View Full Version : Aeolus 90!!!!!!!!
02-26-2011, 09:01 AM
Hey people just wanted to show you guys my aeolus 90. Its the cf 50 with a OS 90 sz in it! Did a custom drop in motor mount. Which litterally drops in in 5 min. Uses the same 4 bolts on the motor mount and also 2 for the fan shroud. NO cutting necessary on any thing. Now as far as gearing i have not changed anything so still waitting for a teat flight.I will keep my fellow aeolus flyers posted on preformance! - JP
02-27-2011, 10:20 PM
We need bigger pictures! I've seen custom frames for Trexs to fit 90's.
02-28-2011, 11:47 AM
Will have more bigger pics to come! And test flight info just waiting for some good weather! Yea beauty of this is there is no custom work necessary on the bird.! Drop in BABY!
03-01-2011, 08:15 AM
Yeah that's just beautiful. The Trex 600 90 engine conversion kit requires an entire custom frame and shroud.
So did you manufacture your own mount entirely or just modify the existing CNC motor mount you can buy? I can see the spacer between the motor and mount, hence why I'm curious.
Damn now I'm considering doing this to my spare Aeolus.. :P
+1 I'm waiting for good weather to fly my new second Aeolus (Only filled the tank been waiting since sigh!) and fly in general.
03-01-2011, 08:31 AM
Its a mix of the original aluminum mount and custom aluminum mounts. This is the prototype and it will be made as a one piece aluminum drop in mount soon just want to test it out first then it goes to the machine shop. I will prob be selling them if people are interested. Got a flight in but had some head issues so rebuilt the head and waiting on some better weather but the thing is just stupid.... Unboggable! cant wait to push the limits with it. maxed out my pitch after the first flight and cant wait to try it again.
03-01-2011, 01:25 PM
Aw man can't wait for more pictures and a video!
How was flight times compared to the 50?
I get about 8-13 minutes off a tank with my .53 RL pending on flight - that's my baseline. :P
03-01-2011, 01:54 PM
Only flew it for a 1/4 of a tank then my head fell apart due to not preflight checking my screws :arggg: luckly it happend on the ground. but will let you know when i can get some flights in. And will try and get more pics up today.
03-01-2011, 09:58 PM
Yikes! What flew apart, spindle bolts?
03-02-2011, 12:10 AM
no my control arm that attaches to my swash came off :(
03-02-2011, 04:16 PM
03-03-2011, 11:57 PM
Wow that's just awesome! I'm surprised it fit in between the fan shrouds.
You must get this in the air and filmed... :D
03-04-2011, 02:19 AM
Don't get me wrong - it's always cool to see people changing things and experimenting, but in this case IMO it's not a good idea, to drop-in a 91' size engine into an Aeolus 50 3D :dontknow
Technically your bird will fly, although gear-ratio (1:8.5) is to high and main blades should be 620mm at least ? On the other side, from a sizing perspective the whole doesn't make sense, as clutch, gear-module and bearings are rather undersized for a 90' size bird and the A50's fuel-tank volume will be eaten quickly by a 91' size engine ?
Even though, this is all not the point - the point is about safety and even if your experiment holds, having a crash that will be investigated, you will be in a very bad position to argument..
P.S: An Aeolus 50 3D with a good 50' size engine has plenty of powers - I do love my 2 Aeolus 50 3D GFs and everyone on my FF who has one, does as well :) .. for those wanting the max of power, I would recommend a KME Diamond 0.60' engine w/ related pipe :)
03-04-2011, 04:03 AM
I'd have to disagree, Oliver. The bearings, blades, and airframe in general does not know if it has a .30 size or a .90 size engine installed. The only difference here is the model is literally "unboggable" through high pitch maneuvers. Otherwise, the headspeed is limited by the gearing (may require a tweak or two to compensate) and governor, so it cannot over speed and tax or stress any components.
The only area I can see being an issue is the clutch, but it would have to be taxed so hard that it caused the clutch to "slip" to allow failure/burn up. As stated the Aeolus has INCREDIBLE power-to-weight ratio for a nitro (if not the best of it's class), so a 90 sized engine wouldn't even be putting out full power for this to be an issue.
03-04-2011, 04:21 AM
My post was no offense, just trying to tell the story from a liability issue if something happens :hug: ..
The Aeolus 50 3D has indeed a very-good power-to-weight ratio, but the main reasons to buy an Aeolus 50 3D (GF) are:
- the only really modular nitro available (ease of built and repair .. escpecially no electronic equipment on side-frames)
- no mental blocking, when crashing severly, a new 50 3D GF kit often costs less than a spare-basket ?
- spare part compatibility with TR600
Anyway, no bird is perfect, there are a few things (3 issues) that can be simply improved by everyone on his own.
P.S: I would buy an official Aeolus 90 3D anytime, considering it has the same modular design than his smaller brother :thumbup:
03-04-2011, 09:17 AM
Its the CF version with all optional upgrades NOT the GF- big difference. GF is all plastic, belt driven, and no metal. The cf is all carbon and metal with TT. And also disagee with Oliver but no offence taken. And the bird flys great with 610s perfect plenty of headspeed. :) +1 for UPGI2AYDD
03-04-2011, 09:35 AM
No offense is taken Oliver. :P
I have GF sides on my blinged out bird. Doesn't hurt as bad in a crash.
