How many people want finless to do a mini-titan video?

[rdlohr]

Seems like a nice bird. How many of you have them and is this bird comparible to the TREX 450SE?

[Lzfalcon]

Rick,
Do you have one? I'm putting one to gether this weekend.

[rdlohr]

No. I'm considering buying one. I promised a friend I would do mounts for them if they catch on. Why did you get it over say a 450 TREX SE?

Rick

[Lzfalcon]

I have a 450SE and i like it alot. I have been a raptor fan for some time flying the 30, 50 and my son flys a 90. So i thought I would try this out. I also wanted to get familiar with them to assist those who may be interested in building and flying one around the cape.

[rdlohr]

Excellent. I look forward to hearing what you think of it.

We love the Cape! We try to swing by each summer for a few days.

Rick

[Lzfalcon]

Also, Finless should do a video on this one. The trex 600 videos were great. as you know for someone that does not have the assistance of another heli pilot, can make for frustrating moments

[rdlohr]

Absolutely. If there is enough interest, I bet someone will sponsor him. Its great cheap exposure!

Rick

[Skiddz]

I hadn't thought of buying one until just now. I got a little bonus at work and was thinking of building up another 450SE... Maybe the little Raptor might be a good idea.. I'd love to see a video on it either way.

[Don223]

I just finished putting one together and trimming it in the basement. It's my first mini so I can only compare it to my R30 and R60. The ball links need to get loosened, but after that it seems much better than I expected for a heli of this size.

Can't believe I waited this long to finally get a mini electric.

I also would like to see a video!

[rdlohr]

A couple "No's" went in with no post. Can you add some words so we understand why?

Rick

[TMoore]

There is a gyro mount already molded into the frames so no mount is needed. As far as a build video is concerned, I can't see much of a reason as the instructions are quite good and it flies right out of the box but that's me.

TM

[rdlohr]

Terry,

This would just give additional mounting space for a Spectrum receiver, gyro, or whatever. I am only entertaining it because some have asked for it.

Rick

[torkboy]

Whats wrong with having the gyro protected. like on the trex, and moving it to the bottom of the mini titan? Some want to preserve our gyro investment.

[TMoore]

Whats wrong with having the gyro protected. like on the trex, and moving it to the bottom of the mini titan? Some want to preserve our gyro investment.
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Do y'all need glasses?

There is a ledge on the side of the frames to mount the RX and the gyro goes inside the GD frames were it is protected.

TM

[rdlohr]

GD frames

That some kind of special high tech frame? :wink:

People like choices. I like the idea of the DX receiver right under the boom there. It locates the antenaes at a location where they are unobstructed from either side. It also makes the wiring easy to get to.

[TMoore]

People like choices. I like the idea of the DX receiver right under the boom there. It locates the antenaes at a location where they are unobstructed from either side. It also makes the wiring easy to get to.


Are you serious? Do you have a Mini Titan? Have you built or wired one up?

I've done 3 of them already and it's hard to beat all the wires running on the outside of the frames with the gyro directly under the boom on the little platform. The machine that I demo for the LHS has the AR6100 sitting vertically on the little radio platform with a 2100T sitting right under the tail boom on the platform. If you stick the RX under the tail boom where the gyro sits now, that means you will have to pull the RX out EVERY time you need to do something to it.

Does that sound easeir to you?

TM

[rdlohr]

I've done 3 of them already and it's hard to beat all the wires running on the outside of the frames with the gyro directly under the boom on the little platform. The machine that I demo for the LHS has the AR6100 sitting vertically on the little radio platform with a 2100T sitting right under the tail boom on the platform. If you stick the RX under the tail boom where the gyro sits now, that means you will have to pull the RX out EVERY time you need to do something to it.

Does that sound easeir to you?


I'd have to see one. Sounds nice though. Apparently the pictures are deceiving. I would have thought wiring the receiver with it tucked in there would be a pain. I also would have thought that the antenae wires would be somewhat obstructed in there. Doesn't much matter what you or I think anyhow, its more what the community wants. If there is much interest, I'll make some mounts. If it sounds like a great heli in comparison to the SE, I may even buy one as my backup.

