Here is my mcpx brushless conversion with pics ,still video and flight video

[brianp6621]

Thanks! where are you planning to get the HP05 from?
In my post, from chinesejade. http://www.chinesejade.com/walkera43BLMotorEsc.htm

[Dre414]

I just ordered the HP05 from chinesejade (seems to be in stock) and the 8T 1.5mm pinion from KKPMO. I got my XP7A from WOW hobbies originally.

I'm moving from the C05M to the HP05

Thanks! Lol how do you guys find these sites?

I just checked and saw an HP05S, is that the same as HP05?

[Dre414]

Sorry Brian also new to posting on this site.. took a look I assume the HP05 and the S are one and the same. Thanks again!

[brianp6621]

Quite a few people on here have used/ordered from chinesejade so they are a vetted vendor.

[dbennettya]

Both my HP05S motors came from Clubheli and they clock in about 13,000kv and run really nice.

Good Luck, Don

[RCTada]

I sent my MCPX to tntburnett and he is hooking me up with all the goodies. I will post pics up when I get it back and with detailed pics and videos. I figure this will be my best learning tool and investment before I do it on my big baby Trex 700 LE. I thank you Isaac for his kind heart and willing to help a guy out like me. I saw his MCPX and when I got a brand new stock it just didnt do what his can do so I am excited! I saw his fly in person and it is amazing. Thank you in advance tntbunett/Isaac! Heli should be there today since were only an hour and a half from each other. :)

[Goatkeeper]

I sent my MCPX to tntburnett and he is hooking me up with all the goodies. I will post pics up when I get it back and with detailed pics and videos. I figure this will be my best learning tool and investment before I do it on my big baby Trex 700 LE. I thank you Isaac for his kind heart and willing to help a guy out like me. I saw his MCPX and when I got a brand new stock it just didnt do what his can do so I am excited! I saw his fly in person and it is amazing. Thank you in advance tntbunett/Isaac! Heli should be there today since were only an hour and a half from each other. :)

TNT is the man. I would trust him with my heli any day.

[Mindance]

Yeah he did my brushless setup also. Love the shi*& out of mine.
And he follows up with me at least twice a week to see how its doing.
Best customer service I have had and he isn't even a shop. lol

[-kenny-]

hey guys,
since wowhobbies is not responding to my emails (would be cool to order everything from the same site) I think I will go with this setup. (helimax novus cp)

How is the power of this motor? does it bog down? Also, what is the shaft diameter for the pinion?
Is the throttle response good without soldering an extra resistor?

Sorry for all the questions :D

[tntburnett]

hey guys,
since wowhobbies is not responding to my emails (would be cool to order everything from the same site) I think I will go with this setup. (helimax novus cp)

How is the power of this motor? does it bog down? Also, what is the shaft diameter for the pinion?
Is the throttle response good without soldering an extra resistor?

Sorry for all the questions :D

It fine. It is a 11,000 kv motor it has great power and I haven't had any issue with bogging. If you are going to order from wowhobbies get the thesteve converter from there it already have the resistor built in. Shaft is 1.5

Have a blessed week

Sent from my DROIDX

[chopper.uk]

ive ordered all my stuff to go bl whats with the resistor do i need to get one and solder it in ?

[-kenny-]

I think i'm going to go with the hp05s from chinesejade because there's no communication with wowhobbies.. If i get thesteve from steve himself, what do i have to do with it? Or will it work fine?

[whaleboy]

I think i'm going to go with the hp05s from chinesejade because there's no communication with wowhobbies.. If i get thesteve from steve himself, what do i have to do with it? Or will it work fine?

When I emailed them (through the contact link on their site) it took several days for them to answer. However, when I called on the phone, they were very helpful. Unfortunately, being in Belgium, calling may not be an option for you...

-David

[brianp6621]

ive ordered all my stuff to go bl whats with the resistor do i need to get one and solder it in ?

I think i'm going to go with the hp05s from chinesejade because there's no communication with wowhobbies.. If i get thesteve from steve himself, what do i have to do with it? Or will it work fine?

It depends on how you want to do it. The BEST (but more difficult way) is to use the original (non-mcpx) thesteve and solder the yellow thesteve wire to the very tiny resistor point. (you can not do this with the mCPX version of thesteve without modding it to remove a built in resistor) This gives you the max possible throttle response with certain ESC/motor combinations.

