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chopperdudes
02-18-2007, 12:07 PM
the bell mixer arms have a short side and a long side, the short side is attached to the head while the long side is attached to the swash plate. So I said to myself, is it possible for me to increase the bell-hiller ratio? ie increase the effect the blades have on cyclic per amount the paddles have. (this increase cyclic and is very good for people like me who intends to do mild 3D with the blade before going up to a rex) And then I realize, what if I switch the mixer arms around so that the long side is attached to the head and the short side is attached to the swash. This will increase leverage and thus increasing cyclic response. The long side of the mixer arm will have a chance of simply ‘touching’ the paddle control frame push rods at extreme negative possible, but this simple ‘touching’ will not provide any ill effects and will not bind (when it does touch, the paddle control frame pushrod will simply rotate alittle bit and prevent binding).

edzinator
02-19-2007, 12:42 PM
Awesome thinking Chopperdudes! It really did make my heli whip arround now!
thanks

edz

chopperdudes
02-19-2007, 03:42 PM
ya, but alot less stable, you'll have to cope with that or you'll have to come up with a longer flybar that'll fit the stock paddles, or get the hornet lightened paddles, i didn't feel like spending money so i just did this mod :D .

i can roll it inverted at less than 5ft i'd say, could go lower, but have never tried. and i need a new batt/charger since the one i'm using right now is going and the power really drop when your collective management is off.

edzinator
02-19-2007, 05:20 PM
I will find someone to video my heli so I can post it's agility and stability in flight... it really flies well, O I totally forgot to mention the dampeners I use, they arent "O"rings, they are turned from motor mount rubber very stiff... I used an bladegrip brg as well with outstanding control, but I got a shake on spooldown so I made dampeners. I will try to post photo of them soon as well.
MSCompositusa.com has great prices on the flybar and paddles, view my gallery if you want a look.

edz

chopperdudes
02-19-2007, 05:31 PM
stability is decreased, and especially in wind since i change the flybar ratio. i use stock orings, (which came with the hub) and they're EXTREMELY stiff, dunno why, stiffer than the stock ones (the 1's that came with heli). and an extra step washer in between the oring and the step washer against the bearing. it can roll on the spot, provided you've got enough power/headspeed.