The question at hand though is really whether enough people are building them to warrant Bob doing a video of it. Its actually somewhat of a self-fulfilling phrophecy though because when bob does a vid, many people buy the heli. As much as you don't find Bob's videos helpful, many thousands of people do as evidenced by the site statistics and the glowing reviews people give.

Rick

[torkboy]

Personally id like my recievers inside, and protected, cause one day, it will go in on the reciever side, and ruin it, my opinion though, take it how it stands.

[rdlohr]

Oh, I was assuming that under the boom would be considered a safe spot. I've never had one person tell me their gyro got hurt when it was mounted under the boom. And I would think that I would be the first person people would tell. Granted, I would say inside is even safer. What costs more, a gyro or a receiver? You want to protect the most expensive part first.

[TMoore]

The question at hand though is really whether enough people are building them to warrant Bob doing a video of it. Its actually somewhat of a self-fulfilling phrophecy though because when bob does a vid, many people buy the heli. As much as you don't find Bob's videos helpful, many thousands of people do as evidenced by the site statistics and the glowing reviews people give.


That's great. It doesn't matter to me one way or the other. I've never needed to watch one of Bob's videos. IMHO, it's better to teach the concept of setup rather than to do it by rote. That way you can apply it to any heli regardless of the equpment that's in it. Some folks are just too lazy to read manuals or even try to figure things out and you can witness this every day on the forums by the questions that are asked.

The problem with so many folks on the internet is that they say things before they have the facts in hand. Like Torkboy here. He doesn't own a Mini Titan but finds it necessary to constantly chime in when he can promote something he flies like the gyro mount you make. Most of the time it's clear to those of us that actually fly the machines that he doesn 't know what he's talking about.

C'mon Rick, how much mileage can you possibly get out of a piece of polycarbonate? TT did the job right on this model. If you jam the RX under the boom there is virtually no space left to mount a 401 or a 2100T. I've got one. Want me to measure it up for you and send you the dimensions and photos? The gyro on the model that I fly is under the boom and the RX is right beside it on the molded ledge. I've flown it dozens of times and it works.

Go look at one and see for yourself.

TM

[rdlohr]

That's great. It doesn't matter to me one way or the other. I've never needed to watch one of Bob's videos. IMHO, it's better to teach the concept of setup rather than to do it by rote. That way you can apply it to any heli regardless of the equpment that's in it. Some folks are just too lazy to read manuals or even try to figure things out and you can witness this every day on the forums by the questions that are asked.

Thats a pretty negative synopsis coming from someone who has never watched one of Bob's vids. Bob is a teacher. His vids do exactly what you want, teach people the concepts. If people don't read the manual, shame on them.


Most of the time it's clear to those of us that actually fly the machines that he doesn 't know what he's talking about.

Once again pretty negative about a kid that is a damn good flyer! Knowledge will come with years of experience but I would say he is off to an awesome start!




C'mon Rick, how much mileage can you possibly get out of a piece of polycarbonate? TT did the job right on this model. If you jam the RX under the boom there is virtually no space left to mount a 401 or a 2100T. I've got one. Want me to measure it up for you and send you the dimensions and photos? The gyro on the model that I fly is under the boom and the RX is right beside it on the molded ledge. I've flown it dozens of times and it works.

As I said earlier. I'm just pursuing this because I was solicited to make a mount. If there is interest, I will continue.


Want me to measure it up for you and send you the dimensions and photos? The gyro on the model that I fly is under the boom and the RX is right beside it on the molded ledge. I've flown it dozens of times and it works.

Thanks. No need to measure, but detailed pictures are worth a thousand words.

I also would love to hear how it compares to the TREX 450 SE.

Rick

[TMoore]

Rick,


Thats a pretty negative synopsis coming from someone who has never watched one of Bob's vids. Bob is a teacher. His vids do exactly what you want, teach people the concepts. If people don't read the manual, shame on them.


I said I didn't need to watch them. I didn't say I never watched them.

Once again pretty negative about a kid that is a damn good flyer! Knowledge will come with years of experience but I would say he is off to an awesome start! Don't confuse reality with negativity, they aren't the same. What's flying got to do with actually knowing what you are talking about? You need both. I'm just pointing out that before you say something it's better to actually know what you are talking about rather than just put it out there because you saw it in a picture or read it in a forum. My rule of thumb is to speak about things that I actually have first hand knowledge of and can reproduce on demand. There's way too many dudes on this forum and others that have burned too few battery packs and even less fuel dispensing advice like Dr. Laura.


