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EviLSiN
04-29-2011, 12:44 AM
Just wanted to see how many people are as excited as I am about this new monster. I'm doing some pretty extreme stuff in preparation for it's release.

I originally wanted to move up from my trex600 to a 700 just because the big heli's are the reason I'm here. With all I've read about logo heli's and seeing this new one. I'm sold.

So lemme see your votes people!!:peace

oldschool269
04-29-2011, 12:47 AM
lol , i dont see a poll.

but the poll should be , can logo make enough exxtremes to keep the public happy ...
i would say not likely

mikado probably made 1000 of them , but need 10,000 of them to fill the backorder of interested people .

lol
logo exxtreme , good luck finding one
hahaha
jason

EviLSiN
04-29-2011, 12:50 AM
Sorry, when you post it the thread comes up while you are still making the poll.:rolling

Thunder Fighter
04-29-2011, 06:50 AM
I want one but will probably wait till after the first run of heli's to see what looks like the best setup.

OverTemp
04-29-2011, 08:08 AM
Looks really nice, and of course I WANT one, but after watching the big boys fly at Huntsville, I realize I don't NEED one. In fact it'd probably slow my learning, or just be a hangar queen.

Plus... I'd need a new charger for 7S.

GimpyGolden
04-29-2011, 08:45 AM
+1 you are thinking exact as me OT, only I am good charger wise.

EviLSiN
04-29-2011, 11:32 AM
mikado probably made 1000 of them , but need 10,000 of them to fill the backorder of interested people .

lol
logo exxtreme , good luck finding one
hahaha
jason

yeah, that really got me thinking. Is there going to be a place or time where people can put money down on pre ordering 1?

HeathH
04-29-2011, 11:50 AM
I would like to set one up, but I will wait till ircha to see it in person first though. If it looks to be too heavy for 710s then I will most likely not get it.

4cyclic
04-29-2011, 01:41 PM
I've got 2x PL8's so charging 7s ain't a concern, as it'll do up to 8s.
Also I'm very happy with the 690se, so probably will be xxtremely happy flying 800's on the Xxtreme.

oldschool269
04-29-2011, 03:03 PM
yeah, that really got me thinking. Is there going to be a place or time where people can put money down on pre ordering 1?

its so early days , like mikado havent even priced it yet.

but it would be cool, if they did price it , AND put a 50% deposit on preorder , so everyone who was going to buy one could put their hands up , and mikado know what size parts run to do ,.


they need to fill German orders first .. then after that , european orders , then usa , and rest of the world

i come in under rest of the world , so i dont expect to even see a kit for sale .. for two years .

shall we have a stab at RRP ? 2800$ will be my guess for a base kit ..thats an honest estimation of what mikado intellectual property mark up is on their items
jason

worldofmaya
04-29-2011, 03:12 PM
That's not true... you US guys will not be the last... for example the Carbon frame was sold at the Mikado online shop and at Readyheli first, than some German shops and later the rest...
-Klaus

EviLSiN
04-29-2011, 03:16 PM
shall we have a stab at RRP ? 2800$ will be my guess for a base kit ..thats an honest estimation of what mikado intellectual property mark up is on their items
jason
yeah my guess was in the $2500 range but I'm prepping for the 3k range, just in case.
I'm glad, in a way, that it won't be out for awhile so that I can save for it but it sucks cuz I can already taste it and the wife ok'ed it as long as I quit my indoor cart racing league.
Kinda sucks but worth it as I was just in it for something to do.
Heli's are pretty much starting to take over my other hobbies.

oldschool269
04-29-2011, 03:18 PM
you could be right ... i know i should wash my mouth out .. but i wish align were releasing this kit .. they have everything ready to pump something like this out for a reasonable cost ..

when we do see , the rrp ... please take into account , this is mikados first complete CF heli kit , and First kit with CNC alloy head ,+ intellectual property+lustfull demand .. this thing wont be cheap at all.

but , i will still line up to buy one , imoo much better than a SG vibe , for around the same money
hehehehe
jason

NTM
04-29-2011, 03:19 PM
Personally I think mikado missed the mark from a marketing standpoint.
They'd have sold alot more helis in the short term if they'd simply built upon the recent marketing success they've had with the logo 600.
What they needed was a logo 600 scaled up a bit to swing 690 to 710mm blades with a torque tube tail.
That would have had folks moving en masse from the trex 700e to the mikado 700 sized heli.
For the average hobbyist, it's going to be too large of a jump now, with the high (I'm thinking really high) cost of the kit, plus the required 14s power setup.
In essence, mikado has distanced themselves from the mainstream heli hobbyist's again. Perhaps intentionally, perhaps not.

I myself probably won't be getting one for the simple fact that you can build a trex 700e completely ready to fly, with all electronics and a v-bar, for less than what this "exxtreme" airframe is likely to cost.
If I wanted a hangar queen or something that I would fly above 8 feet at all times, I'd consider the new logo. But my heli's will all take a dirt nap sooner or later...

I sure wish mikado had just built a solid 690mm to 710mm machine capable of running 2200rpm. Now I'm actually looking at changing over to running the upcoming synergy E9's or another as yet unreleased 700 size electric.
I've only got one logo 600 left at this point, I'd cleared the decks in anticipation of the logo 700's arrival, so I need some helis, but I don't think the "exxtreme" is going to work for me. The goofy name certainly doesn't help, lol :D .

Regards,
Nathan

oldschool269
04-29-2011, 03:27 PM
nathan , isnt the CARBON frame 600se/690se a 700 heli ? it takes a 5025 motor ? runs 690 mm mains ?

i understand you wanted something in between what they have done .. and what the 600se leaves out .

but hey , i dont mind , its huge cost will be one thing that slows it down , i mean , you cant even get an ESC for it at reasonable cost yet , its all markup on that high end gear....
kontronic are still making motors for it , then testing ... it will be a while before we get our greasy mits on the gear to finish one of these for reasonable cost
jason

worldofmaya
04-29-2011, 03:34 PM
My favourite 700-class model doesn't have a TT and has a belt-based 2-stage drive-train. Takes all the beating even with the most powerful custom motors. That's what I want... quiet, durable and without the need of tuning.
I'm flying a custom Trex700-based model now for some time, I can say it's TT improved the missing tail performance of my 600SE and it takes way more beating than my Logo. But it's by far not as quiet in terms of vibrations as my 600SE and don't talk about quality.
The Logo 800 will hopefully take some serious beating without shaved gears or anything else at least for the next season... than it's something to think about. It's size is cool... I just can imagine flying some hard Tic-Tocs or rainbows hardly above the ground with this machine. Of course crash costs will get insane...
-Klaus

EviLSiN
04-29-2011, 03:35 PM
In essence, mikado has distanced themselves from the mainstream heli hobbyist's again. Perhaps intentionally, perhaps not.

Regards,
Nathan
To me, this is part of the attraction. I really like having something many don't already have. On top of that, I really believe this heli will be in a league of it's own and to own won would be awesome.
To me it's like being a Mustang or Camaro guy, all the while wanting the Ferrari. Alot of guys you may know might have a Camaro or Mustang, but how many have a Ferrari?:banana

worldofmaya
04-29-2011, 03:56 PM
Alot of guys you may know might have a Camaro or Mustang, but how many have a Ferrari?:banana

Too many... at least here :face
-klaus

EviLSiN
04-29-2011, 03:59 PM
Too many... at least here :face
-klaus
Well, you get my point dont you?:)

worldofmaya
04-29-2011, 04:10 PM
Sure :cheers
It's just funny to read... for example Henseleits are around "every" corner here, most of the pilots outside of Europe don't even know about them. On the other side it's not that easy to get parts here for an Trex700...
But than again I don't see Mustangs that often... to come back to your statement.
-Klaus

don-dadda
04-29-2011, 04:14 PM
You guys really think this thing is gonna cost more than twice as much as a TDR or a Shape. I'm guessing $1500 will be the price of the kit.

oldschool269
04-29-2011, 04:19 PM
You guys really think this thing is gonna cost more than twice as much as a TDR or a Shape. I'm guessing $1500 will be the price of the kit.

you have no idea how much i hope you are right !!!!!! really and seriously ,,,,,
hmmm
now there is a 14mm mainshaft , 12mm spindle , 175t maingeared , 10mm tt , heli coming , how long before someone else builds a true heavy weight.
jason

EviLSiN
04-29-2011, 04:31 PM
You guys really think this thing is gonna cost more than twice as much as a TDR or a Shape. I'm guessing $1500 will be the price of the kit.
I hope you're right too, but I'm prepping for the big end of the cost range so that there are no suprises. Hell, if it is cheaper, I might have money for possible upgrades for it or whatever other heli's I have.

OverTemp
04-29-2011, 08:11 PM
In all honesty, all the big parts are the cheapest parts of a kit. It's much much simpler than a JR Vibe 90SG or comparable. I'm really curious too.

NTM
04-29-2011, 09:45 PM
nathan , isnt the CARBON frame 600se/690se a 700 heli ? it takes a 5025 motor ? runs 690 mm mains ?




I sure wish mikado had just built a solid 690mm to 710mm machine capable of running 2200rpm.

There's your answer.
I've had quite a few 600se's, and frankly even the heavyweight trex 700e's completely dominate them for hard 3d.
I'm not saying the new logo is undesirable at all.
I'm saying they would have sold many, many more 700 class helis than they will of this 800 class.