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Bigdipper
10-21-2010, 05:30 PM
I thought I would try a 4s 2200 Zippy Flightmax on my machine with a camera mount attached and just hovering in my driveway. I got 14 minutes 29 sec with plenty of power. Battery was barely warm and the motors were cool to the touch.
On 3s 2200 I was getting 8 minutes. I have the S version with the Scorpion (Gold&Black) motors and 10amp Gaui ESCs.
I had to replace the bearings in one the motors recently.
I ordered the Scorpion bearing lube and use it regularly and have not had any further problems with the other motors.
This is my primary machine for shooting now. My Helicopters are gathering dust. (Trex 450 and 500).
mpnchar
10-22-2010, 10:14 AM
Hi, nice to hear you are enjoying the GAUI. I am also wantingto do AP with this, but i am not conident as the quad is not consistent in performance. CCan youshare some tips on the set-up?Thanks!
Bigdipper
10-22-2010, 12:56 PM
I followed this post and haven't had any problems.
My machine is absolutely stable and great for shooting. Hovering and rotating I can stitch 20 shots together in Photoshop.
Lyagukh
Green slimy creature
Here is what worked for me with DX6i TX and AR 6110 RX. Use it on your own risk.
1. Double check the wirings. If you connect wires improperly, 330X would not fly whatever TX settings
2. Select an empty profile on your TX. It's a good idea to reset selected profile just to be sure that no previous profile settings spoil the process (reset function is under "Setup List" menu). Reason: if some non-default settings are left in profile, they will interfer with configuration process and you will have hard time figuring out what's wrong. Put all trims to the center position.
3. Your receiver should be bound to selected TX profile BEFORE you calibrate ESC. I have bound mine even before I started assembling 330X
4. Select ACRO model type on your TX (again under "Setup List"). Some people had success with HELI mode, but the manual insists on ACRO and that worked for me.
5. Configure correct Reverse settings on TX (see page 12 of 330X manual, you need the JR column). For DX6i that means: THRO - N, AILE - R, ELEV - R, RUDD - R, GEAR - N, FLAP - N. Reverse settings are - guess it - under "Setup list"
6. Disconnect the green wire from receiver. Using a flat screwdriver turn the "GAIN" knob on GU 344 counterclockwise until you feel resistance (some 120 degrees in my case). Don't use all your force - it's a delicate knob! Also verify that both DIP switches are in the upper position ("CRU" and "X" respectively). Reason: this way you turn off GU-344 brains and let ESC calibrate better. Anyway that's what addition to the manual says.
7. Now put the throttle all the way up, verify that your TX is on and connect the battery to 330X. Be extremly carefull: theoretically the motors could start spinning and propellers may injure you! So, it's a good idea to take propellers off the motors. You will here some tones, which are more like a melody to me. Now move the throttle stick all the way down. Be careful not to move the stick left or right - it will start ESC programming process which you are not going to do. Another series of tones should follow. Disconnect the battery, then turn TX off. Calibration is done.
8. Turn the GAIN knob back to it's original position and connect the green wire to GEAR channel on receiver. (You may leave green wire disconnected and set GU-344 gain with the GAIN knob, manual will tell you how it's done. Personally I use the green wire and TX Travel Adjust settings).
9. Just to verify your results: turn TX on, put the throttle all the way down, connect the battery to GU-344. DO NOT attach propellers yet! After some time, 330X will play yet another melody and green (or red) light will be steadily on. Slowly move the throttle up. Motors should start spinning. Check that motors 1 and 3 (as labeled on the diagram in the manual) rotate counterclockwise, while 2 and 4 rotate clockwise. Disconnect the battery. Attach propellers ensuring you use correct propellers for correct motors.
10. Configure Travel Adjust. Set it to 75% for throttle, leave it at 100% for AILE, ELEV and RUDD. The GEAR setting is more complicated. The GEAR switch on your TX has two positions and is used to switch 330X flight modes. Travel Adjust settings configure Gain in each of these modes. I would recommend configuring initial Gain values to approx 35% for both modes and later on fine-tune them during flight testing. To do this: configure Travel Adjust to 35% for GEAR. Then toggle the GEAR switch on TX. Note how an arrow besides GEAR channel on the LCD changes - that's because you have switched modes. Again set 35%. GEAR channel is done. Finally, since you do not use FLAP channel at all, it does not matter, how you configure Travel Adjust for this channel. Just leave it at 100%.
11. Configure D/R and EXPO. Just like with GEAR channel there are actually TWO settings for each of AILE, ELEV and RUDD: one for corresponding D/R switch on and one for corresponding D/R switch off. They are toggled with TX switches labeled ELEV D/R, AIL D/R and RUDD D/R. I would recommend setting these switches to "0" position initially. Later on you can configure two "flying styles", e.g. "slow" one with switches toggled to "0" and "crazy" one with switches toggled to "1". Now, on the LCD you see something like
AILE 0 100% INH
That means that in switch position "0" your double rate is set to 100% and exponential is not used (is inhibited). Double rate influences general sensitivity of sticks and exponential influences how the sticks behave near their central position. Positive exponential means that small amounts of stick movement near the center are almost ignored. The more EXPO - the larger this "insensitive" zone around the central position. I started setting D/R for AILE and ELEV to 50% (or 60%) so that sticks are not extremely sensitive.
