Airstar International JetCopter SX

[BeyondLimits135]

Here is another option, made by Airstar International and powered by JetCat, for those who are interested in buying a turbine that can do a full series of aerobatics. This setup takes the guesswork out of getting a fully capable turbine machine that can be adapted to AP, 3-D, scale or just flying around and having fun.

Adam

[wingtip]

lol.... airstar and joseph rates right up there with TT and neil....

[DavidH]

http://www.arizonaheli.com/jetcopter.htm


Here are a few pics of my new Vario JetCopter. AWESOME machine!




Getting it from Vario would be OK.

Also at least give credit on the pictures from where they were copied.


Dvid

[Heli_jack]

lol.... airstar and joseph rates right up there with TT and neil....

Well Airstar is an illegal word at RR now......



Also at least give credit on the pictures from where they were copied.

That sounds just like the Adam we have all grown to know.

[BeyondLimits135]

I got the picture from the address below:

http://www.airstarintl.com/turbine.html

And quite frankly Jack, you have proven yourself to be a real piece of work. You seem to be the only person who has a stick up his @$$ around here about me as you have from the start. The 100+ other people who have recently received stuff from me apparently don't share your very unsubstantiated and biased opinion!

The picture is of a helicopter flying inverted that looks to be an Airstar machine.

Adam

[DavidH]

I got the picture from the address below:

http://www.airstarintl.com/turbine.html



Yeah and ASI posted the picture without giving credit where it came from.

Here is where the picture was posted a couple hours after it was made.


http://www.arizonaheli.com/images/Jason%20hovering%20JetCopter.jpg


David

[BeyondLimits135]

David,

Sorry, I was unaware of that and have removed the picture.

Adam

[Heli_jack]

You got involved with ASI Adam, you fell into his trap and are paying for a mistake. I am very sorry for you that this happened. I would be angry too in your shoes

I made no statements. I just quoted what was already put on this thread.

I will give you $25 paypal for a 5 bladed head hub, 10 or 12 mm. Best I can offer. (plus reasonable shipping)
Jack

[Greg Alderman]

The video of Jason flying Bill's JetCopter is pretty good and was taken back a couple of years ago when no one else had the gonads to do anything with a turbine besides fly it around in circles...

Adam...I don't believe in putting down anyones helicopter...I have owned a JetCat HotCat prior to owning Wren powered machines and will say the the HotCat was a decent flying heli...I don't think I would have ever gotten comfortable enough with it to try any 3D or even mild loops and rolls...but it was also my first turbine and I was always being told that "turbines can't do aerobatics!" I think the Bergen Turbine and a couple of other Wren powered machines are really changing that opinion of turbines these days (I also assume the the new 2 stage JetCat turbine system will do the same...although I still have not seen one in the air...hopefully someday so I can see with my own eyes that it is not a "mythical" creature!)...but I guess what I am getting at is that there is a good following for the JetCopter...as it seems to be a good machine...but to get people to believe that it is capable of 3D or even mild aerobatics you really need to get some video's of "normal" people doing 3D and aerobatics with it...that is how the Bergen Turbine and others have become more known as 3D'able Turbines...

I love watching ANY turbine loop and roll and perform mild 3D...doesn't matter if it is a Bergen, Predator, JetCopter, etc...Turbines are cool! so....POST some vids dude! Show us that us lowly mortals can fly a JetCopter through inverted backwards circuits, doing tictocs, etc! :D :D

We all know that Jason could fly a rock with 2x4's as rotorblades...so his video flying Bill's JetCopter doesn't count as a "mortal" doing Turbine 3D!!! :D

[BeyondLimits135]

Greg,

I am going to try to get some video posted here shortly of the JetCopter SX doing a full series of aerobatics, including inverted hovering.

Jack,

I have one 12mm 5 bladed hub that was never used on a helicopter and is not in the original bag that I will give you for $45 + $8.95 shipping ($4.05 for priority mail, $4.40 for full insurance and $0.50 for delivery confirmation). One of the five "arms" needs to be sanded a little bit as it has a few surface imperfections, possibly from all of the moving that it has been through. I am sure that it would be no problem for you to sand those few spots out if you would like it. Otherwise, I have a few more still in the Vario bags and I would give one to you for $75 + $8.95 shipping.

