some undocumented(?) dx7 switches

[rdlohr]

Besides, I bet you were just intending for him to fly his heli just a bit above your head. It does quite a bit of that windy blowing stuff.

Rick

[WillJames]

The weather here has really sucked, no flying in days. I despise winter. :DOH

[rdlohr]

I second that!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rick

[Hawkdaddy]

I'm new to helis, just started trying them a few months ago when I bought my G3.
Helis were to complicated for me to get into. This site is awesome for newbees like
me trying to learn the terminology, building, and setup! :D

THANKS!!! :glasses2:

[Hawkdaddy]

I'm new to helis, just started trying them a few months ago when I bought my G3.
Helis were to complicated for me to get into. This site is awesome for newbees like
me trying to learn the terminology, building, and setup! :D

THANKS!!! :glasses2:

[rdlohr]

WELCOME!

You'll find lots of great people around. Just jump in anywhere. There's a wealth of knowledge here.

Rick

[Jermo]

no worries all.

Tmoore - The main issue I have with cross posting links is it generally takes more time to actually get answers and sometimes ends up in a mess of conversation if a new person tries to join in. When a reply is just a link to another site you have to read the thread on this site, then read the thread on the other then come back..etc..it's very inefficient.

If a person asks a question and the answer is on the same site but different thread/forum generally you can link it and expect the current thread to immediately end.

The main issue I had with the answer given was that it didn't give enough information to support the question. To state it's "useless" may be true but we may not know who is claiming it to be useless. As a result the statement loses value.

Just to contrast what i'm trying to say. Look at Kgfly's post, he gives so much information that you can't help but understand what the switches do. I'm very surprised the OP did'nt come back and ask WHY it was useless.

I'm new but what immediately struck me was the expectation that we would hover at 50% stick. Perhaps I'm wrong but I thought 75% stick was suggested for hover so that you can more smoothly transition to idle up? Makes me wish the DX7 switches could be programmed in a bit more granular fashion.

:hug:
Jermo

[TMoore]

no worries all.

Tmoore - The main issue I have with cross posting links is it generally takes more time to actually get answers and sometimes ends up in a mess of conversation if a new person tries to join in. When a reply is just a link to another site you have to read the thread on this site, then read the thread on the other then come back..etc..it's very inefficient.

If a person asks a question and the answer is on the same site but different thread/forum generally you can link it and expect the current thread to immediately end.

The main issue I had with the answer given was that it didn't give enough information to support the question. To state it's "useless" may be true but we may not know who is claiming it to be useless. As a result the statement loses value.

Just to contrast what i'm trying to say. Look at Kgfly's post, he gives so much information that you can't help but understand what the switches do. I'm very surprised the OP did'nt come back and ask WHY it was useless.

I'm new but what immediately struck me was the expectation that we would hover at 50% stick. Perhaps I'm wrong but I thought 75% stick was suggested for hover so that you can more smoothly transition to idle up? Makes me wish the DX7 switches could be programmed in a bit more granular fashion.



It's only inefficient for the reader, what about the poor slob that is trying to answer the question and possibly do it on both sites when a link will suffice. So if Z had cut and pasted the same stuff that KGfly did right out of the manual would that have been OK? I'm just trying to figure out how we're all supposed to answer questions in the future so as to keep that peace and all that. IMHO, a search wouldn't have been out of the question.

In the context of what hovering pitch and throttle means in 2007, the feature is useless as Z said. These features were designed back in the days of hardwired radios when we all hovered at half stick. What's truly amazing is that JR would continue to offer this feature on a radio like the DX7/7202 when only a fraction of 1 percent of the pilots even bother to use it. A lot of radios are flexible enough to allow reprogramming of the feature at the users discretion like my Stylus will and the 12/14MZ. I remember the old days quite well.

