New to Bergen

[sqito]

The bergen Turbine looks like an awesome heli. I was wondering around how much would a hovering/sport flying setup would be. I looked on the bergen web site and it was not available(not like i would be so quick to buy something for 7000 dollars anyway). Where can you buy the turbine heli? I'm judging by other posts that the dx7's servos are big enough. Also how do you guys feel about the heli's durrability?
Thanks.

[PaulH]

I'm not trying to dissuade you from buying a turbine, but there is a LOT of responsibility in owning one. According to your blog, you own a CP2 and a Trex 450. I don't think you have the background necessary to get a turbine up and running. To fly legally you will need to get a turbine waiver. In order to obtain that, you have to demonstrate your flying proficiency using a non-turbine bird.

Do yourself a favor and buy a 50-sized kit first. Low-cost possibilities include the Raptor 50, Evo 50, Gohbee 50, Tiger 50, Trex 600, and e-Raptor 620.

[sqito]

i will not be buying a turbine immediatly ... I will probably be practicing with electricks first. I will be practicing with a logo 10 or logo 14 as a bigger heli for quite a while as i get the money ready, it will probably take a couple of years (and hopefully bergen will still be around by then). But i never knew about a waiver, so correct me if im wrong... a waiver willl be needed for a turbine but not a regular engine and will needed to gotten in a big city like sanfrancisco? Thank you very much for warning me.[/list]

[sqito]

But i don not know that at the time i will want to make such a big purchase, so thats why i was asking around how much would it cost for the flying heli.

[MarkWebber]

and hopefully bergen will still be around by then

I'd feel sure of that!

The turbine waiver is an AMA requirement to fly at sanctioned events and, presumably, AMA sponsered flying sites.

Since you're obviously not in any hurry to jump into one, keep practicing and it won't be long before you'll be ready to make the leap. I must admit that there isn't much to compare to a turbine. Awesome! Chris did give me a chance at the sticks. Admittedly, I was to awestruck to do much with it. Maybe another day, Chris? :wink:

When you're ready, Bergen will have one for you. :D

[rkeith2]

Read some of the current and past posts and you will become familiar with the turbines.

There is not much that comes close to the feeling when you spool one up and hit the skies; the smell, the sound, the power.

When you are ready, Bergen will be here and you will very happy with the equipment and the customer service.

Any questions please feel free to PM any of the Bergen folks :D

[v22chap]

Sqito
You not only need to do the turbine waiver flights in a non turbine bird ,,but you need to be able to do nose in hover ,auto ,and etc with a .60 size bird ,,if I remember the waiver forum right .

To try and answer some of your other questions .. I believe you are asking how much it cost accessory wise to fly a turbine >>? It take more than glow .. you need turbine oil to mix into the kerosene (around 13.00 a quart ) and a CO2 fire extinguisher (just in case of fire and is a must to protect your investment ) Bergen also recommends heavy duty digital servos for this large bird (digitals in the 100 oz area or more ) I don't think I would trust 72 oz servos on this 16 pound plus helicopter. We also like to run some reliable batteries for the RX and ECU /starter .. Like the duralite ION packs in the 4000 MAH range. You will need some 90 weight EP gear lube for the 2nd stage gear drive too. You will need a good tachometer or a bud with one to set the head RPM up right ...can't just guess on these large birds where it is at . You will also want duralites battery checker to keep an eye on the batteries ...
You need a pump and tank that will carry kerosene fuel,, and most of all you need a large truck or car to haul it to the field :wink: as it is a big bird. :WOW
Probably forgetting some stuff ,,but you get the picture ,,it takes another 1500.00 or more just for the extras to run the turbine right and care for it.
As far as how durable is it ... well really tuff. I put mine in this yr twice from a botch auto and a opps and it survived as good as any other gasser type bird. No turbine problems ,,just usual landing gear,main shaft , feathering shaft and a few bearings ,,didn't manage to even get the blades or the tail .
I love my Bergen turbine ,,there is nothing like a turbine and the sound ... kind of like a Harley Davidson bike :glasses2:
When you are ready Bergen R/C will be there to help you into it . Chris and all the other great Bergen people ,,,heck even most of the owners will bend over backwards to help a guy ,,,, and a lot of times ,,, even if he don't own a Bergen :wink: :glasses2: :hug:
The company service is tops in the business as is the turbine . :noteworthy

[cbergen]

I see Lary beat me to it, but I'll leave in my post as well........

The Turbine is available now, and I would recommend the highest quality servos you can afford.

I'm not sure which servos come with the DX7 system, but realize that the Turbine is a heavier machine than most gassers and all nitros, so requires a little more torque in the servos. Plus you want the most dependable with a very high dollar heli!!

The kit sells for $6850, you will need to add the UAT Bubble trap and Propane trigger ($100) and whatever radio gear you prefer including gyro, and batteries, such as the package from Duralite especially for the Bergen Turbine.

Everything else is included, Blades(810mm V-Blades), fuel tanks, fibreglass canopy.

You'll probably want to include a fuel container such as one from Jersey Modeler.com, and you'll need things like turbine oil and propane, as well as the kerosene.

HTH,

[sqito]

Okay!, when i looked at the price of the helicopter i kindof knew that i would need to get $10,000 ready. But know i will be practicing with large electrics. I'll be back!