If you can't do this, then you need to either use the original thesteve and connect a 2.2kohm resistor between the motor terminals and connect the yellow wire to the + motor terminal, OR use the mCPX thesteve (with builtin resistor) and connect the yellow wire to the + motor terminal. This will in some cases significantly limit your motor throttle response/resolution.

[JAM3X]

It fine. It is a 11,000 kv motor it has great power and I haven't had any issue with bogging. If you are going to order from wowhobbies get the thesteve converter from there it already have the resistor built in. Shaft is 1.5

Have a blessed week

Sent from my DROIDX
With the gws pinion that you used, did you have to enlongate or make coustom motor mounting holes? or did the pinion just mesh, with the novus cp brushless screwed into the stock holes on the frame? What I am asking is with your gws pinion were you able mount the motor with the stock frame holes, or did you have to modify to make it mesh correctly?

[dizzymarkus]

Wheres everyone getting the KBDD main blades?

-- thanks alot,
Markus

[tntburnett]

With the gws pinion that you used, did you have to enlongate or make coustom motor mounting holes? or did the pinion just mesh, with the novus cp brushless screwed into the stock holes on the frame? What I am asking is with your gws pinion were you able mount the motor with the stock frame holes, or did you have to modify to make it mesh correctly?

It meshed fine. All I done was cut tgw flat part off of the frame where the old motor along with the brace

Have a blessed week
Isaac

Sent from my DROIDX

[RedOctobyr]

So I finally joined the BL club today :) I've learned so much from everyone's shared info that I had to post some of my own.

Setup:
HP05S
XP-7A
thesteve (the normal one)
8T pinion (broke)
9T GWS pinion (worked)

First off, if some of you folks can do this quickly, that's awesome. It took me a while to get everything done properly. But it seems worth it so far!

I soldered thesteve's yellow wire to the resistor on the 3-in-1. Used a 0.5mm (0.020") radius tip and a magnifier. Laying the wire flat, flush with the board, finally helped a lot.

Direct-soldered the ESC to the 3-in-1's battery terminals, did thesteve the same way.

I had drilled out a stock 8T pinion to 1.5mm on a lathe, so I was able to keep the hole very well centered. Even with that, it had barely any metal left. I slid it onto the shaft, CA'd it in place, and let it dry. When I tried it, it lasted about 10 seconds, then broke. So I used my 9T GWS pinion. That was a nice snug press fit onto the shaft. Very carefully pressed it on with my vise, did not use any CA.

I found the motor mesh to be fine with the 8T pinion. But with 9T, I could not even install the motor. Opened the holes to 1.5mm, and that helped. I may open them just a bit more, since I still don't have a gap, even after a few batteries.

I'm sure I have too much heatshrink, excess wire, etc. I don't have a scale yet, but it doesn't feel like it lost weight, anyways. I did use some 1mm CF to reinforce the front canopy pins, with thread & CA holding it to the pins. I know the tape in the picture looks stupid. I wanted to add some insulation to the motor wires, and hold thesteve to the ESC. And it was too late to add heatshrink :)

For the tail, I used a stock motor & blade. But I cut an extra-extended 7" (178mm) tail boom. Unsoldered the stock tail wires, and replaced them with 26AWG, 120SR-sized wires, which I soldered directly to the board (I left the tail plug in place on the board, in case I want it later). Little bits of heatshrink hold the wires to the boom.

I did not change any XP7A programming. Just set the throttle max and min. I get great throttle resolution through the whole range, as others observed. I did put a solder connection halfway through the ESC V+ wire, so I can remove & reconnect it, without having to solder to either board.

The headspeed is alarming/impressive :wow2: Wow. Tried 80% max throttle initially, 60% pitch. Upped the pitch to 70%. In Normal mode, I was getting a fair bit of tail wag when making collective changes. I ended up raising my IU throttle to 100-100-90-100-100. Oddly, I found the tail holds very well in IU. But it still wags/lags in Normal. My current theory is that raising the collective loads the motor with pitch, as well as trying to accelerate. That starves the tail. Maybe?

I can pitch pump in IU, 100% throttle, and the tail holds fine. I got some blowout when I applied too much cyclic (100% DR) & collective. And twice on 1 particular battery, maybe that one's weak. So I think my tail is actually pretty good, for being free and fairly straightforward. It's not perfect, but it will certainly do for now. I was able to recover from the TBO each time, it never spun. May try a different tail rotor. Or eventually dual coreless, etc. And I think I'd like to try an 8T pinion.

