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Emil
03-07-2007, 02:06 PM
I have a quite new 14MZ, and experiencing problems with the transmitter.
When I fly my Stratus, the model is suddenly drifting and changing altitude, and it feels almost the same as the signals is to slow, or
loosing signal in small moments. The problem occurs with any kind of receiver both G3 and G2 (R149DP).
I have also tried 3-4 different receivers on the same model, but still same problems.
I have tried a 9CSuper on the same receiver (R149DP) and no problems with another transmitter, so I am sure the
problem is in the transmitter.

Is there any new firmware to download, or do I have to send the radio for repair. ?
Windows ver. CE 4,20 (0)
Editor ver. 1.0.6
Encoder ver. 1.13

Anyone had same problem ?

Hirobofly
03-07-2007, 02:15 PM
Hi there.
I think at least you should update your radio to the latest firmware-version. You have a pretty old version there......

You may find the update in Futaba Flyers Club, from Robbe or from RCFan:
http://www.rcfan.com/radios.html

Good luck.

:)RJ

Emil
03-07-2007, 02:19 PM
Thks :-)

torkboy
03-07-2007, 08:39 PM
How do you update it? Through the card?

Hirobofly
03-08-2007, 04:36 AM
Hi there.
Yes, the update is done by copying the new files/folders into the memorycard, set the switch in the 14MZ to Update and turn on power.

When done, remember to set the switch back to normal.
(Note: a description of the complete procedure is normally included in the attached documents to each release)

Good luck.

:)RJ

Nicoleto
03-08-2007, 03:08 PM
Hopefully your issues will be resolved with a firmware upgrade. However I had a 9C with the same problem and the only solution I found was to change the TX module for a new one.

Emil
03-08-2007, 05:16 PM
I tried the new firmware, and tried to fly today, but it seems like the same shit is happening. I think I`ll order new TX module if no one have another suggestion. :-|

DavidH
03-08-2007, 05:25 PM
I doubt the upgrade would have anything to do with how the transmitters is modulated. Sounds like there is a problem with module or the reciever.
Since you have eliminated the RX as being the problem. I would send the transmitter to a service center to be checked out.

David

Emil
03-08-2007, 05:31 PM
Yes, it could be the salvation of the problem. but I`ll try the module first.
I`ll let you know the result when i have tried the new one.

Emil
04-07-2007, 02:37 PM
The module was the problem. I got a new one, and no more problems. :-)

raptor903dman
04-10-2007, 06:51 PM
Hi Emil.I am wondering how is your radio now.I have the same problem.just lost a 33% airframe over it. Only good thing was it wasnt my raptor that enden up in pieces.Have a major confidence issue now with this radio :(

nutty_24
04-20-2007, 12:22 AM
I crasheh my heli almost 10X because of this problem. The transmitter will suddenly stop transmitting and back on. The FUTABA light will change from green to red and vice versa. If I give the module a nudge, the same thing will happen. I will send it to Futaba as soon as I got the chance.

DavidH
04-20-2007, 06:30 AM
Would not take me 10 crashes to send in a radio for checkup if I thought it had a problem.

David

Learn to Fly
04-26-2007, 08:53 PM
Hi,

I just sent in my 14mz to Futaba. I am so mad now that I know most of my crashes this year are not my fault. I claim the blame for 2 crashes out of 10 last year.

Now I am getting better at my skills, as time goes by, right? So I think I have a good hold of it now. Well while flying the other day I got the same inputs on two helis and both resulted in a crash. Now I dont crash doing a simple flip, or coming in to land tail in...but I did. My buddy pointed it out to me that it was the exact same crash each time, and now to think about it a bit more I have over corrected this a few times now, just thinking it was the wind or me loading the head. My tail gives out(I use 611s?!) and then the heli goes to right aileron and then crazy. I can hit throttle hold so I know its not lockout. It happens on multiple helis too.

I now have sent my radio in for repairs to Futaba, its on the table now, they tell me two days!!! :noteworthy I hope so, its nice out there now.

I will point this out to them about the module.? :arggg: I take great care of everything I own.

Jeff

RCfan
04-27-2007, 08:38 AM
If you're crashes seem to have the same m.o., then the problem lies somewhere else, most likely a setup issue on the heli. If I had to bet on it, I'd say it's all caused by how you're routing the Rx antenna (assuming you had a radio drop-out) otherwise it's a component interference issue. Try re-routing the antenna as far away from all moving, metal and carbon parts as possible. Make sure no part of the antenna is touching the frame; isolate areas close to heli with fuel tubing or similar. Make sure you're gyro sensor and control are as far as possible to the Rx. Perhaps also look at replacing all the bearings on your heli as most overlook those after crashes and can be a source of huge electrical interference if they've gone bad.

As David posted to nutty, it shouldn't have taken you 10 crashes to do something about it.

