Does anybody in this site fly Hirobo Shuttles??

[Eric C.]

I just joined this site a few days ago, and was wandering if i could talk to someone who knew a fair amount of Shuttles.

[WayneBrown]

a shuttle was my very first heli.
A bud at home flies one now, I have had to work on it for him. What are you needing? maybe I can remember..

[Shuttle RG]

Hello,

I am new to helis too, but I have 3 Shuttles, an RG/M, an RG, and a Shuttle T/S (Top Start). Not sure if I can help but I know someone here can. What's up?

Clark

[Eric C.]

This is my first heli too to be flying, started flying about 6 weeks ago, and have mastered hovering in all directions both on a sim and in the real thing, starting foward flight.
I was just wondering if it's possible for this thing to be programed for idle up/enverted flight.

[mudbogger2]

I was just wondering if it's possible for this thing to be programed for idle up/enverted flight.

Absolutley.
Do you have your radio manual handy? I do not recall if the T6XH has 3 point or 5 point throttle curves. You will need to setup a throttle curve for idle1 to engauge with a switch. The throttle curve will looke like a "v" example:
0= 100%
50= 75%
100 = 100%

[Eric C.]

first of all, before you start to get all technical with me, what is a "throttle curve?"

[Eric C.]

ok, i get that, but what would be the degree of the collective disk at 0 and 100, then at 50?

[WayneBrown]

lets clarify:
There is a separate throttle curve and pitch curve for each flight condition in your radio, one for normal mode, one for idle up 1, and another for idle up 2.
Normal mode is for hovering and testing throttle mixture. this is not intended to be setup for inverted flight, think of it as the safe zone.
Idle up 1 and/or 2 gives you the opportunity to set midstick throttle to sustain inverted flight, or increased throttle for aerobatics.

Pitch curves should be linear, or even from 0-50-100, limit the total throw of pitch with ATV in your case, or mechanically adjusting the servo arm mounting point for the ball. The higher the number on ATV, the more the servo rotates, limiting the ATV over mechanically setting it correctly increases wear on the servo and shortens it's life. As a rule, pitch curves are the same for all three flight modes, for this purpose leave all three modes linear.
Pitch range should be -10 low stick, 0 midstick, and positive 10 at high stick.
Assuming you have this setup and hovering at a decent headspeed we will progress with the steps for idle-up.
(if you have too low or too high a headspeed, mechanically adjust the throttle linkage to get it right before moving on)
confirm headspeed in normal mode by hovering heli. shut it off and return to bench. Enter programming mode, and note the throttle position at midstick, visually see where the throttle arm is on the chopper.
Activate both idle up modes, and set 100-50-100 on throttle. at midstick your throttle should be in the same position as you visually confirmed earlier.
Trial and error time, fly heli and hit idle up 1, note increase in RPM. If it's within acceptable boundries, flip the heli into an inverted hover. The engine RPM should be nearly the same as right side up. If not, adjust throttle linkage.
If memory serves, normal was 0-50-100, idle up 1 was 100-53-100, and idle up 2 was 100-60-100. Don't take those numbers as gospel, they were trial and errored to get the headspeed required as outlined above.
start small and sneak up on it is the safest way to protect your equipment.

[Corkscrew]

The Shuttle is my favorite heli! I made the mistake of trading my first Shuttle Plus for a Freya Evo (I added a lot of upgrades to make it even). The avatar I'm using is the first shuttle I'd traded off.

A month later... I missed it so much, I got a Shuttle Plus & a Shuttle +2.

I've the +2 in near SXX configuration, except that I mounted the rudder servo on the tail instead of up front. Naturally, I'm using the new tail that comes along with it rather than the old SXX tail.

The Shuttle Plus is nearly an RG, with the exception of the main frame which is still the original plastic frame. Both are in SWM format (CCPM).

The +2 is flying well - not that I'm that good a pilot still. Been at it only for 7 months. The SP is still in the box along with all the upgrade parts.

[ZXXflyer]

I've been flying a ZXX for two years... Let me know if I can help with anyhting

[DarkSideSimba]

I am like everyone else here, I started with a ZXX and had just about every Shuttle version made. I now have 5 Evos, 6 other make helis and still find myself looking back on the Shuttles all the time. I really miss them, and prob sooner then later I will once again have another Shuttle in my fleet. They were simple to work on, fun to fly and very easy to learn on. Of all Shuttles I gotta say the Shuttle Challenge was of all my most favorite. Only down side of the Shuttle line was that they were only 30 size birds. Well till the Sceadu line emerged. But yeah, the Shuttles do bring back great memories. Please by all means let me kno if I can help you any.

