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Rockohaulic
02-12-2007, 10:47 PM
I saw the Knight 50 Pro at the Vegas Fun fly. I was very impressed. But I am completely unfamiliar with the head design.

I am also looking at the Hurrican 50, and from what I can see, the head design looks very similar to the "typical" ccpm head of the Align Trex. In other words, it is a proven design.

Is the Knight 50 design similar to any other Helicopter head design??? Does it have any inherent advantages or disadvantages to other head designs?

Thanks,
Doug

Ade_Law
02-13-2007, 02:15 AM
its quite similar to the Sceadu head but with revised arm lengths. The sport and 3d have multiple holes in the mixer arms to adjust the flybar ratio to suite your flying style.

on the 3d setting (i redrilled my pro arms myself) you get very very fast cyclics with very quick stops with little or no weird pitch tendancies in FFF.

Ade

Rockohaulic
02-13-2007, 05:13 PM
Hmmm, you mean you don't get the pitch tendancies - that the EVOs are know for - in forward flight???

Any close up pictures of the head?

TMoore
02-25-2007, 09:16 PM
Hmmm, you mean you don't get the pitch tendancies - that the EVOs are know for - in forward flight???



Where do you come up with this stuff? Your EVO may have had pitch up tendancies but the rest of the world's don't. I've got 2 EVO50's and an EVO90 and these machines track like they are on rails. Just because you can't get to grips with yours doesn't mean the rest of the flying public had issues.

TM

Ade_Law
02-26-2007, 02:56 AM
the reason the evo pictches is down to those evil paddles stick some Vs or TT white paddles its a lot better.

http://www.compassmodel.com/Images/flybar%20system.jpg

this is the sport. the 3d is the same but has a metal yoke, metal flybar carrier and metal washout, Note the bearings on the A arms for the washout arms.

mine tracks as well as the sceadu but has quicker cyclics and crisper stops.

Ade

captcasper7
07-14-2007, 07:43 AM
the reason the evo pictches is down to those evil paddles stick some Vs or TT white paddles its a lot better.

http://www.compassmodel.com/Images/flybar%20system.jpg

this is the sport. the 3d is the same but has a metal yoke, metal flybar carrier and metal washout, Note the bearings on the A arms for the washout arms.

mine tracks as well as the sceadu but has quicker cyclics and crisper stops.

Ade

I have to agree I put some TT greens on my EVO 50 and its much better in ff

captcasper7
07-14-2007, 07:48 AM
I forgot to ask my question :oops:

I am just about to get a Knight 50, as one I my EVO 50's hit the deck and everything broke, I managed to save the gyro and tail servo.

Are there any issue with the head that need to be upgraded out of the box?

J3DI
07-18-2007, 06:44 AM
Not really, i have changed to a 440mm align flybar and i like this setup but upgrades aren't really required.

Ah Clem
07-19-2007, 01:17 PM
The Bell/Hiller mixing design, goes back to Kalt in the 1980's (at least that is the first that I saw of it).

Mixing levers pivot at the outside of the see-saw. Hirobo, at the time, used Kavan style mixing, where the levers pivoted at the inside of the see-saw, towards the hub.

Both of these had overslung flybars.

The Knight head is very, very beefy, with beautiful machine work.

ez2bgman
07-22-2007, 03:52 PM
I forgot to ask my question :oops:

I am just about to get a Knight 50, as one I my EVO 50's hit the deck and everything broke, I managed to save the gyro and tail servo.

Are there any issue with the head that need to be upgraded out of the box?

Which Knight do you plan on getting? I highly recommend the Knight 3D. It is the newest Knight in the Compass lineup and uses the best control layout of the three. It is also light. Mine tips the scales at about 7.5 lbs. The 3D is very fast on the cyclics yet stable during hovering maneuvers and FFF.

dose
08-05-2007, 09:12 PM
Yes the knight 3D is the way to go. It is the closes thing to a 90 ive seen so far.
I also fly my 3D no upgrades, and there is nothing i would change.
The sport the only thing i change was the align longer flybar and the 3D paddles so that it could roll a little closer to the speed on my 3D.