But, it flies awesome :thumbup: The headspeed is pretty wild. I only got to fly a handful of batteries today, with the weather coming. I did observe that the Nanotech 300's got very warm, the hottest I've felt so far. Started with a 4:00 timer, then hit ESC LVC once, so took it down to 3:00, landing by 3:30. I will try the Hyperion 320's, once I solder on connectors.

[dna001]

Hi
You could try a bit shorter tail I think that one is a tad to long, that should stop some of the tail wag.


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[WowHobbies]

hey guys,
since wowhobbies is not responding to my emails (would be cool to order everything from the same site) I think I will go with this setup. (helimax novus cp)

How is the power of this motor? does it bog down? Also, what is the shaft diameter for the pinion?
Is the throttle response good without soldering an extra resistor?

Sorry for all the questions :D

Due to the massive amount of our incoming emails, spam filter isn't going to work perfectly. Please use Contact Us at the www.wowhobbies.com (http://www.wowhobbies.com) website for quickest response. Emails are replied within 2 business days, not including weekends, there is no exception. There are 3 persons answering emails at Wow, so we have an internal email distribution system that will address the type of service needed. All in all, you will always get a response, if not check your email filter, use your secondary email box just in case or you can call if you are located in the USA.

Jonathan
WowHobbies.com

[WowHobbies]

Watch this video below and you will know why the CO5 brushless kit makes the best indoor MCPX brushless heli. The motor power mix is just right for indoor in comparison to the best outdoor performer using the HP05 kit. HP05 has better climb out outdoor than the CO5 but it is a bit too much for indoor IMO. We carry both types of kit, so this is no bias opinion. If you can't decide which way to go CO5 or HP05, may be this will help, choose the right motor for the right job or get both if your budget allows, LOL.

The upgraded MCPX in this video below is equipped with this exact CO5 kit. http://www.wowhobbies.com/thesteveblsinglechannelconverter-3-1.aspx (http://www.wowhobbies.com/thesteveblsinglechannelconverter-3-1.aspx)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThoFf9MXciw

Jonathan
WowHobbies.com

[s0laris]

those wow hobby conversion kits seem pricey.
does that replace the board with the current mcpx ? if so then it seems reasonable

[WowHobbies]

those wow hobby conversion kits seem pricey.
does that replace the board with the current mcpx ? if so then it seems reasonable

There are 2 ways to do this and we offer them both.
1. Cheaper way. You can build it yourself and we have the cheap components XP-7A (not XP-7A-3)-Buy it and program the ESC, the Steve standard-add resistor, tail assembly-buy carbon tube and cut it and key it so it doesn't twist then solder the motor, buy motor-install pinion. If you are a builder and have some experience, go for this less expensive way, if not go for the next option.

2. More expansive way. Buy the fully build and tested kit. Unfortunately, the volume isn't enough to integrete them in China so you are paying more for USA labor but it will be all done for you.

Jonathan
www.WowHobbies.com (http://www.WowHobbies.com)

[s0laris]

buying it from the places the OP suggested costs $55 total including the msr tail.

Was just curious.. I will go with the OP suggested setup. Thanks for the reply

[RedOctobyr]

Got to put some more time on my BL setup tonight. It's pretty awesome :) I do find that I can bog the blades if I try to do, say, a few flips in a row. Maybe the 9T pinion is too much for a consistent headspeed, maybe I need to try 8T.

However, I do want to give an update on my extra-extended tail. It held great tonight. Pitch pumps at 100% throttle in IU were fine, nice and steady. Even climbing high, going to full negative, plummeting & building speed, then full positive, held without trouble. Using 70% Pitch Travel Adjust. I think the wag I saw before was because the throttle % was also changing, in Normal. IU 100% throttle should be more of a worst-case, and it holds great in that.

I did get two tail swings during my flights, and I did get it to actually spin once (got too aggressive, too much at once), but I was able to recover each time. I'm not saying this is the perfect solution by any means, but it's working better than I expected. And, after 9 batteries back-to-back, the tail motor was only warm. Not even close to hot. That surprised me.

I am loathe to crash it, so it was largely FFF, circuits, flips, etc. I can't do impressive stuff.