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harrysvr
01-16-2007, 02:54 PM
use small bungees to strap the mount to the skids and let it hang by about 12-15mm. That combined with shooting at around 1/600-1/1000 shutter should eliminate the blurring.
Also keep that heli as stable as you can when snapping the shot.
Was it very windy when you took those shots??
No windy at all, my camera(nikon 7900) have two modes=sports and sports spectator,the past 3 days I used to shoot on sports, do you think is better the other mode?
I bought that bungee but I don't know how to secure the edges...
http://i14.tinypic.com/2dt4sa9.jpg
harrysvr
01-17-2007, 03:02 PM
Better this time, just isolated two alum bars(mount-camera mount)
photo of my summer house(not in the picture)
http://i18.tinypic.com/2egb8ua.jpg
Do you think I should go for the spartan or the cheaper FMA co pilot ?
Tonystott
01-17-2007, 03:23 PM
Spartan - no question!
harrysvr
01-17-2007, 04:02 PM
Spartan - no question!
Why not, all of you on AP you don't use such thinks?
The stabalizers such as the spartan are newer electronic components. many of the better AP helicopter pilots have been flying long enough that they have learned to fly without these type of devices. Give it time and more and more will probably use them but for now it is nice extra, but not always a neccessity.
harrysvr
01-18-2007, 08:28 AM
So, for me (ap amateur) what do you propose buying for stability?
dreslism
01-18-2007, 08:52 AM
Any exif data from blured vs. non blured images?
How can I find that info?
Sorry I missed this post.
If you're on windows, you can right click on a file and choose properties, then I think it is the advanced tab that will show exif data.
Look for aperture and shutter speed.
Let us know what they are for some good picts, and what they are for some bad picts.
dreslism
01-18-2007, 08:57 AM
So, for me (ap amateur) what do you propose buying for stability?
Tony already said it on the last page. :D
Spartan ap2000i.
Don't put an fma stabilizer on your heli.
You will use the fma sensor with your ap2000i.
About the previous post with regards to "Some of the better AP pilots have been doing it for so long they learned to fly without the stabilizer."
I am not saying you need the stabilizer to learn how to fly, nor do you need it to fly. What we are doing is basically putting a moving tripod in the sky.
The ap2000i lets you concentrate on being a photographer and not having to worry about your heli running away or falling out of the sky while you are framing your shot on a downlink while 300 feet in the air. :mrgreen:
Check through here for ap2000i and you will find many, many, many, (did I mention many??) satisfied ap pilots using the ap2000i.
harrysvr
01-18-2007, 11:51 AM
Any exif data from blured vs. non blured images?
How can I find that info?
Sorry I missed this post.
If you're on windows, you can right click on a file and choose properties, then I think it is the advanced tab that will show exif data.
Look for aperture and shutter speed.
Let us know what they are for some good picts, and what they are for some bad picts.
For two bad pictures(I think by the numbers you can understand Greek)
http://i16.tinypic.com/43g48y8.jpg
http://i10.tinypic.com/4gybxhk.jpg
and two good
http://i14.tinypic.com/2vb7pl0.jpg
http://i10.tinypic.com/4btfd6r.jpg
Good point dreslism with the stabalization electronics it is not is complicated to do single pilot AP. When the pilot has to focus on just flying it is better to cave a camera man taking the photos with the Spartan it is much more feasible for a single operator to do it all. As for the pictures based on my limited experience using an optio 5 camera higher ISO settings are ideal for high frequency vibration. simply because my camera will not allow you to select shutter speed. I often have some poorer pictures in a group do to larger motion blur when my small trex helicopter gets buffeted by wind. On my camera and my helicopter ISO100-200 is prefered. I do not know the limitations of your camera regarding manual settings.
If you can set focus to infinity
shutterspeed to 1/1000
or ISO 100-200
do not change ISO if you can change the shutterspeed.
Hopefully a more experienced camera person will chime in I am sure I could learn some things myself
Bat1
harrysvr
01-18-2007, 02:23 PM
I want to inform that I cant change shutter speed or focus, everything is in auto(Ionly can change modes,MP) cause of the URBI interface I`m using.
Also, I`m new to AP NOT to helis, so the spartan 2000i I want it to have my hands free for concentrating on the photos not for learning to fly...
MLaBoyteaux
01-18-2007, 02:57 PM
Although ISO 50 is going to provide the least noise in the photos, it's forcing a slower shutter speed than you really need.
Is there no way to adjust or set the ISO setting on your camera? If you could change it to 100 the camera should double the shutter speed. 200 would be even better in your case.
1/200 will work on a very fine tuned heli with a smooth pilot in good air, but when you're just starting out, you'll improve your odds of a clear photo by raising the shutter speed.
If there's no way to make any other adjustments on the camera, you may be better off getting a different camera which gives you more control.
harrysvr
01-18-2007, 03:39 PM
Thanks, I`ll try it next week cause I`ve ordered GY611/9256 instead of my stock 401/9254...
read this section in your camera manual
The Shooting Menu
Using the Shooting Menu
- Image Mode
- White Balance
- Metering
- Continuous
- Best Shot Selector
- Color Options
- Image Adjustment
- Image Sharpening
- Sensitivity
- Auto Bracketing
- Saturation Control
- AF Area Mode
- Auto-focus- Mode
- Noise Reduction
This will tell you more about the manual settings you can make
harrysvr
01-18-2007, 04:39 PM
- Image Mode Fine-7MP
- White Balance Auto
- Metering matrix
- Continuous single
- Best Shot Selector off
- Color Options standard
- Image Adjustment auto
- Image Sharpening auto
- Sensitivity auto
- Auto Bracketing off
- Saturation Control normal
- AF Area Mode off
- Auto-focus- Mode single AF
- Noise Reduction off
These are my current settings but as I remember nothing of these are the same when using sports mode or sports spectator...
change sensetivity to 200 if you can