Rotorworkz New 7.0 Lbs achievable T-600 frame kit

[fireup]

I'm Curious. Why change the 600 rotor head fireup?

Seems excellant as is.

Your efforts in designing and making your frame are to be complimented. You have a lot of work there.

.........Dennis

I built this Heli mainly as a learning process. This was my first heli design and build. So, to see it fly and knowing it's not just am exact "clone", it is more exciting to me. Also, because I allready have a Trex600, I didn't want another one that flies the same....

I went with this head design because it has the least amount of parts to make, (at first thought anyway). And with the Moving Flybar Head, there is no washout and extra linkage, so there's less play from swash plate to the blades.

Here is my CAD design. The only thing left to make is the skids and canopy. I'm not sure if I'm going to make the canopy, the the Trex canopy fits just fine right now.

[dennis@deetee]

Well, looks as though you have a whole new helicopter there fireup. Once you do the skids and canopy, you no longer have a T Rex. Except for the tail, of course.

I do like the top motor mount. That changes the CG's in a good way, and also gets it in a better position for cooler running. You would think so anyway.

Congrats on your effort there. Looks interesting.

............Dennis

[Rotorworkz]

Will the rotorworkz frame come in CF?

Boogie,

Yes I will have CF right now it will be in limited quantity for the first runs

[gordohigh]

I use the JR DS3421, (metal gear version), on all my logo's and prefer the performance over the 9650. I have never stripped a gear, and have seen no slop develop over a year's time.

IMHO this would be the premeir sevo for this frame, If it fits. Can't see why it wouldn't

Might be another good alternative for your new frame Charley... :glasses2:

[rdespins]

Do you not find the servo slow at 0.18s?

Ron

[BOOGIE]

How thick are the frames and how much are they going to be?

[Rotorworkz]

I use the JR DS3421, (metal gear version), on all my logo's and prefer the performance over the 9650. I have never stripped a gear, and have seen no slop develop over a year's time.

IMHO this would be the premeir sevo for this frame, If it fits. Can't see why it wouldn't

Might be another good alternative for your new frame Charley... :glasses2:

Thank you for your input gordohigh since the first picture a few things have changed with this frame. An option to use different mini / sub sized servos is one of them.

Please anyone else have any input I make these frames as a personal Hobby and would enjoy having this frame as a shared masterpiece :wink:

So..... I would like to consider anyones thoughts towards design in this frame, bare in mind please keep it within the spectrum of its initial design purpose "lighter weight over stock"

Maybe when its done we can Call it the "Heli Freak Edition"

[Rotorworkz]

How thick are the frames and how much are they going to be?

Boogie,

Thickness is going to be 1.7mm in G-10 and 1.65mm in CF

[Finless]

Well I guess I will leak out my plans :)

Many of you saw the 8S test vid I posted a few days ago? Well those were FlightPower 8S 3700 packs.

Now Charlie's frame drops a lot of weight so imagine if you will going to Flightpower 4350 packs now? Based on my calulations weight will be still under a stock Trex600 6S with these but now flight time will be up! I am thinking maybe 7 minutes possibly of hard 3D if not for sure 6!

I will also be trying 8S 4900 as well.

Beginning of the year is going to be FUN!

Bob

[Ticidytoc]

Got the kit the other day. Everything fits perfectly. This is the prototype and the final run should be even better with some nice improvements. The frames are not however PnP. No big deal, Charlie includes everything in the kit you will need to put it together. Don't whine, you put the heli together, so you can snap in some blind nuts. If you don't know what these are, you will after Finless does his build videos on it.

You will have to trim the canopy for a Neu 1515, 1512, and the Zpower 50.

The zpower motor sits flush with the top of the canopy, the neu1515 sticks out, and the 1512 is flush excet for wires.

I still need to clean some wiring up and check radio setup. I may be able to get a flight in today.

I will post all up weights, and photos later. I think you guys will like this kit a lot !

[TomSardea]

battlercon,

When can we get the G10 frames? and how much would it cost? I just purchased a T600 alluminum frame (barebones) and no servos yet :mrgreen: This is going to be a perfect upgrade for me, and what servos do you recommend? Is there a Metal Mini Digi Servos that I can use w/your frame?

Thanks,
Tomie

[rdespins]

One thing that would be nice is a bearing support for the end of the motor shaft.

Is the CF much lighter than the g10 version?

[BOOGIE]

Hay Finless where do you get the 8S 3700 packs? Are is it 3 4s 3700 packs?

[king kong]

i believe that the 8s packs aren't avaliable yet. I have a couple 8s brick packs, and a couple 4s packs doubled up. no difference in performance or anything

[Rotorworkz]

battlercon,

When can we get the G10 frames? and how much would it cost? I just purchased a T600 alluminum frame (barebones) and no servos yet :mrgreen: This is going to be a perfect upgrade for me, and what servos do you recommend? Is there a Metal Mini Digi Servos that I can use w/your frame?

Thanks,
Tomie

Tomie,

I am awaiting reports from guys hold prototypes Before I start Making the kits so it won't be long
These are servo's that I know of
Futaba 9650's
Hitec HS5245
JR ????? Need one (JR Guys)

Charley

[Rotorworkz]

One thing that would be nice is a bearing support for the end of the motor shaft.

Is the CF much lighter than the g10 version?

I will look at that as an optional part
This is my "guess" on weight CF 15-20 grams Max. lighter per side frame

Charley

[BOOGIE]

Im wondering about the performance of the Futaba 9650 servos on a 50 size heli. Does anyone know another 50 size heli using these servos? I know they work good in the Logo 10 but they swings 500s.

[BoneDoc]

Logo 14

BTW, what kind of weight have people been hitting with the stock setup??

[TomSardea]

Tomie,

I am awaiting reports from guys hold prototypes Before I start Making the kits so it won't be long
These are servo's that I know of
Futaba 9650's
Hitec HS5245
JR ????? Need one (JR Guys)


Thanks :D Ill wait for the test report before I start building and buying servos.
I already sold my 450 and Im itching for some flight time. hehe

[BOOGIE]

My 600 is 7.4 Ib with tp 5000 6s pack

[Finless]

Tom, are you asking about Charlies replacement Trex600 G10 frames or this new design with motor on top? If you just want replacement frames then he has them already. If you want this new frame with motor on top, that is what Charlie is saying will be out soon.

Bob

[TomSardea]

Hi Bob,

Ill would like to try the new motor on top. (If I can afford it) hehe.
What do you think? should I wait or just get the replacement G10 side frames?

Thanks!!

[Finless]

Thats up to you... if you want the motor on top you will have to wait :)


So you know Charlies replacment Trex600 frames allow different motors under as he modified the frame to allow that.

Look later in this forum and you will se my and tickity's review.

Bob

[gordohigh]

Charlie, It's the JR DS3421, (metal gear version). These are what I have in all my logo's, and are the best servo IMHO, for the job....

A little pricey, but well worth the money, especially after a crash with no damage to the servo...... :glasses2:

[Finless]

What is the speed of those?

Bob