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F1Atom
03-07-2007, 04:47 PM
I was wondering if anyone here is using the 8tooth motor, flat bottom blades and Lipo with the "superskids" from helidirect? If so, is it able to fly well or not? Is it stable in flight or will not even get off the ground?

Last time tried it I was using the stock NiMH battery and if killed the batt. Will it do the same with the Lipo. Will cause it to work harder than usual due to the extra weight?

Thank You!

Rebuild
03-07-2007, 08:03 PM
That should fly fine with a lipo. One of the guys around here refers to the NiMH batteries as "Blue Anchors". To that, I totally agree! You save weight and add power going lipo. Super skids and 8 tooth with flats? Yeah, that will work.

Stealthpilot
03-08-2007, 10:00 AM
Check this out, Im flying a CP upgraded to CPP status, superskids CF blades 10 tooth motor and a TP 1320 lipo pack. Flys great, I love the extra headspeed! Im suprised I dont smoke the motor or the 4 in 1 unit?? Im running double heatsinks on the main motor and tail motor, funny thing is, Ive NEVER replaced a tail motor yet!! :WOW (knock on wood) been flying it over a year now. I must of gotten one of the freakishly good ones from the factory. :dontknow

Buzzkill
03-08-2007, 11:32 AM
Holy crap the same tail motor for a year? I have been through 8 in two months not to mention 4 of the GWS DD tail mod motors. I'm upgrading to a BL tail motor this weekend. Congratulations on the tail motor!!! When it does die (not to jinx it) I'll pitch in to have it bronzed :noteworthy

F1Atom
03-08-2007, 03:48 PM
Thanks for the info. I'll be changing the landing gear soon. One More thing, would this setup work with sym blades on the 8T motor, skids and all. Its pretty windy in my area right now and I can't really fly too well in the wind yet. Or will the extra weight keep it stable in the wind.

To Stealthpilot: Having double heat sinks is a great Idea. I have it on my Tail motor right now and it doesn't even get hot anymore. I would like to put another on the main motor but it would be too close to the 4-1 and if I turn it around it won't fit properly. How did you fit yours?

Stealthpilot
03-09-2007, 02:44 PM
I moved my 4-1 foward on the mount about .3" with a foam spacer and some servo tape. Then I used some thermal paste and doubled up the heatsinks on both the main and tail motors. I should mention I dont really fly my CP all that hard. I mostly hover with some mild FF. With the TP1320 pack and the superskids, Im a little nervous to flip her inverted. I do with my TRex 450 SE. :smokin:

F1Atom
03-09-2007, 03:47 PM
Thank you for the idea, I was actually thinking about doing that myself but wasn't so sure. But after I made that last post I figured out how to make my own heat sink with some alumminum tape and pieces of an alumminum can. So far it works but I need to do some more testing. I'll let you guys know if it works it may save us all some money. I'll post some pics if it works.

Mortificate
03-10-2007, 02:44 AM
I was using the 8T, with FB blades, SuperSkids, and MicroHeli twin motor tail mount with the 800mAh Li-Po battery and it hovers just fine. I don't do any advanced flying so I am not sure how the set up would handle that. I just changed to brushless 8T, with sym carbon blades. I hope all goes well. :wink:

F1Atom
03-10-2007, 12:23 PM
To Mortificate: Let me know how the 8T and sym blades goes.

mrasmm
03-14-2007, 06:54 AM
I don't know if this helps you, or at what stage you are flying, but I am just learning hovering. I've had my bade about 2 weeks. I am using the heavier JCS flat bottom plasti-blades and the superskids on a stock 9T motor. I have 2 heatsinks on both the main and the tail motors. The main motor does get quite warm (probably about 140 F) if I hover the whole pack without touching down and with the canopy on. Without the canopy, I bet it doesn't reach 105 F. I need to cut an air-vent in the canopy for flow over the main. Also if I switched to a 8T that would probably take off the load. Also I am about 5k elevation, so the air is thinner up here, so I think you should be fine, especially with 2 heatsinks =)

It seems to get light on the skids around 1/2 throttle, and is in the air somewhere around 3/4. It does seem a little heavy, but it will definately work alright for hovering, and probably some relaxed ff.

Hope this helps,
mrasmm

BTW stock blades are about 10-11g each and the jcs blades are about 17 to 18g each

Mortificate
03-14-2007, 07:57 PM
To Mortificate: Let me know how the 8T and sym blades goes.
Really well actually. I have actually been hovering it around with the blades totally out of allignment, and my main shaft is a little bent and it hovers well enough to play around with it in my living room. I have the MH main gear w/ auto rotation and main shaft on it's way. Once it get that I will trim everything up get a taste of how well it really handles. I am curious to see the differance between 8 and 9 tooth Pinion.

F1Atom
03-15-2007, 01:44 PM
Thanks!

Which carbon Sym blades are you using Eflites or someone else?

I was thinking about getting the carbon sym blade from helidirect for 22 bucks. But it looks like they are much thinner. It might not have enough area to get lift off.

