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velocity90
01-13-2011, 01:45 PM
Hi,

Will the cgy750 work with the non special servos without the use of the extra connection? So I can buy a s-bus reciever and connect thru s-bus to the cgy and then connect the 451's and tail servo just to it, or do I have to buy the Futaba SBD-1 S.Bus Decoder 1600mm (http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXZKA4&P=7)
with it. If I understand you will only need that if you want to use the hubs.

Solo Pilot
01-13-2011, 03:54 PM
So I can buy a s-bus reciever and connect thru s-bus to the cgy and then connect the 451's and tail servo just to it

Yes.

Felt
01-13-2011, 06:16 PM
Last I checked..Matt B is running the BLS252s with his 750. So I would say any digital servo.

rtnaviman
01-14-2011, 05:40 PM
Do any of you know when the new Futaba S-BUS receiver 6007SB will be release for sale. It is a (single outlet only), should be a good fit with the CG-750. And it should be able to handle the higher rated servos 6.0 - 8.0 volts. :YeaBaby:

Phaedrus
01-15-2011, 01:52 AM
Do any of you know when the new Futaba S-BUS receiver 6007SB will be release for sale. It is a (single outlet only), should be a good fit with the CG-750. And it should be able to handle the higher rated servos 6.0 - 8.0 volts. :YeaBaby:


So far only Robbe in Europe has that RX. I have not heard any talk about it in the US yet. The latest RX seen here is the R6203SB which is the same size as the 6007 and has 3 regular channel plugs and is a full range S-Bus RX with the two dual diversity antennas on it. Expected street price is $79.99 and due sometime in February (late)

Jafa
01-15-2011, 04:57 AM
But the single outlet Robbe RX in Europe is not an SBUS output

Phaedrus
01-15-2011, 09:29 AM
But the single outlet Robbe RX in Europe is not an SBUS output


I am pretty sure it is, in fact it must be. Here is what the RObbe site says:

The serial output on the receiver requires special components in the model which can read the signal stream and process it accordingly

Robbe calls it "SP", but the serial output IS S-Bus, there is nothing else it can be.

kevinator9
01-15-2011, 01:40 PM
The 6007SB is not full range so watch that catch.

Phaedrus
01-15-2011, 03:06 PM
The 6007SB is not full range so watch that catch.

According to Robbe the stated range on the 6007 is 300 meters.

The 6107 is 1,000 meters

The 6203, 6108, and 6208 are full range.

Jafa
01-15-2011, 07:10 PM
I am pretty sure it is, in fact it must be. Here is what the RObbe site says:

Robbe calls it "SP", but the serial output IS S-Bus, there is nothing else it can be.

I've got one - the SP - it's a PWM signal

More details here:
http://helifreak.com/showpost.php?p=2371037&postcount=42

Phaedrus
01-16-2011, 12:19 AM
I've got one - the SP - it's a PWM signal

More details here:
http://helifreak.com/showpost.php?p=2371037&postcount=42

Then I stand corrected and confused. How can it be PMW AND serial?? I thought they were mutually exclusive.

Jafa
01-16-2011, 06:25 AM
How can it be PMW AND serial??
I thought they were mutually exclusive.

Serial just means multiple instructions sent down a single line one after the other,
that's what PPM and PWM do...

Checkout PWM on Wikipedia - see the telecommunication section

http://rotarypower3.com/jafa/Misc/PWM.GIF

We really don't know what the S in the SP designation means, serial, sequential, single???
(maybe Sequential Pulse???)

When configuring your RX in the VStabi software you select SBUS or Single Line as different options

http://rotarypower3.com/jafa/Misc/VStabiRX.jpg

The Robbe SP RX only works via the single line option - not SBUS

Phaedrus
01-16-2011, 03:57 PM
Here's what Robbe says about the 6007SP:
The serial output on the receiver requires special components in the model which can read the signal stream and process it accordingly, such as e.g. the Mini-V-Stabi.

For the 6107 they say this:

Oneserial output on the receiver requires special building blocks in the model which can read the stream of signals and process them accordingly, such as e.g.theHC 3-Xtreme or Mini-V-Stabi.

ANd for the 6208SB they have this:

New: S-BUS output
Up to 18 of the new, programmable S-BUS servos can be attached in series directly to this output. Digital addressing means the servo reacts only to information which holds the correct servo address.
No more cable spaghetti, one connection to the wing, on larger models a cable per wing and a cable to the tail.

So they seem similar, but apparently there are some differences. Interesing. I wonder when, or if, we will see these in the US?

Jafa
01-16-2011, 06:36 PM
Yes, the 6007 and 6107 give the same signal output
Where as the 6208SB is a real SBUS RX - which is what we really want

Given that we are seeing photo's of these units with the Futaba brand name
I'm hoping that means we will see the the SB in our Hobby stores