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engineered
01-29-2007, 11:00 PM
what is the default for DIP switch?it is used for what? and also, PLT & PIT knob.. still dont know their function..

skunkworx
01-30-2007, 03:54 AM
Transmitter DIP switches setup
#22E (Rx-603)
#1 Elevator
#2 Aileron ON
#3 Throttle
#4 Rudder ON
#5 Heli/Acro ON
#6 Tail C
#7 CCPM/Norm ON
#8 Lock/Unlock X
#9 PIT ON
#10 Gear

Pitch Adjustment Dial (left knob PLT):
As throttle input increases in the Normal Flight mode, the Cyclic Collective Pitch Mixing (CCPM) system automatically adds pitch to the blades to help lift the heli off the ground. The amount of pitch and how fast it is added can affect the flight characteristics of your model. You
can adjust the amount of added pitch using the Pitch Adjustment Dial. A lower pitch setting makes the model’s flight characteristics more docile. A higher pitch setting will give the heli a more aggressive flight characteristic. Beginning pilots should learn with a medium to docile
pitch setting.

Throttle Adjustment Dial (right knob PIT):
The Throttle Adjustment Dial works in much the same way as the Pitch Adjustment Dial but it controls the head speed (RPM of the blades) instead of pitch input. A higher head speed will make the cyclic controls more responsive to stick inputs but it will shorten the flight time. A slower head speed will make the helicopter more docile.

NOTE: If you increase the amount of pitch, you must also increase the amount of throttle to keep the heli from “bogging” and feeling sluggish.

(Thank you to Venom for these 2 paragraphs)

Hope this helps!

skunkworx
01-30-2007, 03:58 AM
I dug up these from somewhere, they should be similar to the 22E although I can't be certain. If all this info is wrong I apologize, but I hope it at least helps a little!***NOTE*** please make sure your dip switches match with the ones mentioned below before following them. I can't be certain it is correct. :arggg:

To set PZT and PLT pitch trim/pitch range settings on you new model (36), follow the steps below,

1) Fully charge your NiMH/Li-Po battery for use and ensure your transmitter batteries are new/charged.
2) Locate the dipswitches on the back of the controller and ensure switch number 8 in the unlock position. Adjust the PZT/PLT dials on the front of the transmitter unit fully anticlockwise.
3) Ensure the throttle setting on your transmitter is in the fully negative position before connecting the main battery on your Walkera 36, then move the throttle stick slowly to the mid position. With the throttle in the mid position, your model should be stable on the floor with the main blades turning.
4) Adjust the PZT dial until the model is nearly lifting off the floor but not enough for it to take flight.
5) Move the throttle to the fully negative position, turning off the main rotors, once it is safe to do so, disconnect the engine but leave the main battery connected so that all servos will operate when the transmitter is manipulated.
6) Adjust the PLT dial until the servomechanism is able to move fully without binding.
7) Ensuring the throttle is set to the negative position, you may reconnect the battery and flight test your model. Having followed the above steps the model should take flight as the throttle stick passes the mid position.
Once all adjustments have been made, move the controller dipswitch number 8 back into the locked position to ensure your settings are not accidentally lost.

rcjames
04-20-2007, 01:40 AM
I dug up these from somewhere, they should be similar to the 22E although I can't be certain. If all this info is wrong I apologize, but I hope it at least helps a little!***NOTE*** please make sure your dip switches match with the ones mentioned below before following them. I can't be certain it is correct. :arggg:

To set PZT and PLT pitch trim/pitch range settings on you new model (36), follow the steps below,

1) Fully charge your NiMH/Li-Po battery for use and ensure your transmitter batteries are new/charged.
2) Locate the dipswitches on the back of the controller and ensure switch number 8 in the unlock position. Adjust the PZT/PLT dials on the front of the transmitter unit fully anticlockwise.
3) Ensure the throttle setting on your transmitter is in the fully negative position before connecting the main battery on your Walkera 36, then move the throttle stick slowly to the mid position. With the throttle in the mid position, your model should be stable on the floor with the main blades turning.
4) Adjust the PZT dial until the model is nearly lifting off the floor but not enough for it to take flight.
5) Move the throttle to the fully negative position, turning off the main rotors, once it is safe to do so, disconnect the engine but leave the main battery connected so that all servos will operate when the transmitter is manipulated.
6) Adjust the PLT dial until the servomechanism is able to move fully without binding.
7) Ensuring the throttle is set to the negative position, you may reconnect the battery and flight test your model. Having followed the above steps the model should take flight as the throttle stick passes the mid position.
Once all adjustments have been made, move the controller dipswitch number 8 back into the locked position to ensure your settings are not accidentally lost.


what would u do if ur 22e will not lift up the ground?

skunkworx
04-20-2007, 02:14 AM
#1 make sure your pitches are set to 0 @ center stick, and no more than around +9 to +11 pitch at full collective (left stick/mode 2)

