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Finless
12-28-2006, 10:42 PM
rdespins, yea believe it or not I did see that in the vid... Actually I was impressed with the head speed. BUT you have to remember a Logo 10 is a lot less weight than a Trex600... BUT still... not too bad! I remember when I had to test a heli in those kind of conditions.

Anway... I would still like to see more. Spruce cant or is not willing to help so hopefully others will contribute and show one way or the other if these cells can do it or not. That is all I want to see.......

Bob

rdespins
12-28-2006, 10:44 PM
Thats an titan eraptor conversion.

Finless
12-28-2006, 10:50 PM
Ah OK.. sorry... looked like a logo 10 to me but maybe because robl said that too above so I just got it in my head it was.... Anyway didnt look too bad considering the conditions......

Again would like to see more please reasonable conditions. AND NO.... I dont want it handed to me :mrgreen: Jusat share folks... thats is what a forum is for!

Bob

rdespins
12-28-2006, 10:52 PM
Did you download the 100meg video from tppacks Bob, sounds like your confused hehe.

ron

rcboosted
12-28-2006, 11:05 PM
spruce, wtf is the forum for if it's not for helping each other? Sure, if someone is asking, "how do I put together a trex 450", we can tell him/her to go look in the video section before asking more questions. For A123, it's far from common knowledge, the mere fact that many people are asking means it isn't something many people do every day. So if you know where it is, why not post it and help out? If you're not going to help, why are you here? Are you here just to show you're so far ahead of everyone else that you have more knowledge about a123 than everyone else? You want to show everyone you are better?

Finless
12-28-2006, 11:05 PM
Dude... you got a bad attitude bottom line. Why you gotta do this? I just asked you to show me and you get all bent out of shape.

Yes I did ask "show me" on the 10S and I was shown... SO WHAT is worng with that? Nothing I see.... It all turned out to be good in the end... YOU on the other hand are being a jerk by telling people to GO SEARCH. If you know where the info is WHY HIDE IT? Sheesh is it too much to ask that you share the info you have? Seems you just want to get all personal and stuff and your making this into a RR type thread.

Forums are here to share into and help people AND also learn yourself. This response here:
Yes you guessed it, I HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE .
No I'm tired of people ( in general) wanting shit handed to them, IF YOU WANT SOMETHING GO GET IT, DONT WAIT FOR SOMEONE TO HAND IT TO YOU.
Means you have one intention.... Come here to TAKE and not GIVE or just be here to be an ass..... I think many here know my purpose here... You might question it but I spend my days here ASKING, LEARNING, and SHARING...... NOT telling people to go FO and SEARCH as I dont feel like HANDING it to them... WTF is up with that?

I'll give you something to blow on . The only Ass here is the one telling people to move on because he's to stupid to use a shearch function, or to simple minded to think maybe there is info in "other" places. Everytime someone comes up with something "new" your the first one to doubt it ( lets think back to the 1st postings on a 10s trex) "show me" "I dont believe it until I see it". You want /expect everyone to take what you tell them for fact but when the shoe is on the other foot its, "show me or your full of it"

Robl. I said that is one of many, funny others can find the videos. I guess your "shearch" is broken.

Mercuriell joined sept 2006, yeah you caught me. your such the detective.

Anyhow FTR I always said A123s are Not lipo replacements, but they do work.
You guys will just have to wait for Bob to tell you that they work after he "sees some more videos.

Helpfull? Hmmm I seem to remeber donating to the freak, when it was ready to close shop, were you even here for that ?

I'm done with you boys on A123s, believe what you want, I've "seen" them and they work.

Finless
12-28-2006, 11:08 PM
Did you download the 100meg video from tppacks Bob, sounds like your confused hehe.

ron

I did but it cut out on me about 75%.... So I didnt see the end... Sorry.. I will try again.

BOb

Finless
12-28-2006, 11:10 PM
I still am only getting 3/4 of the video... It CUTS out on landing. Is something wrong with it?

