not paid by Chris Lafollette

[Tom Fiddler]

Interesting Spork.
If my Dad knew I screwed someone like Chris did, he would first woop my arse, then you can bet WE would be making a trip to the pawn shop. That is if he did'nt just take all my stuff and sell it all to the first guy with $300!

I can see that in this case, the acorn did'nt fall far from the tree :arggg:

What a shame.

[spork]

I can see that in this case, the acorn did'nt fall far from the tree.

I think you hit the nail on the head. Most of us would've never even had the chance to see what it was like to owe someone money for months.

[WillJames]

The radio was working fine when I sold it to Chris. Several people on here had witnessed me using it at an event just a few days before I sent it to Chris.


I saw David's Radio and wish I had bought it myself. It was pristine in every way. David takes care of his stuff better than anyone I know! If it is messed up now, Chris is responsible.

[BigVanVader]

Chris should take the 350....thats 300 for Ray and Chris gets a nice 50 dollar bill to wipe away the tears.

[JayL]

He should give Spork the 50 just for trying to help him pay his bill but I know that want happen. Im sure Chris is thinking of somthing else he can buy and who he scam to get it.

[wecoyote]

He thinks my offer was too low.......Who didn't see that coming?

I'm out. Who's next?

[WayneBrown]

He thinks my offer was too low.......Who didn't see that coming?

I'm out. Who's next?I'll pass thanks.
One bail-out per punk and I already did my part a year ago.

[spork]

Chris should take the 350....thats 300 for Ray and Chris gets a nice 50 dollar bill to wipe away the tears.

Actually, he owes Ray a bit over $400.

He should give Spork the 50 just for trying to help him pay his bill

I appreciate the thought, but I very definitely won't be keeping a nickel from this transaction. I'll be thrilled if Ray comes out whole.

He thinks my offer was too low.......Who didn't see that coming?

Unfortunately, I don't know how much the gear is worth. If it ends up that $350 is even in the ballpark (as it probably is), you can be sure I'll press him HARD to ship the gear. But I realize he may have lost his chance with you already. Nevertheless, I appreciate the offer - thanks.

One bail-out per punk and I already did my part a year ago.

True enough. Just for the record, like most, I've given up on Chris. This is now about getting a fellow freak paid.

[BarracudaHockey]

Hope you dont get dragged into the gutter with him Rick, good luck.

[Tom Fiddler]

He needs to go to the pawn shop..or GO TO JAIL!!

So he can fly with STOLEN parts...but he can't take less than he wants for a radio?
Gonna be a tuff life for this guy

[spork]

Well guys, I'm sorry to report that Chris has apparently decided to keep ALL his toys and not pay Ray the money he's owed. Chris had agreed to sell his TX (minus the RF module) and his Triton charger to raise the money to pay Ray back. Unfortunately, it looks like he's decided to keep these things. When I spoke to him on Friday, he pretended to put me on "hold", but in fact hung up on me (presumably because he wasn't satisfied with the offers he was getting on his gear - or more likely he simply wasn't willing to sell it). Since then he has not taken or returned any of my calls.

So in my book it's official. Chris is nothing more than a petty criminal who is simply taking advantage of people and marking time until his inevitable string of times in and out of jail.

My apologies for getting anyone's hope up.

[spork]

Gonna be a tuff life for this guy

Yup. As it should be. It amazes me when I see how hard people will work to keep from working.

[DebianDog]

My apologies for getting anyone's hope up.

I think most of us had given up but....

We liked -your- enthusiasm!

[JayL]

Man that makes me mad. Someone needs to and just take RAYS heli from him. He better not show is face in south Georgia :bomb: because he is finished.

[wecoyote]

I hate to admit it but I made my offer with the total expectatin of this outcome. I recently sold my 9ZWC2 and have a Triton so it's not like I needed these But I would have gone through with it to get Ray paid off. I figured that no one would touch this stuff so to call him out on this deal I made the offer and a FAIR one it was.
We now know the answer. Chris is a piece of SH#T!!! (most already knew this)

I'm sorry that you had your hopes up Spork. You did much more than you needed.

Chris, May your blades chop your head off and your exhaust piss down your neck. :twisted:

[spork]

I hate to admit it but I made my offer with the total expectatin of this outcome.

I feared this outcome as well. I had very little hopes of Chris actually being an OK guy, but I had some hope that I could get him to go through with this thing by taking him by the hand every step of the way. Unfortunately, he has absolutely no self-respect, and no respect for anyone else.

I recently sold my 9ZWC2 and have a Triton so it's not like I needed these But I would have gone through with it to get Ray paid off.