#2 try to adjust your throttle curves so that you get a slightly higher curve than linear

throttle: 0, 30, 65, 80, 100
pitch: 0, 2, 4, 6, 8
tail rotor: -30, -20, -1, +4, +9

If you use a heading hold gyro, all tail
rotor mixing values should be set to zero

Is your tail hlding OK?

rcjames
04-20-2007, 02:17 AM
#1 make sure your pitches are set to 0 @ center stick, and no more than around +9 to +11 pitch at full collective (left stick/mode 2)

#2 try to adjust your throttle curves so that you get a slightly higher curve than linear

throttle: 0, 30, 65, 80, 100
pitch: 0, 2, 4, 6, 8
tail rotor: -30, -20, -1, +4, +9

If you use a heading hold gyro, all tail
rotor mixing values should be set to zero

Is your tail hlding OK?

i don't have the device to set up the pitch also I am thinking
what if its the motor. Sometimes i need to swing the rotor to
get it start like if its a 049 engine. And also maybe my lipo is
weak now. Sucks when I have 5 helis and all are not flyible.
And tail is holding i could actually steer my heli where ever i
want him to go it just don't have the speed for lift up.

skunkworx
04-20-2007, 02:46 AM
You got a brushless setup on it? If not, that will make a huge difference. Your Lipo should read 12.6V at start and shouldn't be allowed to go below 11.1V.

5 helis huh? Can you fly any of them, or is it just this one?

skunkworx
04-20-2007, 02:46 AM
You got a brushless setup on it? If not, that will make a huge difference. Your Lipo should read 12.6V at start and shouldn't be allowed to go below 11.1V.

5 helis huh? Can you fly any of them, or is it just this one?

rcjames
04-20-2007, 02:54 AM
You got a brushless setup on it? If not, that will make a huge difference. Your Lipo should read 12.6V at start and shouldn't be allowed to go below 11.1V.

5 helis huh? Can you fly any of them, or is it just this one?

Last one that was flying great until i lost control from error was a helimax axe cp. All I need is blades. well check it out.


Helipro Black Hawk GP AKA Protech Zoom 450 IC .12 engine
(still building i need gyro and servo extention and tweaking)

Helimax Rotofly (I need seesaw assembly and flybar.)

Walkera 25e (dunno whats wrong yet)

Cheap Apache 4 channel (no good)

Helimax axe (blades)

Aye none are flyible I know what to do with axe and all above just
walkera is the only one I'm confuse with. I don't have funds right
now to spend on my toys but soon i will. By the chance whats a good gyro? How long have u been flying?

skunkworx
04-20-2007, 03:05 AM
Flying for about 5yrs. Gyro depends on what you are looking for. I am partial to the higher end ones (ie GY240/GY401 etc...) If you are looking for a cheap one, make sure it's a head hold type. I have a link to a micro size that would work for the 22E

http://h1071118.hobbyshopnow.com/products/description.asp?prod=GWSPG03

rcjames
04-20-2007, 03:09 AM
Flying for about 5yrs. Gyro depends on what you are looking for. I am partial to the higher end ones (ie GY240/GY401 etc...) If you are looking for a cheap one, make sure it's a head hold type. I have a link to a micro size that would work for the 22E

http://h1071118.hobbyshopnow.com/products/description.asp?prod=GWSPG03

it might not be the problem i can steer it i can hold it on one place but there is just not enough of speed on main blade.

skunkworx
04-20-2007, 03:17 AM
Main motor is probably toast, at least it'scheap to fix. Try these guys;

http://www.midwest-rc.com/servlet/StoreFront

They have really good prices, cheap shipping and lots of partsfor the Walkeras

rcjames
04-20-2007, 03:20 AM
Wow are we the only one talking?

WOW 22E brushless motor and esc 20a kit 59.99
looks like a great deal where would it plug to? Will
it burn up my tail roto???

skunkworx
04-20-2007, 03:29 AM
I believe you can bypass the ESC on the 4-in-1 for the main motor and plug right into the pack, the other wire still powers the rest of the functions. No, it shouldn't burn up the tail as it will be powered the same way through the 4-in-1. I've also heard of a 3-in-1 that is for B/L setups, but I'm afraid I don't have much experience in that field. I'll see what I can find for you, but no garantees!

OBTW-the Midwest peeps are pretty cool, real easy to deal with. I'd give them quick call or e~mail and see what they recommend. In the mean time, I'll dig up some more info....

skunkworx
04-20-2007, 03:36 AM
I believe you can bypass the ESC on the 4-in-1 for the main motor and plug right into the pack, the other wire still powers the rest of the functions. No, it shouldn't burn up the tail as it will be powered the same way through the 4-in-1. I've also heard of a 3-in-1 that is for B/L setups, but I'm afraid I don't have much experience in that field. I'll see what I can find for you, but no garantees!

OBTW-the Midwest peeps are pretty cool, real easy to deal with. I'd give them quick call or e~mail and see what they recommend. In the mean time, I'll dig up some more info....

rcjames
04-20-2007, 03:48 AM
I believe you can bypass the ESC on the 4-in-1 for the main motor and plug right into the pack, the other wire still powers the rest of the functions. No, it shouldn't burn up the tail as it will be powered the same way through the 4-in-1. I've also heard of a 3-in-1 that is for B/L setups, but I'm afraid I don't have much experience in that field. I'll see what I can find for you, but no garantees!

OBTW-the Midwest peeps are pretty cool, real easy to deal with. I'd give them quick call or e~mail and see what they recommend. In the mean time, I'll dig up some more info....


:D Would my Himax brushyless work on this thing?
HA2025-4200????? It powers up 400 size planes which its
good since its very small motor. It's a inrunner

skunkworx
04-20-2007, 09:40 PM
It should. The 22E is like a 200-300 size heli, so I don't see a problem. Just make sure it'll fit and you can use/get a compatible ESC. I don't have time to look it up for now, but I'll look around for compatible parts later tonight.

Sorry I can't get to it sooner.

rcjames
04-20-2007, 11:13 PM
It should. The 22E is like a 200-300 size heli, so I don't see a problem. Just make sure it'll fit and you can use/get a compatible ESC. I don't have time to look it up for now, but I'll look around for compatible parts later tonight.

Sorry I can't get to it sooner.


Don't worry but u do have experience on hooking up brushless right?
Does anybody knows how to hook up a brushless motor to the all in one?
I hooked it up and i connected speed control to channel 4 and trottle works except tail doesn't when i connect battery straight to speed control when i connect battery straight to my receiver motor don't work but back tail does. :arggg: But I think my motor is toooo strong for this little helicopter half power heli wanted to take off right away. Oh one thing is my brush motor the reason it wasn't strong because i didn't left any gab between the gears. Alot of force what my motor was dealing with.

dicko_trex
04-25-2007, 02:56 AM
you need to buy or make a y harness that plugs into your battery and splits out to your brushless esc and to your 4in1 unit so they both get power.
or you could do what i done with mine and solder the 4in1 onto your conector of your esc here is a pic of the second one i done i used another plug so i could unplug my 4in1 but you dont need it
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/4/11402544296.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5305507)
im not sure iff my electronics are the same because mine is a night ranger 3d but im pretty shure they are the same bird.

skunkworx
04-25-2007, 03:47 AM
Same bird, different badging.

Good example Dicko_trex. That seems to be the easiest way to do it. The only other way I found it was to open up the 4/1 and solder onto the back-side of the terminals coming in. Too complicated to deal with IMHO.

rcjames
04-25-2007, 06:53 AM
you need to buy or make a y harness that plugs into your battery and splits out to your brushless esc and to your 4in1 unit so they both get power.
or you could do what i done with mine and solder the 4in1 onto your conector of your esc here is a pic of the second one i done i used another plug so i could unplug my 4in1 but you dont need it
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/4/11402544296.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5305507)
im not sure iff my electronics are the same because mine is a night ranger 3d but im pretty shure they are the same bird.

ah :) so both need power, receiver and speed control aye hopefully i'll do that soon when i finish my gas heli. I need to spend on walkera some money my brushless wasn't no good always had problem once i had a crash back then. here is some pic of my nitro :)

skunkworx
04-25-2007, 12:07 PM
I miss my nitro! At least you get some decent fly times out of them for the extra hassle! What size is that? I'm planning on going to a .60 size when I get the $$. The Trex 600 nitro looks pretty impressive, I'll probably go with that.

rcjames
04-25-2007, 03:01 PM
I miss my nitro! At least you get some decent fly times out of them for the extra hassle! What size is that? I'm planning on going to a .60 size when I get the $$. The Trex 600 nitro looks pretty impressive, I'll probably go with that.


http://www.helifreak.com/viewtopic.php?t=36729

Aye u should go for a 50 size parts are cheaper then a 60 size i bet
could be the same prices as 30 size. ANyways mine is a micro heli
lik lite mechine. Except i think it uses a .07 size motor. Mine uses
a .12. I wanted small to stay away the expensive parts. Yet this is
still causing me to loose a leg and an arm. :arggg: See I think I
spend more money on my hobbies then on girls. hehe Anyways
there is some info in the other forum i posted there is more information
and such. ALso videos :) Also spec on a different site i think protech
site. Its a nice little toy well its bigger then any other heli i have. Alot
bigger. I just need a gyro i guess i'll go for a 401 once I get my taxes
if I don't end up updating my ram and video card. Got windows vista
install and so I need more ram and a better grahpic card to play hard core games. :) and write post.