Bob

rdespins
12-28-2006, 11:13 PM
Are you downloading this?

http://www.tppacks.com/video/eTitan%20Z50A-600%2015s-a123-M1%2011-19-06.wmv

ron

spruce
12-28-2006, 11:14 PM
Means you have one intention.... Come here to TAKE and not GIVE or just be here to be an ass

Yup your right Bob. you must have missed this part Helpfull? Hmmm I seem to remeber donating to the freak, when it was ready to close shop, were you even here for that ?


rcboosted.

All the A123 stuff you could ever want to know is at RcGroups, if you wont go there and read it, you must not want to know

Bob FOR THE RECORD. I told you where the info/VIDEOS were, REMEBER?? YOU are the one that refuses to go there, so dont pull that bullshit. I told YOU where to get the info. search RR and RcGroups, YOU refused.
If you were the true "almighty helper" you would have sacrificed a day at the freak to go do some reading.

I know Bob, Its my fault you wont go to any other sources of information but this one because your the "giver" and I'm the taker.

You never answered this question.
"Hmmm I seem to remeber donating to the freak, when it was ready to close shop, were you even here for that"

BoneDoc
12-28-2006, 11:24 PM
at least you can post the relevant links and pages. it's a freakin' huge thread. I personally would be interested in seeing a good TRex video on it, as a 10S pack will only cost 100 dollars or so.

Finless
12-28-2006, 11:43 PM
Spruce.... Man dude.... You got some serious negativity issues.
This thread is DERAILED because you seem to want to not share info you have and MAKE people go somewhere else to get it.... I told you I wont go there and said it already. Seems you want to FORCE me and other who dont want to go there to GO THERE.
So you donated to helifreak... Sheesh man... You have NO CLUE what I have donated and I wont even bring it up! BUT how about donating to what helifreak is here for! How about donating to what people are here to see and learn rather than telling people:


Yes you guessed it, I HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE .
No I'm tired of people ( in general) wanting shit handed to them, IF YOU WANT SOMETHING GO GET IT, DONT WAIT FOR SOMEONE TO HAND IT TO YOU.


If you dont think that above statement is a problem then go back to RCG and RR and poist this kind of crap there....

Actually it sounds more like you have some personal thing with me... If that is the case I would be glad to discuss offline and in fact you can call me 714-898-3494

Bob

Finless
12-28-2006, 11:51 PM
at least you can post the relevant links and pages. it's a freakin' huge thread. I personally would be interested in seeing a good TRex video on it, as a 10S pack will only cost 100 dollars or so.


Yea... me too.... yet Spruce wants to tell you all to GO SEARCH! Oh and do it on another forum.... Contribution here is not all about dollars it's also about content. I know I would share links to anything I knew about if I had the info!

Seems he doesnt want to help show others if A123 cells are worth it or not or has some alternative motive, or just wants to call me out?

I just asked a doubtful question to show me.... Now it's turned into a "I did this" thing... Sheesh man.....

This will be my last post about this subject with Spruce.... I took it too far already and reminds me of old RR days :(

"Hmmm I seem to remeber donating to the freak, when it was ready to close shop, were you even here for that"

BTW typical of someone that thinks they are OWED something because they GAVE something. Giving in good heart is never expecting something in return or USING it against someone!

Sorry,
Bob

Finless
12-29-2006, 12:26 AM
Are you downloading this?

http://www.tppacks.com/video/eTitan%20Z50A-600%2015s-a123-M1%2011-19-06.wmv

ron

Ron that rocked...

OK when you said 2700 HS I doubted it and it sounded more like about 2200 (and believe it or not I usually can guess it within 50) until he switched into idle 2.... That sounded pretty close but to me only about 2400 or maybe 2500 (too fast BTW I hope those were metal grips!).

Gotta ask though... WHY does the first segment have a "edit" in it?