I appreciate the offer. There were only two people that were willing to buy from Chris even with me acting as liaison, and Finless checking, fixing and tuning the TX. And I certainly don't blame anyone for steering well clear of Chris.

I'm sorry that you had your hopes up Spork.

I appreciate the sentiment, but you don't need to worry about me. I'd much rather go through life as a hopeless optimist than as a common criminal with nothing to their name (not even self-respect). I hoped I could help a fellow freak, and I was wrong this time.

[ChrisLaFollette]

Richard,


When I spoke to him on Friday, he pretended to put me on "hold", but in fact hung up on me


How did you come up with that? I think the call was lost or my minutes ran out on my cell phone, dont remember. My cell or email is the best way to get ahold of me and I dont have my cell at the moment, slipped out of my pocket while I was getting a ride somewhere from a freind and it wound up in his car. I should be getting it back tommorow.

As far as the 9Z being screwed up by me, when I took it out of the box david shipped it in and turned it on and started checking stuff out I realized the limiter for the + side of the collective stick wasnt there/wasnt working. I since then calibrated the TX to the travel of the collective stick it had then/still has now.

I told rick im leaving the hobby for good so all my stuff is up for sale...

The 9Z I have for sale would come with: 9ZWCII TX, CamPac Module, 9ZWCII Case stock from futaba, Infinivation regular style cyclic ring and a duralite TX battery that holds a good charge. Always used my triton to charge it.. even though its not recomended. Only problem with the TX is the stick deal. Aside from that it works/functions perfectly.

The Triton Charger works perfectly. It has i think a few slight blemishes on the top from something.

I also have a RTF G10 Fury Extreme:

OS SZ 91 w/ Cline from James O'Neal and a 60K cateye I took from my 60k carb and stuck in it.

3 TT DS1015 Servos, 201 oz in torque/.10 speed on 6v. These things are REDICULOUSLY powerful and fast.

Futaba R149DP RX

TJ RevMax Governor with Hall Affect Sensor

Open Tailbox with grey gears

Full Stratus head (stratus carrier and tempest bell mixers)

TP2100 LiPo as an RX Pack

Futaba 9252 that needs new wires that ive been using as a Throttle Servo

Radix 105 Tailblades that are perfect/complete with spacers

Futaba 9CHP with Stock battery pack, campac and TP Module on CH 53.

If anybody is interested in any of this stuff I AM willing to sell any of the above.

I didnt list everything I have above but what I did list is surely worth enough (IMO) to get my bill between Ray and I taken care of.

If not Ill keep selling stuff until he is paid. I know its been long enough and I should have taken care of this problem a LONG time ago but I did say I would square up with him so whats listed above is up for sale.

Its time to get this taken care of and then once thats over im selling EVERYTHING else I have RC related as im leaving the hobby. Time to get a vehicle and a job and so forth and I feel/know that nobody in this hobby gives a $hit about me or me being in the hobby and so on so im done with helis and RC.

As for selling stuff if anybody is interested in any of my items listed above PM me with an offer (please no lowball's) and if I agree with the offer I will ship the stuff to you ASAP and you can inspect the item/s when you get the shipment and then send Ray Thompson the funds. Ill keep doing this until hes paid and then whatever else I have will be listed for sale until its all gone and then ill just be a bad memory.


I would like to appologise to anybody ive upset/pissed off or anything else for anything ive ever done to anybody in this hobby. If you wont accept my appology I understand. I messed up really bad, im worthless, I should rot in hell and jail and so on and so forth.. yes ive heard it all and I do feel bad and as soon as I can I will be calling Ray and appologising to him for what ive done.

[spork]

How did you come up with that? I think the call was lost or my minutes ran out on my cell phone, dont remember.

Chris, it sounded very much like you were at a party (it was very loud). You said "hold on", and I thought you were going to a quieter room or picking up another phone. I heard a click and waited until I got a dialtone. After that I called you no fewer than 30 times. Never reached you and never got a call back. I don't think you want to test your credibility against mine on this forum.


I told rick im leaving the hobby for good so all my stuff is up for sale...

If it really is up for sale then send it to Finless immediately. He agreed to check it out and calibrate it. I recieved a second offer for the TX for $350. No need for you to post a darn thing about how you're "willing" to ship first and take payment later. In fact there's no need to post a darn thing about ANYTHING until that TX is in Bob's hands. I will still be happy to be the middle man on the finance side, or stay out of the deal, as the buyer wishes. But send the TX to Bob - now.

I messed up really bad, im worthless, I should rot in hell and jail and so on and so forth.. yes ive heard it all and I do feel bad and as soon as I can I will be calling Ray and appologising to him for what ive done.

