Gohbee vs. Raptor

[Mike Fortin]

Differences ...Gohbee 50 vs. Raptor 50?

[Hotshot Charlie]

Well Mike,

I am waiting to get a Gohbee 50, so I can't really answer your question other than to speculate, but I believe the biggest diff will be in the head. I also think the Gohbee frame is stonger (my 30 is beefed up). Other than that, I can't tell you much more.

Ray Stacy has a 50 flying or about ready to fly, he will probably be able to help you out more with your questions. My 30 is now ready to fly, I just need some good weather and time to fly it. After that, I will be able to tell you more about it.

[Warthog3]

I am a bit mystifyed as to how you can you can be a Gohbee rep and not be able to answer any questions???? I have been looking for a 50 size for awhile now and am trying to decide between r50, century raven and Audacity tiger. Don't get me wrong here I am leaning towards the Gohbee but so far it seems nobody including reps is giving any info...ie what about parts support???

Cheers,

[Hotshot Charlie]

Hi warthog,

Name here is Rob, at that time I couldn't answer any questions about the Gohbee 50 vs the Raptor 50...... mainly because all I had was the Gohbee 30. The 50 was only released to us around the first of December 2004, except for the model that Ray Stacy was testing for an AMA review.

I now have a Gohbee 50 and can answer most any question you have.

Fire away !

First I might say, the Stinger 50 is one of the smoothest flying heli's in it's class out there. First class head. The frame is heavier duty than the R50 and the parts cost for repairs are a good bit cheaper. The Stinger (Gohbee) 50 is a great choice for a first or second heli. There is plenty of support from David Ellison and the folks at Gohbee plus we now have a large network of field reps out here.

You won't find a better company to deal with than David at Gohbee. If you need any help, don't hesitate to PM me or ask here on Helifreak.

BTW, if you decide to buy a Stinger, use one of our field rep numbers on the on-line ordering form and receive an addtional 7% off your purchase. This really brings the cost of the Gohbee down !!! (Also the MAH blades are very nice that you can get with the package)

Just whistle, someone will answer your questions. You are also welcome to check out www.rotorrave.com , this is the Gohbee forum site.

[Warthog3]

Thanks Rob, I did notice that the post was quite old, was hoping to see more info posted. I did go ahead and purchase the Stinger 50 and a hyper 50 to put in it. I currently have a Hawk 30 and recently bought the hawk 30 pro, since I am still fairly new I didn't want to get stuck in the rut of only buying one brand. So hopefully the 50 is everything it looks like it is. One question I have is why is the Stinger not eCCPM? :shock:

Cheers,
Warren

[Hotshot Charlie]

Hy Warren,

Well the design is set up for manual ccpm instead of eccpm. It may be something that comes out in the future, not sure.

I think you will find that the manual ccpm will work very favorably. If set up correctly, I am not sure most pilots could not tell much difference between a heli with a eccpm conversion vs. a heli with a manual ccpm setup.

There are eccpm conversions for the Raptor that will also fit the Stinger, if you are so inclined to want eccpm. The Stinger design works well, you will like it. It is a smooth flyer.

Let me know if I can be of more help.

[Warthog3]

I was under the impression that eCCPM would reduce the parts count due to not having to mechanically mix, so along with less parts comes less weight and cost..
I'm sure it does fly well, my Hawk 30 flew great (notice the past tense) :arggg: it was mechanical mixing as well.
Thanks Rob,
Warren

[Hotshot Charlie]

I was under the impression that eCCPM would reduce the parts count due to not having to mechanically mix, so along with less parts comes less weight and cost..


This is true Warren, but I really don't think that novice to intermediate flyers will ever know the difference between the two setups when flying the model.

On the cost issue, I haven't seen an eccpm bird cost any less than a ccpm bird. Plus, in all the crashes that I have had, I have never torn up a part that was connected to the ccpm mixing. On the eccpm side, you can just about count on replacing gears in servos when you have a crash using eccpm.

Just some food for thought. I have a JR Venture eccpm that I haven't flown yet, when (and if) I set it up, I can probably give you much more info on ccpm vs. eccpm. It will be a very cost comparative assesment of ccpm vs. eccpm in the same price range kit.

[Hotshot Charlie]

Let me add to this.....

I am refering to ccpm as the manual/mechanical ccpm mix that Raptors, Hawk Sports and Gohbees use.

The eccpm that I refer to is the 3 servo, 120 degree, collective/cyclic setup that can be found on many other heli's.

I may have confused some folks on using the ccpm as the mechanical, one servo per surface control system.

[flyinfool]

Hi Warren,
Although the Stinger has the performance abilities to keep a pilot of any level happy, the low cost will attract a greater number of entry-level pilots.
While eCCPM does usually have a slightly lower parts count, it is much more difficult to set up properly by a beginner. Where mCCPM is tolerant of slight imperfections in the setup.
While most modern radios do have eCCPM mixing, all do not do it well.
As far as performance in the air, Alan Szabo Jr. is one of the top fliers in the world and flies mCCPM.
I own helies with both systems. In the air I cannot tell any difference.

I think that you will really like the Stinger

[Warthog3]

I agree with you guys, as I am just starting out I won't notice the diff hence the reason I decided to with the stinger instead of the tiger, although the price diff is negligible, I would rather spend time flying then trying to setup an eCCPM. Perhaps when I know how to fly more aggressively I will look into a more pricey top-a-da line model :mrgreen:
For now the stinger is a very well priced 50...

Cheers
Warren

[BAyres]

Is there any designated reps in the Las Vegas area? I have asked about Gohbee helis and everybody seems to have the same answer...what are they?
Last months article on the 50 was excellent and I hope to see some in local stores soon. Maybe Nice Twice Hobbies, they are simply excellent. look them up and get them going. I just showed them the ads in this months RcHeli, and maybe if you contacted them we could see some in a quality shop in town.

[flyinfool]

Gohbee is just starting to set up a dealer network.
There are so many good hobby shops out there that it would be faster if you had your LHS contact Gohbee.

There is/was a Gohbee field rep in your area, I will have to see if he is still around.

[rennster]

went to the gohbee website and there is nothing in stock :?

[flyinfool]

It is all on the boat coming from the factory right now.
It can take 6 weeks to make the trip.
There are some really slow boats out there.
The shipment is expected in early November.
There is still a good supply of spare parts available.
Parts are heavily stocked so that a crash does not ground anyone waiting for that slow boat from China.
The kits are just selling faster than what was ever anticipated. :)

I know that this does not help those wanting a kit now, but once the shipment is floating out in the middle of the Pacific Ocean somewhere, there is very little that can be done to expedite it.

[heliengineering]

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[WJackson]

Dave addresses issues w/ manufactoring discrepencies rather quickly imho.

[NismoSkyline17]

We just got some Stinger 90s in at the LHS I work at and they already have a new set of gears just incase the ones in the kit did not come from the new run. The Heli looks very sturdy and not just a cheap knock off of a Raptor 90.

[heliengineering]

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