03-04-2011, 12:45 PM
My Aeolus 50 3D is a GF - more precisely there is more than one and had already the opportunity to build 6 of them :YeaBaby:
As usual, there are different oppinions about resin-reinforced-plastic versus alumina, everything has it's pros and cons, let's take some parts as example:
- I would never ever buy the alumina engine-mount, as the fiber-reinforced-plastic version dampens engine vibrations very well.. the only problem you can have, is, that the hex-spacers inside (4x) are to wide and therefore after many flight hours the engine-mount will start to have some side-play .. pretty easy to correct, if you make the hex-spacers shorter than the width of the engine-mount ..
- True, my GF side-frames are weaker than any CF side-frames.. this will lead after some flight-time to some elevator-axle having some serious play .. this is because of the flanged-bearing in the GF-side-frame to get loose and have lots of play .. use some JB-Weld and the big advantage of GF-side-frames absorbing vibrations better than stiff CF-frames (and cost less as well) is one your side .. :clappp
- The only part, that on a Aeolus 50 3D GF makes sense to really be tuned is, the flybar-seasaw-holder made of alumina .. had the genuine fiber-reinforced-part stripping the lever's thread during flight (after piro-flips) .. so the alumina version improves confidence in this part ..
- Washout base: whether Align nor AHF, sucks .. both have to much radial play on the main-shaft and T-piece pins guidance on the washout base is simply bad .. use Quick-UK washoutbase for little money .. it's a dream .. BTW, the swash-plate and the one from AHF suffer from the same un-perfection .. you can use QuickUK part as well if not using a CCPM-manager or FBL-head ..
There's no better machine regarding my points mentionnend in the previous post, than the Aeolus 50 3D GF-version, everything else is overpaid, as most nitro-kits are :YeaBaby: .. additionnaly some Cyclock CCPM-mixer to overcome the pain of eCCPM and you will be a very happy man/ woman :thumbup:
Best Regards to all friends of the Aeolus 50 3D .. the most underrated and underestimated nitro bird ever :hug: .. designed by people flying the birds they developed, as reparing non-modular birds are a pain :YeaBaby:
P.S: I guess everybody found out about the tail-linkage mod .. this is a no-brainer :hug:
03-04-2011, 12:51 PM
Forgot to mention, you can simply modify the GF version to become a TT.version using Align TT (TT=torque-tube)..
All you need is the AHF alumina front part and a simply made tail-boom spacer (2mm) to use parts from ALIGN. Why using parts from ALIGN ? Pretty easy, there is a Crash-kit for the T-Rex600 Nitro-Pro .. for little money :YeaBaby::YeaBaby::YeaBaby:
Spare parts comp w/ the T-Rex600 Nitro is a nice thing :thumbup:,
P.S: Yepp, the Aeolus 50 3D really deserves an own forum - but there is definetly not enough traffic or current post simply pretty irrelevant ? :dontknow
03-05-2011, 12:02 PM
You know many mods and tricks Oliver, you should really post some in other threads!
There is lots of traffic, just people are not motivated to post. If there is more effort from us than there will be more effort by others! :)
03-05-2011, 12:43 PM
Maybe we should increase our contributions - sure, quality of posts matters as well..
I don't know, what is the criteria, to get an own forum for AHF here on Helifreak ? I don't know if it has to do with the traffic, or the ads paid by MFGs .. no clou .. :confused:
Anyway pretty funny, as for Align even the most superfluous helicopter ever, the Align T-Rex 100, gets his own forum :YeaBaby:
Interesting posts could be about:
- problems when building and how to solve
- long term mods
- parts compatibility w/ ALIGN
Let's give it a try, although my guts tells me, that the Align T-Rex-50 will get an own forum, before AHF or JS will get it :YeaBaby:
P.S: The T-Rex-50 is still pretty secret, heard about rumors that it will be delayed, as Align is reworking it to the T-Rex-50-3G version :rotf
03-09-2011, 10:34 PM
03-10-2011, 12:44 AM
Yes, T-Rex 50 is the smaller brother of the brand new T-Rex 100 .. :rotf
The point of this is, that even such a joke, as ALIGN selling a micro-bird gets his own forum (compare ALIGN section) :DOH .. only because its ALIGN and some people would even buy a spare shoe-box if ALIGN is printed on it, won't mean that many people will buy it .. :badair:
So to drive the point home, JS and AHF deserve some own forum, other smaller brands maybe as well. If someone will say, hey, there will be no overview anymore, pretty simple, one main forum called ALIGN and clicking on it seeing all the sub-forums from ALIGN T-Rex 25, T-Rex 50 .. T-Rex 100 .. T-Rex 250 .. up to T-Rex 700 .. sorry, forgot the T-Rex 800 :rolling
To much sponsorship of a brand will accelerate the natural tendency of people getting saturated about a brand :confused:
P.S: Upps, didn't want to announce the even more secret T-Rex 25 coming next :rotf
03-10-2011, 08:59 AM
03-11-2011, 12:45 AM
What about some pics of your 91 mod - would be interesting. Do you have a vid showing the flight performance of this monster :) ..
The only 50' size machine I know, people are regularly modificating for a 90' size - is the Audacity Pantera-50. There they call the plus-in-power thing the "Yeaah-effect" ..
All of my Aeolus-50 3D GF were a little bit limited in collective pitch, say +12 degrees to -12 degrees max for cyclic-pitch about 10 degrees. I guess your 91' engine will be capable to swing some 620mm and over +/- 14 degrees of collective (10 degr. cyclic) w/o bogging ?
03-18-2011, 07:40 PM
Please tell me how you got the 50 clutch and clutch hub to fit the 90 engine....!!!