Don't apologize and don't tell us how worthless you are. We find it insulting. Just send the TX to Bob.

[Jermo]

Chris, no offense, but I wouldn't trust you with a dollar I found on the street. If you want to sell anything you'll need to talk somebody into brokering the deals for you. I doubt very seriously if anyone trusts you at all. You dug your hole, now you have to earn your way back out. Fool us once, same on you, fool us twice same on us.
Jermo

[ChrisLaFollette]

Ill appologise to whoever I want for my mistakes. If its insulting to you then tell the others to stop or take it back so you dont feel bad.

I was hanging out with freinds and the music was up so I was on the way outside to talk to you when I answered, as I was headed outside after I said hang on the call was lost. After that my phone never rang again or else I would have answered your call spoken with you like I had before, and I knew it was you so im not hiding from you or anybody. Sometimes Alltell doesnt work the best so im sorry if you called over and over and didnt get through.

Is that offer of $350 for:

9ZWCII TX, CamPac Module, 9ZWCII Case stock from futaba, Infinivation regular style cyclic ring and a duralite TX battery that holds a good charge. And the TX working in proper order after Bob fixes it? If so thank you for helping me out and PM me his address or have him PM it to me or whatever, as long as I get it and ill box it all up and send it on.

Jermo no offense taken and I understand what you mean. Im not asking for trust or forgiveness because I know it wont be given, just stating that im sorry for what ive done in the past. Whats done is done and im sorry. Take it or leave it.

[spork]

Chris,

I've given you a chance long after everyone else knew better. Don't yank me around, and don't lie. I made many calls to your home, your cell, and your father's cell. I left messages on your home phone, and spoke to someone on your father's cell several times. Also spoke to someone on your home phone. You had my office number and my cell number. No one is going to buy this story from you.

Yes, the $350 offer is for the TX, battery, etc. as you described. Send the radio to Bob. I'll pm you the name of the buyer right now.

And do yourself a favor - try not to insult me further until this deal is done and Ray is paid. Then when I'm of no more use to you, do as you like.

For those of you that think I'm being a fool, thinking Chris will actually come through with this radio... all I can say is you're probably right.

EDIT:

By the way Chris. I've helped a few people on HF to get items they had coming. I've also done this elsewhere. With the others I was relentless, and extremely "persuasive". I tried a different tack with you. I treated you with respect because you're young and you were once a member of this community. Let's not take this to a different level now.

[WayneBrown]

send all the stuff to Ray, and allow him to sell it or keep it and send you the difference. Ray sold his stratus, and has been flying a .30 since he hasn't had time to build another machine.
Ray does not have an agenda, he just wants paid. You know as well as anyone how often He's treated you right, and deserves first chance to the stuff.
You've forced Ray to air this here, and caused him embarrassment as a result.

Pull the mains and boom, pack it up and send it off.

[DavidH]

As far as the 9Z being screwed up by me, when I took it out of the box david shipped it in and turned it on and started checking stuff out I realized the limiter for the + side of the collective stick wasnt there/wasnt working.

I knew I should have not deleted the 20 to 30 PM exchanges between Chris and me. But the above is not the way it happened. I sent the radio to Chris. 15-30 mins after he opens it he sends me a PM about the stops on the left stick. I explained to him the throttle/collective stick on the 9Z has mechanical stops installed top and bottom. The stick does not travel the same as the other Futaba (9C ) radios. He sends me PM back asking about removing them. I told him the radio will have to be calibrated if that is done. Within an hour he PM's me again and said he has already been in the radio and tried to remove the stops. Also informs me he has shorted the pins in the Campac slot to get into the service menu. I informed him unless he knew what he was doing in the service menu he could screw up some of the programming. Then about 30 mins later I get a PM saying the throttle/collective stick is not operating correctly. I PM him back and tell him to send the transmitter to Radio South or Hobby Services and they can straighten it out for him.
All of this happened end of June 2006. I kept the PMs when the transaction was taking place. But I deleted all the ones about the radio arrived.
This was a 9ZWCII that was working correctly when it left my ownership. I was using it at fun fly events, and at the field every week with no problems. As I am Futaba Team pilot this radio had also been into Hobby Services for regular check ups. So it was in as good shape as a brand new radio.

Now is that the way you remember it?

David

[spork]

send all the stuff to Ray, and allow him to sell it or keep it and send you the difference.

That's fine if that's what Ray prefers. My hope was to get Ray his money as he told me that was his preference when I last spoke to him (weeks ago now).

[WayneBrown]

At this point, getting something of value versus getting nothing has to be an option I'd say would be acceptable. Ray can fly it himself, or go over it and sell to someone else.
At least Ray won't screw him around and ignore him.