I would also recommend setting exponential to some 20-30% for AILE and EXPO. So, in my case the screen looks like this:
AILE 0 60% +30%
ELEV 0 60% +30%
RUDD 0 100% INH
12. Now to the flight testing. Ensure that TX is on and throttle is all the way down. Connect the battery to 330X and listen to the melody . SLOWLY move throttle up. Most probably, 330X will start moving in some direction. Drop the throttle down. Again put the throttle slowly up and then drop it down. If the sideway move persists and is strong, compensate it with trimmers. If movements are "weak", you may risk moving throttle slightly more. (of course, use your sticks to hold 330X in roughly the same position). When you reach 1 meter above the ground, you can fine-trim the model without ground effect interfering with your controls.
13. Fine-tune the gain. Generally, if the model vobbles, it means too much gain. Using Travel Adjust for the GEAR channel tune it so, that it does not vobble, but starts to vobble if you increase Travel Adjust. That's an optimal gain setting for current flight mode. (Remember, optimal gain and trims for different flight modes can be different).
14. You should try both flight modes (green light and red light on GU-344) and decide which one you like the most. For me it's "red mode" aka CRUISE mode.
That's it, sorry for a long message.
Bigdipper
10-22-2010, 01:29 PM
I just tried a 4s 3000 (20-30c) Zippy Flightmax pack and got 17 minutes 6 secs of hovering with the camera mount. Pack is too heavy. The 2200 is all that's needed for me.
And now to play with the GoProHD camera for some video,
Bigdipper
10-22-2010, 05:08 PM
Here's a 20 shot pano from my 330X.
Slow rotation while in a hover at 3 fps with my Panasonic LX3. 100 degrees of rotation.: Enjoy!
WOW,very nice man! I suppose that to make this photo you needed a perfect weather,with no wind at all...
Bigdipper
10-23-2010, 11:16 AM
WOW,very nice man! I suppose that to make this photo you needed a perfect weather,with no wind at all...
Yes. It was 8:30am with no wind. Before getting any altitude I like to hover and trim the machine for little movement.
Then get high to shooting postion. Hover. Move the rudder stick ever so slightly to rotate and shoot. Works great!
LindsayLou
10-23-2010, 06:42 PM
Wow!
That's great. ...Loking at picking one of these up for myself. Any recommendations on where to purchase?
I have a Trex 500 and 250 but looking for something unique.
Thanks! Great photo!!
Seebodener
10-24-2010, 01:34 AM
Wow!
That's great. ...Loking at picking one of these up for myself. Any recommendations on where to purchase?
I have a Trex 500 and 250 but looking for something unique.
Thanks! Great photo!!
take a look at CNCHelicopter:
http://www.cnchelicopter.com/servlet/the-New-Gaui-330X-dsh-S/Categories
great shop and Jeff from CNC is doing great support
pentagon78
04-07-2012, 12:20 AM
I just tried a 4s 3000 (20-30c) Zippy Flightmax pack and got 17 minutes 6 secs of hovering with the camera mount. Pack is too heavy. The 2200 is all that's needed for me.
And now to play with the GoProHD camera for some video,
Hi, i'm currently flying my 330x with 3s 11.1v battery. Can i fly with 4s 14.8v battery? will my motor or esc burn? please advice. Thanks.
APQuadMan
04-07-2012, 10:49 AM
Hi, i'm currently flying my 330x with 3s 11.1v battery. Can i fly with 4s 14.8v battery? will my motor or esc burn? please advice. Thanks.
I'm headed for the hobby store today to pick myself up a 4S 2200. I've used 2S 1500 and 2200 when i was learning to fly it. Then I bought a couple 3S 3700's when I upgraded my frame. I get about 12 minutes without the gopro and about 8 minutes with it before it starts to lose power. The power difference between the two batteries was amazing and I can only imagine what the 4S will do. If you look at the ESC it says Lipo 2-4Cells so I'm assuming there will be no issues. I'll let you know what the outcome is.
jeremy cooksey
04-27-2012, 10:31 PM
ive moved all my electronics of my 330xs over to the hoverthings vc 450 camo frame. i also bought the djinaza and love it.my only prob is i get bt 5 mins flight time with 2200ma lipos.mine is fully setup for fpv with gopro , sony 540 line camera and 460 mah battery for 900mhz transmitter. It weighs in at about 3lbs. has anyone had good results running this weight and 4 cell batteries with the stock motors and esc?