Try this link: http://www.runryder.net/helicopter/t322440p1/

A dude from Portugal already made a mount.

How does the Mini T fly?

Well, first of all the woodies it comes with are good for hovering but that's it. When you build it, the bearings need to be glued into their respective parts because if you don't the head won't stay in track. The Tail is miles ahead of the Trex's in terms of how it responds and lets the gyro work. You can really feel the difference. In general, it's the best plastic 450 size heli out there right now. Most folks make the mistake of comparing it to the Trex SE and not the plastic version. There is no comparison IMHO. The Titan blows the plastic Rex away with decent blades and comes very close in performance to the SE. With good servos and attention to detail when you build it, the performance is at least one level better than a plastic Rex in terms of overall stability and tail control. The Mini Titan is at least as quick to respond to control inputs as my Trex's and in general I like the layout better on the Mini T. In short, it's the machine I would recommend to someone that wanted to learn to fly and wanted an electric to do it with.

TM

[rdlohr]

Well, first of all the woodies it comes with are good for hovering but that's it. When you build it, the bearings need to be glued into their respective parts because if you don't the head won't stay in track. The Tail is miles ahead of the Trex's in terms of how it responds and lets the gyro work. You can really feel the difference. In general, it's the best plastic 450 size heli out there right now. Most folks make the mistake of comparing it to the Trex SE and not the plastic version. There is no comparison IMHO. The Titan blows the plastic Rex away with decent blades and comes very close in performance to the SE. With good servos and attention to detail when you build it, the performance is at least one level better than a plastic Rex in terms of overall stability and tail control. The Mini Titan is at least as quick to respond to control inputs as my Trex's and in general I like the layout better on the Mini T. In short, it's the machine I would recommend to someone that wanted to learn to fly and wanted an electric to do it with.


Thats what I was looking for. Sounds like it is a nice bird. Hopefully they will come out with metal soon so we can compare to an SE. If it turns out the better bird I would buy it. The major drawback to doing that is I would need another bin of parts since I'm assuming they won't be interchangable.

Rick

[torkboy]

Yes I do own a mini titan, its just still in the box. Rick has made a good gyro mount for the trex, and its done the job, and brought him alot of buisness, now whats wrong with taking the same idea over to another heli? We all have our own ways to this hobby, and there is no right way, and wrong way, its the persons choice what he wants to do with his machine, sure someone may help him set it up, and if they dont like they way that person has set it up for them, they can change it back.

[Lzfalcon]

Excellent. I look forward to hearing what you think of it.

We love the Cape! We try to swing by each summer for a few days.

Rick
Hey Rick,
As mentioned I built and finished with the exception of the servos. I'll just point out a few things as a quick overview. all of the parts went together real smooth. Parts fit like a glove with the exception of the ball links. mine were tight and had to use needle nose to squeeze to obtain the loose fit. Thrust bearings on the main rotor grips went in first. Most of the helis i put together thrust went closest to the screw. It appears that the flat washers has a raised side, (possibly a bur) may have been due to the way they were made. Washout linkage was stiff, I filed the insides of where the washout linkage fits onto the flybar control lever. Frame appears to be stong, however all one piece. any and all parts are easy to replace. Instruction indicate using r48 to hold the canopy post to a frame space, I decided to put a little CA on the post to thicken for a tight fit. Solid main gear and auto drive gear. Tail assembly nice and smooth, the tail pitch control works nice and smooth with a double joint lever.Tail tube is inserted into a tail boom bracket (It's a separate rectangular box unit that slips into the rear of the frame, pretty neat, as i had read some where before, that the tail rod guides, tail servo tray, and tail support bracket are shown being put on the tube after the tailboom bracket is put on. I did this first. A bit frustration came as I wanted to put HS65. TO BIG. You need the three servos to be no longer than 22mm, I not to sure if i would use the 55. I'm looking around. Top loaded motor (I like) battery mounted as the trex, upfront, for now i used the side plate for the reciver, and the gyro csm420 between the fram, the esc upfront under the battrey tray. Solid all plastic , nice easy build. Thats it for now. Can't wait to finish.