Poll request: New pilot video by and for new pilots

[Jermo]

is there any interest in a instructional video series like a flight school done by a new pilot specifically for new pilots? The concept is to have the series expand as I progress and is primarily for the beginner.

My thought is that only a new pilot really understands the view and it's easier to explain from that perspective when you still remember it.

Jermo

[MicroMan]

If youre planning on doing an instructional video I would suggest somthing along RADD's Rotary School of Flying. I wouldnt go with the long version but the shorter version, and yes Id be interested in a video as a new pilot. Heres the link to the short version, http://www.dream-models.com/eco/fieldManual.html

I have to say as Ive been slowly learning the principles of helis I get the most out the ones that show the movements of the heli as it relates to the sticks on the radio, like in a split screen type of setup.

[ClayK]

Everyone is a new pilot at some point or another but only an experienced pilot can coach someone on what's correct and what's not. So, in that respect, everyone has insight on what new pilots go through. Only one that has been through a variety of different training techniques and knows what will work ultimately or what will only work in the short term. Someone without any experience can't comprehend or see the entire impact of what's being taught and why. Shortly put, a newbie can't coach a newbie, it's like the blind leading the blind. Just my opinion.

[DebianDog]

I would say go over it with a few people before going "public"

Clay and I made that mistake once too! ;)

[Jermo]

I would say go over it with a few people before going "public"

Clay and I made that mistake once too! ;)

ROFL...well Clay probably isn't a newb so he doesn't have the required perspective!! :D
Jermo

Edit: this is a project that would be ongoing and would probably have contributions by more than one person. I expect it would take several months to have what I would consider to be a semi complete project.

[DebianDog]

Clay and I are both NEWBIES compared to many around here. Heck I have been flying longer than Clay. He flies better than me though. :lol:

[maltydog]

yea, i would like to see something like that. i can provide video that show good examples on how not to do things.

gw.

[Jermo]

hehe.. :) I should take a joke better.. :lol:
Jermo

[EricW]

Great idea imo,

I like the RADD's Rotary School of Flying a lot, and all in there is true but it's also nice to see the stages of a beginner/beginners, as he discovers why it is all true.
There's so much great info around that it's sometimes hard to find what your looking for imo, simply because you don't know what your looking for :).
So you try some things others have tried and found out, without actually knowing what's going on.
That's the ideal moment for a expert to hop in and explain the basics behind the found truth.

A great challenge btw,

Eric

[Jermo]

I'm working on an outline for hte project,
so far it looks like (in no specific order):
[list]
Safety
Ground School
Mechanics
Electrical/Electronics
Flight School
Simulator
[list]

Jermo

[DebianDog]

I wish posts weren't moved like this without good reason. This question/poll is best answered by the community as a whole, not just by new folks..


I think some one is yanking your chain :lol:

[slikrx]

I concur with the idea being a good one. One possibility is (like you suggested) a collaborative efort, where a "seasoned vet" could be nearby to help/instruct/comment.

[sleddog7]

I strongly agree with Clay about instruction. ONLY the experienced should instruct/train the inexperienced.

Jermo, I'll bet if you were to ask a potential student (he or she starting from zero knowledge and familiarity) if they wish to recieve instruction from an individual with 1 or 2 months experience with limited versatility OR recieve instruction from a long time veteran who is well rounded in the hobby of RC Helis; Make no mistake, they'll pick the latter. :thumbup:

[BravoSlicker]

I'm with Clay and sleddog7 on this one. You really can't see the whole picture until your experienced enough and then you look back and think about what caused stumbling blocks in the start. If I were new, I would much rather watch a video from a seasoned pilot than compare myself to someone making the same mistakes. You learn by aspiring to reach the higer level of your teacher.

Jermo, I'm betting that if you could go back and remake your early DX7 videos, you would do something different because of what you have learned along the way.

[x5girl]

As a "true" newbie (sim for two months with only one real heli hover experience to date), I would much rather learn from my mistakes using a sim program where you can learn to correct your stick movements "real time" before going out for the first time and risking hundreds of dollars. It would seem that making these videos would be very time consuming and redundant with what already exists in these forums. The expertise of the HeliFreak members is invaluable. jmo :)

[Nate Quan]

Are we trying to re-invent the wheel here?

[sleddog7]

Jermo, I got say you're a great asset to HF newbies and many applaud your efforts, input and enthusiasm here too.

Like your crazy Ricochet Rabbit avatar you're ALL over the road here at the Freak and running with your head down. I'm gonna say it out loud and you might not like it, but slow down a bit. It's not a race and there is no finish line.

I think we both share the very same intense enthusiasm for helis, but I used my enthusiasm to hone and expand my skills of actual flying and I really want to see you there at the advanced level too!

Get into FF,FFF and transition to landings. With that very basic that experience under your belt you'll probably feel even better about making a BASIC instructional video for noobs, Furthermore a noob would look up to you for that, like the way Finless receives it.

I'm not writing this to bash,down,flame or knock you back, NOT my intent. Take it slow and steady and your efforts will pay for experience. :thumbup:

[WayneBrown]

Maybe we should get some experienced hotshots to make a how-to video.
There's a tasking for all that free time You'll have at Birmingham Dan. :D
Be interesting to see what advice you can get from the 'pro's' in a 3 minute interview...

[Jermo]

Maybe we should get some experienced hotshots to make a how-to video.
There's a tasking for all that free time You'll have at Birmingham Dan. :D
Be interesting to see what advice you can get from the 'pro's' in a 3 minute interview...

:mrgreen: :hug:

I don't disagree or take offense :) My strengths are electronics/electrical and ideas :D

If experienced folks are willing to help I think the best result would definately come from that. I definately agree about getting out of focus. I have issues with that. It's one of the main reasons I started flying Helis, the Heli demands my total attention and is a jealous mistress :D .

I'm currently looking for a larger area to do FF and basic circuits. I'm still doing basic hovers at all orientations. I'll be a few weeks since I still get shakey in wind. Today she was all over the place with the wind but I kept her in the yard and landed in once piece after 7 mins of gusty winds. Not sure how fast, the trees were moving pretty well during gusts. 6' to 37' then I'd end up flaring at 4' to not hit the ground..then stable back to 6'...heh...scary but fun, staying in about a 10' circle.

my AMA should be in this week I hope.
Jermo

[sleddog7]

That's the foundation we're lookin' for. You up for it Wayne???
Wayne says-->:FThat :lol:

[bbdln123]

I think if your videos included your mistakes(which happens to all of us) it could be very beneficial to others. The Old Salts around here have learned through trial and error and can get very set in their ways(for good reason). This hobby allows for a lot of interpretation and personality to go into your build and flying. I think a newbie is more likely to come up with something innovative than a veteran. A good example is that a lot of peoples heli's look the same and fly the same around here. There is a good reason for that but there are definetly exceptions that can be applied with the same results if not better. A different perspective should always be considered when doing anything worthwhile.

[MicroMan]

Maybe we should get some experienced hotshots to make a how-to video.
There's a tasking for all that free time You'll have at Birmingham Dan. :D
Be interesting to see what advice you can get from the 'pro's' in a 3 minute interview...

I agree, I nominate Bob "Finless" White. :)

[WayneBrown]

Ah... the left coasters want Bob, the east coasters will want HC, Clint, Harkey, Gordie.... ;)

[bbdln123]

Ah... the left coasters want Bob, the east coasters will want HC, Clint, Harkey, Gordie.... ;)

What about us middle coasters.

[BravoSlicker]

Ah... the left coasters want Bob, the east coasters will want HC, Clint, Harkey, Gordie.... ;)

You mean the 'right' coasters? :mrgreen: