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Jerry
12-06-2006, 11:24 PM
This is useful information for first time Eraptor builders with the 12Z and 14MZ.

Plug servos in as follows.
Forward Servo - Channel 4 (AIL)
Middle Servo - Channel 6 (PIT)
Rear Servo - Channel 5 (ELE)

By Menu:

Model Type - Helicopter/HE3 Swash
Swash - AIL +XX ELE -XX PIT +XX (see below for values)
Servo Reverse - AIL REV, ELE NOR, PIT NOR

In the "Swash" menu I found the default 14MZ default swash values yielded:

AIL +50 Cyclic 7 degrees
ELE -50 Cyclic 7 degrees
PIT +50 Collective +10.5 to -10.5

I settled on the following prelim values to continue the complete 14MZ Swash Detail Setup:

AIL +60 Cyclic 8 degrees
ELE -60 Cyclic 8 degrees
PIT +62 Collective +13 to -13

Hope this may be useful to some builders with these radios to get you through this step quicker.

Jerry
12-06-2006, 11:24 PM
I also want to pass along that with 9451 servos and the standard type arms/wheels, you may find it helpful to space the ELE servo (rear servo) away from frameset by adding an extra servo plate between servo and servo tray. This will add a little required clearance between standard futaba wheels (if used) and the servo tray ribbing.

If you use the 17mm wheel on the ELE, it will have to be dremeled for rotational fitting. Additional shaving on the rear side is necessary to prevent rod-end rub on the wheel at deflections. With the arms this is not necessary. I choose to use wheels for their strength, as do others, so hope the info is useful.

I elected to use the 17mm diameter Futaba servo wheels in lieu of the included heavy duty 9451 arms. Simply because I continue to refuse subtrim use on my ccpm setups.

Jerry

Jerry
12-06-2006, 11:24 PM
The manual's stated ccpm control rod values work pretty well.

132mm, 75mm, and 155mm. With the vertical servo orientation, varying brands of servos should all work the same. Servo axle placement between brands can vary, and this is the reason why with the standard raptor - stated values arent always valid. (some axles are further back or forward in the servo case, which changes servo rod lengths)
With the E-raptor, the only variance will be the relationship between bellcranks and servo axle centers. Although I do not think it will become a critical geometry issue, do keep it in mind. We shall see.

Once the push pulls are done, i used a Miniature Aircraft Swash leveling tool (upside down) to level the swash with servos centered using the SERVO MONITOR-NEUTRAL TEST function of 14MZ.

I had to lengthen the AIL and PIT bellcrank links (left and right sideframe bellcranks) by one turn each to level the swash fore/aft.

Jerry