in. What are the holders held in the CF frame with - must be some sort of adhesive - would a bit of judiciously applied heat help ?

[R1Time]

I wouldnt use heat on CF it will weaken and get brittle. Taking apart my CF arrows for archery I use the heat. The arrow is no longer good.

[RyanW]

Maybe this will make things a little more clear. The bearing holder can't simply be pressed out without crushing the carbon fiber or aluminum frame-

[Awamori]

Awamori-
The bearings aren't flanged. The bearings are found in this package from Align- H60088T (4 in a package). The bearing holder is what the big fuss is about. It is the part that is pressed and mechanically secured to the frame.

-Ryan

I think that's the problem- if you could get a flanged bearing to stick in the frame direct you wouldn't need to extricate the holder to mount it in. What are the holders held in the CF frame with - must be some sort of adhesive - would a bit of judiciously applied heat help ?

John has it right. I thought after looking over the whole set-up in my CF frame that all I would actually need for my G-10 frame would be some flanged bearings. I could then CA them in. (even though I don't think it would be neccessary if they were interference fit)

My whole basis is I don't want to tear up my Align CF frames just to test this new Rotorworkz frame. It's worth the purchase for me, the only problem is where and if flanged bearings are available for the specs we need. So far it don't look good. :lol:

Guess for now my G-10 will just chill on the shelf till I trash the CF. The way things have been going it should be tomorrow. :roll:

[RyanW]

Here you go- http://bocabearings.com/main1.aspx?p=product&id=3072&n=MF685-ZZ

[Awamori]

Nice find....has anyone tried these? I measure 11.25 OD for the bearing hole in the G-10 frame. So interefence fit is out of the question. If all the other numbers are good I will test them out for the hell of it.

[Rotorworkz]

RyanW,

My apologies you or anyone else that has had a bad experience with removing frame bearing adapters. I have been looking into using flanged bearings myself as I have a set and plan to test them. Please contact me via PM or Email and I will do my best to help you out :wink:

[Finless]

Well I cant figure out the issue.....
King Kong came over with his CF frames to have me remove the bearing holder and put them in the G10 frame. Took me all of 5 minutes!
I used 2 sockets. One that was just oversized of the OD of the bearing holder (The large outside OD) and one the was just under the OD of the inside of the holder. Checked it all up in a vise and pressed them right out. Did the reverse and pressed them in the G10 frames.

I didnt see what the big problem was?

Bob

[RyanW]

Bob, did you see the graphic of the way the aluminum is deformed over the inside of the frame? When I pressed them out of the carbon frame, there was a lot of carbon left in the groove. The OD of the bearing holder that is on the inside of the frame was around 11.62mm and the hole in the frame was 10.9mm. So you are just lining up these two and crushing the G-10 to the point of accepting the bearing holder? That is kind of like pushing out a rivet in one piece and then just pushing it back into something else with the lip on each side still intact and expecting everything to be okay :roll:

Thanks for the message battlercon, I will contact you. I hope that most people realize that 95% of my "ranting" is about the bearing holders, not your product. I hope that some flanged bearings will be the ticket!

[Finless]

Yes when I pushed them out there was carbon in the groove. So?
I realized they were pressed over on the original carbon frames but we were not trying to "save" the carbon frames.
Pressing them in the G10 frames was no problem and it did not deform them. They basically "popped" right in.

Bob

[Awamori]

Yes when I pushed them out there was carbon in the groove. So?
I realized they were pressed over on the original carbon frames but we were not trying to "save" the carbon frames.
Pressing them in the G10 frames was no problem and it did not deform them. They basically "popped" right in.

Bob

Bob,
For me "saving" the carbon frames is exactly what I want to do. That's why I'm thinking the flanged bearing idea will work for these applications where saving the frames is paramount.

However if my frames were trashed I would have done exactly as you guys did and press them out of the CF frame. It just kind of sucks that you would have to have trashed frames to make this frame work as an up-grade.

Quality and durability are all awesome with this Rotorworks frame. I just feel flanged bearings would have locked the frame together from the get-go. I would have paid 10 bucks extra to just have them laying in the bag with the plates. .02

[sd2602]

I just got my 600 (aluminum version) today! I also ordered the G10 frameplanning on just building my kit with them, however after reading through this post I think I will just wait and build with the aluminum frames. I really dont want to ruin my aluminum frames, has the flanged bearing idea worked out?