Mortificate
03-18-2007, 04:55 AM
Thanks!

Which carbon Sym blades are you using Eflites or someone else?

I was thinking about getting the carbon sym blade from helidirect for 22 bucks. But it looks like they are much thinner. It might not have enough area to get lift off.

I am using the Eflight blades. I have seen pics that people have posted with other carbon blades that are thinner. I am kinda curious to know how they compare. Maybe I'll pick some up and try em out.
I keep debating on adding the MH CNC head, but I hear they can be a pain to set up and I already have a lot of weight on this Heli.

Stealthpilot
03-18-2007, 05:28 AM
Im also running the E-flite carbon blades. I would like to get some of the Helidirect carbon blades too, they are thinner but I think there also a bit longer than the E-flite carbon blades. Hell, my E-flite carbon blades are wider that my TRex blades! LOL.

Mortificate
03-18-2007, 03:04 PM
Im also running the E-flite carbon blades. I would like to get some of the Helidirect carbon blades too, they are thinner but I think there also a bit longer than the E-flite carbon blades. Hell, my E-flite carbon blades are wider that my TRex blades! LOL.

Yeah they are REALLY wide arn't they! I am kinda noobish but do the longer blades create a more stable bird? Dang-it man! Why have you resparked my interest in more CCP aftermarket products?!?! LOL. Just when I though I was finished upgrading this thing. hahaha, oh well it's only $22. Give me the site of the blades you are looking at. I'll order em and try em out. :arggg:

Stealthpilot
03-18-2007, 04:33 PM
Tell me about it, Im in Iraq right now and brought my upgraded Blade CP to play with over here and left the 450 SE at home. So Ive been flying and upgrading the CP more than I should, LOL. I should go into heli sales over here, so far Ive helped people with getting a CX2, Lama V3, CPP, and a TRex 450s LOL. Here is the link:

http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=30_65&products_id=2142

Mortificate
03-18-2007, 05:38 PM
Thanks for the link. I'll pick those up for sure. I wounder what size pinion will work bast with those sym. I am running an 8t on my BL right now. What do you think?

F1Atom
03-18-2007, 11:20 PM
Let me know how those carbon sym and thin blades goes. If it works out ok I might get them. They are a lot cheaper than Eflites blades.

Mortificate
03-27-2007, 02:02 AM
Let me know how those carbon sym and thin blades goes. If it works out ok I might get them. They are a lot cheaper than Eflites blades.
Just placed the order for those new sym blades. As soon as they arrive I'll slap those muthas on and let ya'll know how they stand up to the eflight carbon sym.

F1Atom
03-28-2007, 02:14 AM
Sweet...let me know how it goes with the carbon sym blades.

Mortificate
03-29-2007, 10:41 PM
well I got the new blades today and hovered around my living room with no problems at all. The lift and decent seems much smoother. Sense I am a total noob to helis I am unable to test how the new blades are in aggressive flight. For those of ya'll that are just hovering and doing simple stuff these blades are (at worst) just as good as the Eflight carbons, but at a reduced price.

Mortificate
03-31-2007, 09:13 PM
ok, I tested out the new Carbon Sym blades again today with much better results. They are actually really nice. I think the first test flight I did was with a battery that wasn't fully charged. I really like the way my heli flies now. Very stable.
I took my CPP to work with me today and flew it around the new Symantec building we are working on (much more space than my apartment). I have a lot of time hovering my CPP but VERY little time spent on FF. Today with the new blades it was very easy to fly around columns and other obsticles. Yeah I know not impressive for most but pretty good for me. I have recently added the Autorotation hub and new main gear but I doubt that had much to do with the improved performance.
bla bla bla. LOL. They are good blades. Give em a try for sure. I am curious if everyone else will have the same results.

F1Atom
04-01-2007, 01:35 AM
Sounds like the blades are really nice. I might give them a try in the future. Thanks for the review. At least we know now that they definitely worth the price.

We now know how they are in flight but what about in a crash/after crash.
Please do not crash on purpose, please don't! But if you do let us know.
I hope the blades break before anything else does. :wink:

Mortificate
04-01-2007, 11:41 AM
Hahahaha, funny that you would mention that cause the first time I took them for a spin I was flying around the living room and got a little over confident and lost control a little. LOL. The blades smacked into my ceiling than when I brought it down a little sideways they smacked into my case (plastic) that I keep all my CPP tools and parts in, shattering one of the plastic clasps that lock it closed. My CPP also suffered a bent main shaft...yes my new one from MH and a busted blade grip. Yeah it sucked a little, BUT, the new CF blades are left with out a scratch. The ends may be a little scuffed at VERY close inspection, but I'm not sure. They look fine to me. So there is your crash report. Hey! I just wanted to give you guys a Thurough review. :glasses2:

Even with woodies I would have droped $17 (after tax), instead I spent $9 on some new blade grips and just streightened my main shaft. Now I have a spare blade grip too.