-Adam

[Heli_jack]

Thanks Adam, not at this time, I appreciate your return offer.
Jack

[wolfdad]

Man, oh man! How time does fly and how some things never change, while others change.

Mild 3D Greg????? :wink: That reply from Greg was made almost a year ago. Talk about change....WOW! Greg, in many ways wrote the book on turbine 3D....take a look at his video from the IRCHA Jamboree last year.

Having been OBE (Overcome by Events) over the past several months, I have just really started catching up and had to chuckle as I read this thread through its progression....incredible how far we have come with turbine heli's and yet, how far we still can go with these fantastic machines. And, as I read on, I find that constant product improvement seems to be a key issue with almost all of the turbine manufacturers. The question now is just how far can we safely go??? I firmly believe we have just touched the tip of the iceberg.

You know, it was only two years ago that the Bergen turbine made its debute at Birmingham....seems like yesterday for this old fart, yet the Bergen just gets better and better. I thought I was out on the "cutting edge" with my 4 blade Bergen, however I know I have just scratched the surface.

Two Christmas' ago I predicted that turbines would be "the" heli of the future and that prices would start coming down as more competition entered the arena and, to a degree, that has happened (the prices haven't dropped all that much, but the technology has far surpassed the costs). I was most fortunate to have been, along with Alderman, one of the few who knew that the Bergen turbine was coming and, indeed, it has been everything promised and more.

On the scale side of the house, we have barely begun to explore the potential. Folks like Dr. Tim, Peter Wales and Len Mount have led us into a scale world with almost unlimited potential. Museum quality scale heli's that are carbon copies of their full-size counterparts are now becoming the rule rather than the exception.

I guess I say all of this in retrospect because, were I just coming into the hobby right now vice returning almost six years ago, I would have my eyes on a turbine from the get-go. Bad enough that I have four of the buggers right now.

Personally, I would be interested in a thread re-counting where our fellow turbine heli fliers started, where they have been and where they are now. Kind of a neat subject for this new year.
Doc

PS Adam, are you still looking for a home for that 5 blade head? PM me if so.

[Gary Travis]

Doc, don't know where I started and don't know where I'm going but I am on the way!!
Also I would agree that the debut of the Bergen turbine seems like just last week, I am happy that it is turned out so well and so many people are enjoying them. I don't think I could have asked for a happier outcome. Chris and Larry have done a great job getting them out at a reasonable price,and great service.
Gary

[wolfdad]

Gary,
Almost like waking up and thinking you had a dream!

Lots of credit to go around on the Bergen with you and Troy in the lead two years ago. It could not have turned out better and the potential is mind-boggling. Larry, Chris and staff have done an absolutely fantastic job in both building and marketing a quality US product. And, no conversation about the Bergen is complete without mentioning Wren. The combination is unbeatable.

I know that two years ago a lot of us were just getting our feet wet with turbines and a lot of folks were waiting on the sideline to see what was going to happen. Obviously, a lot of the folks waiting are now flying and the knowledge base has expanded incredibly....take for instance, Don Perry's comments about the clear fuel tanks. It is stories like this that I am most curious to hear.
Doc

[3dheli-nut]

I got my Jetcopter in 2003 and played with different heads and blades, no one but vario hade blades available and I was stuck with there scale blades as they provided the best lift. I was able to do rolls, loops, funnels and some inverted flight @ 1400 head speed. consecutive rolls where no problem and autos where a dream come true. I never had a heli that auto'ed as nice as my jetcopter. I have to say that there was no one else at the time doing the same with a turbine heli. Top speed was recorded @ 72 mph with 14 degrees of pitch. So I will have to say the light 3D was obtainable at the time with what we had available, I would have loved to get the head speed higher but I could not convince Jetcat to up the max rpm's on the motor and no other gear ratio was available.

I opted to scale her out in a Hughes 500 fuse which was a ball to fly for two plus years before selling it to a guy in Italy. :?

We now have access to a better selection of blades, mechanics, power plants etc... but we will continue to be a very small group compared to IC powered and electric power copters due to the cost involved. even the fixed wing guys as I am one of them :badair: can put together a complete aircraft at about just the cost of a HP5 or a two stage unit.

I just picked up a artes super eagle (30 lbs) and a extreme jets Rafale for about 4,500.00

Alan