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Euwan
02-22-2011, 06:39 AM
At this rate it seems like the 100 will not be coming till atleast March in the UK. If that is the case and HH does meet it's shipping date with the MCPX then they are in trouble.

I was going to get both but now its likely that I wil be getting only the MCPX the way align are going

oldschool269
02-22-2011, 06:44 AM
i wouldnt feel sorry for Align ,mate , the heli division is only a small part of their business,

the 100 was a total goof imoo, its 5 years to late .

the mcpx will snot it .... so much so, im sure the align exec are all fanging mcpx's around the office ...
jason

Euwan
02-22-2011, 06:46 AM
LOL, They are prob so bitter they put in the company policy anyone seen flying the MCPX gets fired.

newhelliguy
02-22-2011, 06:55 AM
At this rate it seems like the 100 will not be coming till atleast March in the UK. If that is the case and HH does meet it's shipping date with the MCPX then they are in trouble.

I was going to get both but now its likely that I wil be getting only the MCPX the way align are going

When has HH come close to their release date? I have one on backorder but I expect the release date to continue to change as always.

oldschool269
02-22-2011, 08:25 AM
LOL, They are prob so bitter they put in the company policy anyone seen flying the MCPX gets fired.

i do wonder the exec that pushed the creation of the align 100 over other projects in the pipe .
i do wonder how secure his job is now , after the mcpx,

eflite did keep the release really quiet !

and to company designers ... guys and girls its 2011 , if its not collective pitch , forget it ..
jmoo
jason

desertblade400
02-22-2011, 08:27 AM
Maybe their crystal ball was a little foggy.

oldschool269
02-22-2011, 08:31 AM
Maybe their crystal ball was a little foggy.

foggy ... hmmm , the 700e was a slam dunk sucess , they hit the crack pipe so hard , through the haze they thought the 100 was a good idea ,

jason

antmeeks
02-23-2011, 06:05 PM
i wouldnt feel sorry for Align ,mate , the heli division is only a small part of their business

True - Here is Align's core business competency:

http://www.align.com.tw/shop/images/function/ce-9810.jpg

oldschool269
02-23-2011, 08:39 PM
that really sucks !!
lmao
jason

timmay
02-24-2011, 03:09 PM
My local hobby store just got in 100's today.

Crash549
02-24-2011, 03:12 PM
The have stereos and rice cookers as well.

Gadflyii
02-25-2011, 05:52 PM
True - Here is Align's core business competency:

http://www.align.com.tw/shop/images/function/ce-9810.jpg


Yeah, kind of makes you wonder hu? If a bunch of guys that make vac. cleaners can turn around and hand eflite thier ass thus far product for product, then what is eflite's core core business competency?

Just saying...
:)

frogbmth
02-25-2011, 06:01 PM
When will the upgrades for the 100 come out, and then the v2 and then the ESP super duper pro :lol:

But seriously, anything with Align printed on it will sell by the crate load, no need to feel sorry for them, and Align create competition which is good for lovers and haters alike. Remember though, not so long ago nobody thought thunder tiger's dominance could be toppled.

Rob0506
02-25-2011, 06:05 PM
Yeah, of course people who are regulars on Helifreak will prefer a CP micro, but there is a big market for noobs and the 100 or 120SR fit the bill nicely. I just think it's silly to compare them when they are completely different helis for completely different audiences. It's like someone saying that align pwnd Eflite because align came out with the 700E and all EFlite came out with was the mcpx, just doesn't make sense!

antmeeks
02-25-2011, 10:22 PM
Yeah, kind of makes you wonder hu? If a bunch of guys that make vac. cleaners can turn around and hand eflite thier ass thus far product for product, then what is eflite's core core business competency?

Just saying...
:)

Lol... the only ass-handing here would have been to the CG artist at Align if he hadn't been able to create the 3G CAD fast enough.

I can't believe some people here are actually foolish enough to fall for the smoke & mirrors.

Yes, at some point Align will have a real, ready-for-market sub-micro CP - We definitely now know it is their intention to at least "process" it (whatever that means), according to their Facebook.

But if you believe they've been working on it prior to finding the poop in their pants when the mCPX was unveiled, then... well... all I can say in response is, please say hi to Santa and the Easter Bunny for me.

By the time you have your 1st T100 3G, I'll be on my fifth mCPX and will have learned how to do rainbows & piro flips over my dining room table.

BUT - if by some miracle Align manages to get this heli to market and in consumer's hands anytime within the next 12 months, I will gladly eat crow and celebrate another consumer option in the marketplace - Heck, I might even buy it if it can be bound to a real TX.

Until then, I'm crying foul - this is just a shameless attempt by Align to freeze the market with vaporous wishful thinking.

Raptor30_V1
02-26-2011, 01:09 AM
Hello,

Eflite, Spektrum, Parkzone etc. - all this brands/ divisions belongs to Horizon-Company.

