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Huthy
03-04-2007, 07:42 PM
Hi guys,

The Razor maidened to day, and we had a few challenges with the CC85 that I am curious to put out there.

I have been running with Clint's setup guide, but I have hit a wall. It may be the speedie, or me, but having followed Clint's setup to the letter, I am thinking it is the speedie.

All of the settings, spool up speeds, motor power, etc, and as per his Clint's Guide. I have then...

1. I have calibrated the Throttle.
2. Set the Speedie in Heli: Fixed Endpoint
3. I have spooled the heli up to 75% and tached the Head to get the "Target" headspeed.
4. Changed to Heli: Governed (High or Low does the same thing)
5. With the sticks centred, I start to roll up the centre point on the throttle curve to find the sweet spot for the Target headspeed. I get to 1.5 to 2.5% and the heli is soft starting... then BANG full power, heli does a 360 on the ground, throttle hold is thrown and I go to change my underware.

NOW... what makes this interesting is this. Change it back to Heli: Fixed Endpoints, Stunt 1 on the Radio is 100-100-100 (ie Flat across the top). Throttle hold on, into Stunt 1, throttle hold off and it soft spools beautifully.

I flew the heli like this for the rest of that day, motor, esc and bats were all cool, and the world was wonderful.

So, has anyone got any idea as to why, when in governed mode, it kicks in like a mule? I can certainly say that the MA Main Gear in this sucker is TOUGH... after this happening twice, with full piros on the ground, the main gear is perfect.

I know Will and Clint, and many others are running these in Governed mode and they LOVE IT... but what's going on with this? I know it has to work, and I am pretty sure it isn't me.

Advice would be appreicated.

Thanks,

Chris

Huthy
03-04-2007, 09:14 PM
Sorry, probably should have mentioned the following:

ESC is running 1.55 software
Radio is a JR 9X
Motor is a Tango 45-08
Running 10 S

Thanks,

Chris

mudbogger2
03-04-2007, 10:17 PM
Do you have any throttle trim applied? Mine did some wierd stuff with my throttle trim all the way down. I removed the trim and recalibrated everything, no more issues for me. :dontknow

Huthy
03-04-2007, 10:45 PM
Thanks Jon, but all trims were zero. I know it has to work... it's just a matter of why...??

Huthy
03-05-2007, 06:52 AM
OK, here is an update... and now I don't know what is going on.

I just disconnected the primary belt (ie Motor to Pulley) so that there is no drive to the rest of the model.

Changed the speedie to Governed Low, and guess what, it spooled up the motor beautifully. I didn't let it run too long as I didn't want the motor running under no load, but it was very different to yesteday.

Changed to Governed High and again, it ramped up as expected. No immediate power surges, it was very well behaved.

So at the field this weekend, I will try it with the blades removed first, but it looks like it is working.

What happened yesterday... I DO NOT KNOW!!!!

Will keep you posted.

Thanks,

Chris

misskimo
03-05-2007, 11:26 AM
hey , one thing you got to remember with CC and schulze esc , lets say you throttle up in normal mod , you give it 20% throttle , and you let the softstart catch up to that % , its done its job , anything above that isnt softstart anymore , best thing to do is flip straight to Idle one where you have a flat line for gov , it will softstart and go straight to your %

misskimo
03-05-2007, 11:31 AM
also hacker will do that too ,

Clintstone
03-05-2007, 10:44 PM
I am running 3 flat line throttle control values. I have seen the controller default to airplane mode if while the usb is plugged in you attempt to plug in the battery and it doesn't go. I always read device before turning off the castle link settup to make sure everything took like it was supose to. I hope it is all fixed for you.

Huthy
03-11-2007, 08:14 AM
OK, was at the field today and guess what... everything went EXACTLY as I would have expected that it should have last weekend. So... go figure.

Running in Governed High and everything is sweet.

Aussieheliguy
03-12-2007, 04:17 AM
Hey Chris, must have been the way I spoke to it on the phone....

Bernie

r2160
03-12-2007, 04:29 AM
Maybe it was SCARED to meet you bernie, I know that chris and I are LOL

glenni

Aussieheliguy
03-12-2007, 04:36 AM
LOL

With good reason, I'm a bad dude......LOL

BigB

t-rexn8
03-31-2007, 12:52 AM
Where is the video?? :dontknow