However, in the second segment you better have that guy check his tach... in the second segment there is NO WAY that is 2700 inj the hover.... sorry.... However later in the flight it sounds good and high but still doesnt sound like 2700....

Last segment flight time 6:22 to ruffly 9:22... Thas only 3 minutes?

BUT bottom line this looks good... MUCH more than I expected!
Thanks for sharing!

Last question... WHY does the water mark say TPPacks?
What pinion? How many cells? etc? Please share!

Finally... looks like Saint George Utah? Where is that?

Thanks,
Bob

spork
12-29-2006, 12:45 AM
Well, I'm way out on the fringe. I'm this >< close to putting a 4S A123 in my Rex 450. Apparently it's been done by at least a couple of folks. I know the common wisdom is that it's not a good fit for the 450, but I've read here on the freak that a couple of people seem to like it. I'd really like to hear more.

Anyone that knows me already knows I'm too stupid to manage an effective internet search, so I'd be grateful for any links to video or info regarding these cells on a 450.

spruce
12-29-2006, 12:54 AM
BTW typical of someone that thinks they are OWED something because they GAVE something. Giving in good heart is never expecting something in return or USING it against someone!


BTW typical of someone that wont answer a simple question.

I'm not owed anything, but remeber I'm the Taker.

Wow and imagine that A123s Work but have short flight times.

I'll be a S.O.B. if "someone" didnt say that exact F#$king thing in another post but needed a "video" to back it up.

YOU just proved my whole point.

rjg
12-29-2006, 12:54 AM
Guys,

I'm pretty new here, but actually intended to read something about A123s when going through this thread as I am very interested in them. Check it at the door and lets get back to the topic. :smokin:

Having seen some of these videos, I would be interested in seeing and have pondered building an A123 powered 600 using the Rotorworkz HFE frame.

I am thinking the 1/2lb lighter bird with a pack that is almost 100g lighter (10s X 70g vs 793g) might give a great mix of performance, flight times, and safety.

rjg
12-29-2006, 12:56 AM
Well, I'm way out on the fringe. I'm this >< close to putting a 4S A123 in my Rex 450. Apparently it's been done by at least a couple of folks. I know the common wisdom is that it's not a good fit for the 450, but I've read here on the freak that a couple of people seem to like it. I'd really like to hear more.

Anyone that knows me already knows I'm too stupid to manage an effective internet search, so I'd be grateful for any links to video or info regarding these cells on a 450.

I have seen some pics of people doing this, but I don't think I have seen a video. If I find one during my research on A123s I'll pass it along..

spork
12-29-2006, 01:03 AM
I have seen some pics of people doing this, but I don't think I have seen a video. If I find one during my research on A123s I'll pass it along..

I would love to see it. And if I build mine first I'll give you all a report and a video - including my poor flying!

Finless
12-29-2006, 01:14 AM
Hey Spork.... I have seen PICs of this on a 450 and it LOOKED HEAVY... but let us know how it works out (I know you will) :)

Bob

spork
12-29-2006, 01:19 AM
Sure will. I'm dying to see how it autos with an extra 150grams or so!

fireup
12-29-2006, 01:37 AM
I've done 450 with 3s emoli cells... TOO HEAVY!!

Finless
12-29-2006, 01:43 AM
Sure will. I'm dying to see how it autos with an extra 150grams or so!


Hmmm I would too! Since I am a auto king with my 450 at my local field having an extra 150 on board WONT be good! There is already so SMALL a room for error that 150grams wont be fun... BUT Spork I know you have your non-driven tail so that might help ;)

Bob

ozace
12-29-2006, 02:34 AM
Water mark on the raptor vid is cos its from Gary G (tppacks.com) he is pushing these cells hard in flight to prove they work. He also did a trex with 4s of them.

Ticidytoc
12-29-2006, 02:50 AM
Yes, can we please stop the bickering and get back on topic ? This is a great post Ozace started, lets give it some time and I'm sure there will be more videos.

Thanks !