DSS

[ZXXflyer]

Darkside:
No way dude....I have bought parts from you on e-bay...whats up My id is What_eva
I still fly my ZXX now I have a Hawk Pro too

[gutrench23]

HOW DO I GET NEG 10 DEGREES AT O STICK. DO I HAVE TO ADJUST THE LINKAGE. ALSO WILL MY CO PILOT WORK IN INVERTED FLIGHT.
HIROBO SHUTTLE SCEDU 30
FUTABA T9CHP
THANK YOU I AM NEW. HAVE DONE WELL WITH HOVERING WITH THE CO PILOT, ONLY NEED IT FOR LANDING NOW.

[Jafa]

On the 30 you should only need -9 degrees (-10 too much hard work for the 30)
If you have a straight pitch curve, 0, 25, 50, 75, 100
and set the heli up for 0 degrees at mid stick 50
then you should easy get -9 to +9

The CoPilot is for stability - not aerobatics
Not sure about inverted but I would assume not

[gutrench23]

On the 30 you should only need -9 degrees (-10 too much hard work for the 30)
If you have a straight pitch curve, 0, 25, 50, 75, 100
and set the heli up for 0 degrees at mid stick 50
then you should easy get -9 to +9

The CoPilot is for stability - not aerobatics
Not sure about inverted but I would assume not



ok, i got 0 at mid stick-9 low and +9 high. i used to have 0 at low and it went up from there, so im assuming now i have to resetup the throttle to give me the proper rpm.. also, in this set up if im hovering around and i get into trouble and throw the stick down below the midstick mark, its gonna slam down hard because of the neg pitch, right? i set up the idle1 to 100 50 100 so i can mess with some inverted flight.. sorry for being so hectic, i had this thing set by a hobby shop, and now that im getting into it i realize instead of adjust in the linkages correctly they just messed with the thows and the end points. so i have been hard at work trying to learn as much as possible.
thank you bill

[Jafa]

You will use the end points for the collective
Make sure that at 0 pitch your servo is in the middle of it's travel
and the horn is at 90 degrees to the link

Starting point:
Normal mode throttle curve 0 30 40 50 100
Normal mode pitch curve 25 37.5 50 75 100

With that normal mode setup she won't come down too fast
But you will need to get used to it

Ilde up throttle 100 50 100
idle up pitch curve 0 50 100

[gutrench23]

cool. i was gonna try hovering today but realized i am out of fuel so, gotta get some. thank you for the help, give it a try tommorow

[sam2300]

Been flying shuttle for donkey years. My shuttle slowly evolving from ZXX spec to all metal upgrades including SE frameset ,SZ3 head etc and recently becoming my standby ship as I got myself a Titan. Last weekend I somehow managed to strip the collective servo horn on the Titan, so I fired the Shuttle flew for a few tanks.... still good and fast for a ten year old heli and more economical on the fuel too.

[drusmart]

What does it take to make a shuttle +2 3D capable? I know it's not full 3d capable but how far can I take it? I've been flying it for 2 months now and I'm starting to get real curious. :dontknow

[drusmart]

I have a shuttle plus2 and would like to invert, etc. Would it be wise to switch to hirobo glass blades(570mm)

[mudbogger2]

The shuttle plus will do 3d in the hands of a skilled pilot. You need to have a pitch curve of +/-9 to +/-10. A good set of 550mm carbon or at least fiberglass blades. Lightweight paddles are also good too. The more powerful 37 size engines will give a better power to weight ratio for 3d flying also.

The biggest key to inverted flight is having symmetrical blades. Wood or carbon. Woodies will fly upside down. They just don't like agressive flying and/or high headspeeds.
If you are ready for inverted flight you are ready for some carbon blades. Even if only some of the cheap ones.

[xptical]

Could one of you tell me what kind of aileron and elevator pitch you are getting.

I'm running an OS .37 on 30% nitro. I settled for +/-9 on collective. However, I'm seeing +/-5 on elevator and +/-4 on aileron.

I don't think that's enough. Ideas?

[gouki74]

hi guys! im new here and my friend recently got a used shuttle ZXX. he tried rebuilding the os 32 engine, im not sure what the specific model is. our question is, is there a proper way to replace the piston ring? when he disassembled the motor, the piston ring crumbled so he replaced it with a new one. when he was assembling the engine, the new piston ring crumbled away during building. he says it must have been an old stock from the LHS. now i'm thi9nking maybe there's a trick to it and that won't break the ring. what do you guys think? he got a really good deal on the shuttle and everything is ok except for the piston ring. thanks guys!

[justrideit]

ive been flying electric for a few years and now i dont know where to begin with the shuttle any one have a owners manual or what it should look like working?? of course the guy gave it to me after a minor wreck

[xptical]

This should help:

http://crono34.tripod.com/shuttle.htm

If you have any problems, let me know. Feel free to PM me and I can photo or video any part of my Shuttle for you.