Learn to Fly
04-27-2007, 06:02 PM
Sure!!!!!!!! but when you are "green" as I was last year!! and I mostly fly by myself. Was I supposed to figure out everything all that quick? I did figure it out at least. :wink: My set up skills are top notch, and I was given the thumbs up by Todd Bennett in class so I think Im alright. :D My issue is a radio problem, its on the table now as we speak. I did not destroy 10 helis either!! Yikes I only trashed 3 sets of blades out of my 10!! I replace everything thats needed, Im anal. I keep all my stuff in top notch shape...but thanks for your concern. :glasses2: I will for sure let you know what they say. :glasses2:

Jeff

RCfan
04-27-2007, 06:36 PM
You may be meticulous when it comes to building and setting-up a heli, but you cannot determine if there's an interference problem by visual inspection. Bad bearing interference is particularly nasty to detect (which is why it's always better to replace with new bearings)! It's easy to blame it on the radio, go ahead, send it in... they'll probably swap-out the MOBO as it's cheaper for support to do that than t-shoot a "possible" problem. You'll feel better because you'll think they found and corrected the problem, but if you crash again in similar fashion (hopefully not), what will you blame it on then?

Tell us this, since you vehemently claim that your issue is a "radio problem" ... What devices or technology did you employ to reach that conclusion? How did you test it? Can you reproduce it every time? What radio component is bad/broken? How do you know it wasn't the Rx? Or a servo with a loose wire? :arggg:

Learn to Fly
04-28-2007, 07:17 AM
Because it happens the SAME way on a BRAND NEW helicopter with BRAND NEW equipment. I can take pictures if need be, but I dont see why. I replace bearings when I do crash just to be sure(they only cost a few bucks anyway!!)

YES the same input happens each time, causing the helicopter'S to go out of control. Happens on G3PCM, 1024PCM, and PPM. It flips on its side the piros to death. My buddy said he had a problem with his pots sticking?

I have flown my good buddies heli OVER AND OVER!!! It aint me. I cant get his heli to do what mine does.

How do I know its not a loose wire? or bad rx? Cause I look over everything before I fly...I did say I was anal right? Send in my Rxs after a bad crash to get checked...what the F else can I do? :dontknow Sorry I did not finish Electronics so I can not test. :roll: MOBO? you lost me there. :D

If it aint fixed when I get it back...SPEKTRUM!!! Easy enough.

Jeff

Learn to Fly
04-28-2007, 11:49 AM
I do get the BLUE SCREEN of death every so often too, locking my radio on the "on" position. I have to take the battery out to clear it.

Jeff

RCfan
04-28-2007, 12:11 PM
I do get the BLUE SCREEN of death every so often too, locking my radio on the "on" position. I have to take the battery out to clear it.

LOL. First of all, there's no such thing as BSoD on these radios -- they don't run the same version of Windows that runs on your PC! If what you're referring to is that the radio doesn't boot up properly, remaining in the power-up blue background, then the radio definitely has a problem. If it did it once and you've flown since then and crashed, then perhaps you're not really as anal as you consider yourself to be, and blaming the crashes on the radio is simply ridiculous! :arggg: :WOW

None of my radios have ever locked-up that way during normal operation. Even after many attempted hacking sessions, they still run like they did on day 1.

Learn to Fly
04-28-2007, 01:55 PM
This is what I hate about some. You say you never had a problem. GREAT!! I DO!! SIMPLE AS THAT!! And Im glad everything is peachy keen down if sunny Fla!!

The blue screen happened the first time I turned on the radio at the hobby shop!!! I figured it was a windows thing, I hate windows and Microsoft(as I type away at my Mac :mrgreen: ) It has done it a few times now, so I sent it in, what dont you get? Ive only had the radio 8 months now, most of it is winter months!! I also thought at first that it was a skill issue, as I have only been flying for 1 1/2 years...but its not. But your dead nuts set that it is. Do you know me by any chance? How do you know its NOT the radio?

Im done with this, I could care less now. I was just seeing if any had the same issue. C-YA!!

RCfan
04-28-2007, 07:57 PM
This is what I hate about some. You say you never had a problem. GREAT!! I DO!! SIMPLE AS THAT!! And Im glad everything is peachy keen down if sunny Fla!!
Yes, you do have a problem, and the sooner you realize that the problem was you, the better off you'll be!
The blue screen happened the first time I turned on the radio at the hobby shop!!! I figured it was a windows thing, I hate windows and Microsoft(as I type away at my Mac Mr. Green ) It has done it a few times now, so I sent it in, what dont you get? Ive only had the radio 8 months now, most of it is winter months!! I also thought at first that it was a skill issue, as I have only been flying for 1 1/2 years...but its not. But your dead nuts set that it is. Do you know me by any chance? How do you know its NOT the radio?
My point has never been regarding your skills (as a pilot or builder), I was simply trying to make you see that there are a dozen other reasons for problems like you seem to have. However, when you came out with the radio boot-up problems, and still flew the radio ... you lost all credibility. Worse yet, now you say it happened the first time you powered it up ... YOU SHOULD HAVE RETURNED IT RIGHT THERE AND THEN! But you still flew and now you think you can blame it on the radio ... :badair:

Im done with this, I could care less now. I was just seeing if any had the same issue. C-YA!!
Best of luck.