The reason that we all for the most part hover at 3/4 stick is to allow a symmetrical stick motion so that hover and be achieved both upright and inverted in more or less of a mirror image of the throttle collective stick. Once 0 pitch settings are achieved at the half stick region there is very little reason for changing them via a hovering pitch knob/slider/push switch. The same goes the throttle settings as these are best achieved with the actual throttle curves themselves.

Actually this explanation is outside of the scope of the OP's question but I offer it up as a token of good faith. I thought the topic was "some undocumented (?) DX7 switches" and in that context it's my belief that the answers were in the DX manual all along but it would appear that they weren't steeped in enough detail to meet the needs of the OP.

TM

[Jermo]

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It's only inefficient for the reader, what about the poor slob that is trying to answer the question and possibly do it on both sites when a link will suffice. <cut>

TM

and Thus you state the exact nature of the very problem I feebly attempted to describe. If the "poor slob that is trying to answer the question" isn't willing to answer the question then who does the forum serve? If not it's members then who? Those who have years of experience and know WHY we hover at 3/4 stick now and WHY the switches are more often than not used? or are the forums for both the new and the old? a community where we share our hobby and support each other.

Maybe if folks don't feel like answering the question they should just post for folks to leave and go somewhere else because we don't care enough to answer them? I mean if we're going to link to hell and back what's the point of having this forum? any internet noob can use google to find answers.

I'm just trying to invoke thought here. Calm down and think about my post. I'm not insulting anyone or putting anyone down.

If you truely believe in the community we're striving to build do you tell your friends to go somewhere else for the answers? or do you just smile, take them by the arm and show them?

I don't know about you but if my "friends" did that to me I'd pretty much expect: 1. they don't know and 2. they don't care.
Jermo

[TMoore]

and Thus you state the exact nature of the very problem I feebly attempted to describe. If the "poor slob that is trying to answer the question" isn't willing to answer the question then who does the forum serve? If not it's members then who? Those who have years of experience and know WHY we hover at 3/4 stick now and WHY the switches are more often than not used? or are the forums for both the new and the old? a community where we share our hobby and support each other.


Part of sharing is at least making a feeble attempt at trying to understand what is going on. This is just my opinion and I've proven it to myself a lot, a search is a fundamentally good thing. If you don't take the time to search out answers to your questions you lose the experience of finding the answer--yourself. Part of learning to fly is committing the time. If you don't commit the time, you don't get the benefit of the journey. If you posted a question on RR, then here and got the question answered over on RR and a link was posted over here to that answer, what's the problem?

What would be wrong with doing a search for "hovering pitch" or "hovering throttle" on either forum instead of just hauling off and asking a question on each forum and sitting back while everyone bombarded each individual thread with answers?

My point is this; most questions can be answered with an appropriate search. A search is a good place to start.

TM

[Jermo]

I agree with you partially. The main reason folks post the multiple forums is because often they don't get an answer, get a partial/incomplete answer, or get good information. HF is my main forum and I don't want to hit other forums for answers unless I can't get them here. The only reason I go to other forums anymore is to buy/sell or answer a question posted to me.
HF has been the best experience for me so far. Most other sites just aren't as friendly and helpful.
Jermo

[TMoore]

Jermo,

I find all the forums have something to offer. HF, RR, Rotory, RCU, RC Groups and a few others all have info to share. If I post something on one forum I won't post it on another.

There is so much information out there that a search will usually reveal a lively discussion that in most cases but not always, covers what I need to know.

This is a good site to be sure.

TM

[Jermo]

Jermo,

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There is so much information out there that a search will usually reveal a lively discussion that in most cases but not always, covers what I need to know.

This is a good site to be sure.

TM

you definately have that right :) Heli info is volumes and volumes that never seems to end.
Jermo

[ClayK]

Just as a point, you never know if Rotory or RR or any other site is going to close down tomorrow (or delete content in some cases of other sites). Not everyone goes to other sites or even knows about other sites. Post as much as possible everywhere that you can.

Before asking questions, do a search.