So meanwhile Align needs to buy from other MFG to offer combos, Horizon can offer complete combos even offering Tx. Horizon holds all the expertise (except nitro engines) in one of their focused division.

ALIGN seems to have passed it's own horizon, partially can be seen on some really funny moves they did and, many people jumping on the ALIGN-waggon started to be saturated and becoming more open for other MFG/ brands as well :thumbup:

Maybe the T-Rex700e is now a succes for ALIGN, but there where already a few that offered conversions before ALIGN themselves, pretty astonishing, as ALIGN before seemed to be always the first mover .. further examples of wrong or late business decisions are the T-Rex550 (pretty late), the 3G (compare to a Beast-X and you'll know), the T-Rex700 F3C (ALIGN perfection for F3C ? :YeaBaby:) ..

.. and know the T-Rex 100 :rolling.. sorry ALIGN, this is not your expertise :confused: .. not that surprisingly there are pics on the web showing an anounced T-Rex100 mod FBL ..

Success is a dangerous thing, as you start to overshoot, what you business is about and what not to do .. and there are moves ALIGN should do, as defend its position in its 250 to 700 domain, as others (e.g. Outrage) start to take away parts of the cake? Hey ALIGN, what about overworking your current design with some flaws and making it a retrofit? (e.g. offering 135/ 140 swash geometry, eliminating the swash-design-flaw, improving serviceability, implementing more modular design etc.)

You can say about Walkera what you want, but Walkera and Horizon beats down ALIGN in the domain of small heicopters all day long .. very bad move ALIGN .. :lol:

Best Regards,
Oliver

P.S: I guess the ALIGN decision-makers in the T-Rex100 affair didn't even look what's already around in this domain, else they would have recognized, that there are others doing already FBL minis .. or have they been that arrogant to believe, that there are enough ALIGN-fanboys buying whatever they will throw on the market ? :thumbdown:

Max McCarthy
02-26-2011, 05:57 PM
Mind you though, at least align don't have MAP and terminate contracts with retailers when new business advancements are made. However only time will tell why align is entering the micro market.:dontknow
P.S. I like most people, like both Align and Eflite, so I do not want to offend anyone by my comments.

Both helis look great though (trex 100 3G and eflite MCP X)

col
03-07-2011, 08:54 PM
Theres still alot to go with reguards to a decent mirco that can 3D. i have got the mcpx, yes its fun but the tail is always blowing out, tails better then msr but still poor in respects for a heli with collective pitch, its also a little scary for some indoors, really have to be on the sticks. Theres still much room for improvement, we'll just have to wait and see what the 3G100 will be like. I am sure there will be many more models of micros in the future so really each new model is a little step further is some way or another and i welcome them all.
I hope to have a micro that you can actually do some hard 3d with and the tail holds great plus has the power with 4 or 5 mins flight.
I hope Align does release a 1003g, and than i hope another company tries to improve on both and have something better again.

Brian James
03-10-2011, 12:49 PM
Mind you though, at least align don't have MAP and terminate contracts with retailers when new business advancements are made. However only time will tell why align is entering the micro market.:dontknow
P.S. I like most people, like both Align and Eflite, so I do not want to offend anyone by my comments.

Both helis look great though (trex 100 3G and eflite MCP X)

Align most certainly DOES have MAP, although most of the time it is not enforced as strictly as Horizon Hobby products.

Varc
03-13-2011, 11:26 AM
True - Here is Align's core business competency:

http://www.align.com.tw/shop/images/function/ce-9810.jpg

That explains the T100. I notice Eflite doesn't make vacuum cleaners, hmmmmmmmmmm.

jondabear
03-14-2011, 02:23 AM
HAHAHA.... well....at least the ALIGN product can be called QUALITY. :rolling

Twinsen
03-14-2011, 11:16 PM
This size CP heli is here to stay. I'm really looking forward to the Align MCP X competitor.

flerpie
03-15-2011, 01:25 PM
I'd like to buy an Align vacuum cleaner. Any distributors here in the US?
I bet they do pretty good at it - better than that POS Dyson we had.
Dyson sucks.

Hold it...wait...maybe Dyson makes a heli??? :)

Raptor30_V1
03-16-2011, 01:52 AM
Hello,

See lots of folks interested in the ALIGN vacum-cleaners .. so maybe ALIGN could increase their T-Rex 100 Sales, if buying a T-Rex 100 you get one of their vacum-cleaners for free ?:rolling

Just kidding, but always interesting how well some brands (e.g. ALIGN, Outrage) do in having followers loving their brands .. good job.:thumbup:

Best Regards,
Oliver

P.S: Some people say, the delivery delay for the MCPx is due to the fact, that ALIGN bought many of them to do some reverse-engineering for their T-Rex100-3G ? :badair: .. don't be offended, it's just a hobby and even if your an ALIGN-fan, relax .. you did not screw it up, ALIGN did .. :hug: